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		By: Mike@nz		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike@nz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Apr 2016 08:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/bahahaha-acc-warns-brooke-van-velden-gutting-worksafe-will-cost-more-wheres-your-free-market-god-now-act/#comment-332229&quot;&gt;Sam&lt;/a&gt;.

It is interesting that this rant coincides with the application of the first benefit increase in NZ for 43 years....I&#039;m surprised you are so closed minded and blindly anti National that you see fit to complain about that. 

Everything you say will now be taken a lot less seriously.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/bahahaha-acc-warns-brooke-van-velden-gutting-worksafe-will-cost-more-wheres-your-free-market-god-now-act/#comment-332229">Sam</a>.</p>
<p>It is interesting that this rant coincides with the application of the first benefit increase in NZ for 43 years&#8230;.I&#8217;m surprised you are so closed minded and blindly anti National that you see fit to complain about that. </p>
<p>Everything you say will now be taken a lot less seriously.</p>
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		By: Mike@nz		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/why-we-are-obliged-to-see-beggars-on-our-streets/#comment-13994</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike@nz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Apr 2016 22:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/why-we-are-obliged-to-see-beggars-on-our-streets/#comment-13979&quot;&gt;Jono&lt;/a&gt;.

Sort of. It&#039;s actually &#039;look after yourself and your family first, then those around us.&#039; 

The conflict here is not whether the masses care about the beggars, they do. Its more about how much care the masses think the beggars deserve. The New Zealand working class already spend over 20% their income to (indirectly) provide a no-fault health and welfare system to NZ citizens. 

The NZ taxpayer does care. In fact, in some cases, eg. the 3rd generation state dependants, maybe they care too much]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/why-we-are-obliged-to-see-beggars-on-our-streets/#comment-13979">Jono</a>.</p>
<p>Sort of. It&#8217;s actually &#8216;look after yourself and your family first, then those around us.&#8217; </p>
<p>The conflict here is not whether the masses care about the beggars, they do. Its more about how much care the masses think the beggars deserve. The New Zealand working class already spend over 20% their income to (indirectly) provide a no-fault health and welfare system to NZ citizens. </p>
<p>The NZ taxpayer does care. In fact, in some cases, eg. the 3rd generation state dependants, maybe they care too much</p>
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		By: Mike@nz		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/why-we-are-obliged-to-see-beggars-on-our-streets/#comment-13993</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike@nz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Apr 2016 22:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/why-we-are-obliged-to-see-beggars-on-our-streets/#comment-13990&quot;&gt;Wensleydale&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, I agree. The free world thrives on the free exchange of goods and services. 

The real sharks are those who use compulsion and legislation to force payment with no promise or obligation for anything in exchange, such as regulators, tax collectors and almost all of the public service.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/why-we-are-obliged-to-see-beggars-on-our-streets/#comment-13990">Wensleydale</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, I agree. The free world thrives on the free exchange of goods and services. </p>
<p>The real sharks are those who use compulsion and legislation to force payment with no promise or obligation for anything in exchange, such as regulators, tax collectors and almost all of the public service.</p>
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		By: Mike@nz		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike@nz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Apr 2016 21:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/why-we-are-obliged-to-see-beggars-on-our-streets/#comment-13982&quot;&gt;muribaba&lt;/a&gt;.

And whose land will you confiscate to give 2 acres to all and sundry? Prey tell, Ms Mugabe!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/why-we-are-obliged-to-see-beggars-on-our-streets/#comment-13982">muribaba</a>.</p>
<p>And whose land will you confiscate to give 2 acres to all and sundry? Prey tell, Ms Mugabe!</p>
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		By: Tom Gardner		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/why-we-are-obliged-to-see-beggars-on-our-streets/#comment-13991</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Gardner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Apr 2016 05:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/why-we-are-obliged-to-see-beggars-on-our-streets/#comment-13971&quot;&gt;Rogaldo&lt;/a&gt;.

Beggar, from Oxford English Dictionary: A person, typically a homeless one, who lives by asking for money or food.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/why-we-are-obliged-to-see-beggars-on-our-streets/#comment-13971">Rogaldo</a>.</p>
<p>Beggar, from Oxford English Dictionary: A person, typically a homeless one, who lives by asking for money or food.</p>
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		By: Wensleydale		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/why-we-are-obliged-to-see-beggars-on-our-streets/#comment-13990</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wensleydale]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Apr 2016 05:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/why-we-are-obliged-to-see-beggars-on-our-streets/#comment-13986&quot;&gt;Rae&lt;/a&gt;.

The real thieves and brigands wear suits. The guys in rags waving placards are strictly small-time and/or genuinely desperate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/why-we-are-obliged-to-see-beggars-on-our-streets/#comment-13986">Rae</a>.</p>
<p>The real thieves and brigands wear suits. The guys in rags waving placards are strictly small-time and/or genuinely desperate.</p>
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		By: Lara		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/why-we-are-obliged-to-see-beggars-on-our-streets/#comment-13989</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lara]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2016 20:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/labour-greens-and-maori-party-have-to-aim-at-the-2020-voter-who-gave-jacinda-an-unprecedented-mmp-majority/#comment-332179&quot;&gt;covid is pa&lt;/a&gt;.

I am compassionate. 

I am not stupid Andrew.

That is an interesting assumption, your comment appears to assume I am stupid.

Judgement without all the facts is stupid.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/labour-greens-and-maori-party-have-to-aim-at-the-2020-voter-who-gave-jacinda-an-unprecedented-mmp-majority/#comment-332179">covid is pa</a>.</p>
<p>I am compassionate. </p>
<p>I am not stupid Andrew.</p>
<p>That is an interesting assumption, your comment appears to assume I am stupid.</p>
<p>Judgement without all the facts is stupid.</p>
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		By: Marcus		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/why-we-are-obliged-to-see-beggars-on-our-streets/#comment-13988</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marcus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2016 19:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Some people point out that beggars only go and spend their cash on alcohol, cigarettes or other drugs.
This is probably because they are addicted to them and the drug addiction services in this country are grossly underfunded.
Is it better that they beg or go into an shop with a weapon to rob it?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people point out that beggars only go and spend their cash on alcohol, cigarettes or other drugs.<br />
This is probably because they are addicted to them and the drug addiction services in this country are grossly underfunded.<br />
Is it better that they beg or go into an shop with a weapon to rob it?</p>
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		By: Rae		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/why-we-are-obliged-to-see-beggars-on-our-streets/#comment-13987</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rae]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2016 19:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/why-we-are-obliged-to-see-beggars-on-our-streets/#comment-13971&quot;&gt;Rogaldo&lt;/a&gt;.

Nicola Young? She of the plum in her mouth?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/why-we-are-obliged-to-see-beggars-on-our-streets/#comment-13971">Rogaldo</a>.</p>
<p>Nicola Young? She of the plum in her mouth?</p>
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		By: Rae		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/why-we-are-obliged-to-see-beggars-on-our-streets/#comment-13986</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rae]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2016 19:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/the-ramifications-of-netanyahus-war-crime-gamble-by-attacking-iran-the-5-things-we-know/#comment-332133&quot;&gt;stephen lennon&lt;/a&gt;.

In these neo-liberal days, maybe grifting is just as legitimate as any other, better dressed ways of parting people from their money.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/the-ramifications-of-netanyahus-war-crime-gamble-by-attacking-iran-the-5-things-we-know/#comment-332133">stephen lennon</a>.</p>
<p>In these neo-liberal days, maybe grifting is just as legitimate as any other, better dressed ways of parting people from their money.</p>
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