Imperial Russia the new socialist’ paradise?

From the Guardian:
Putin compares himself to Peter the Great in quest to take back Russian lands
This article is more than 3 years old
President draws parallel with tsar who waged war on Sweden and says campaign in Ukraine stems from ‘basic values’
Andrew Roth and agencies
Fri 10 Jun 2022
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/10/putin-compares-himself-to-peter-the-great-in-quest-to-take-back-russian-lands#

….“Peter the Great waged the great northern war for 21 years. It would seem that he was at war with Sweden, he took something from them. He did not take anything from them, he returned [what was Russia’s],” the Russian president said on Thursday after a visiting an exhibition dedicated to the tsar….
…..“Apparently, it is also our lot to return [what is Russia’s] and strengthen [the country]. And if we proceed from the fact that these basic values form the basis of our existence, we will certainly succeed in solving the tasks that we face.”…
…Before Putin’s visit to the exhibition, state television aired a documentary praising Peter the Great as a tough military leader, greatly expanding Russian territory at the expense of Sweden and the Ottoman empire with the modernised army and navy he built…..

There are none so blind as those who will not see.

Nick is right.
Pat, you are too close and obsessive about linking Putin to everything ba in the world.

The thing is, the West has ALWAYS been this. The monstrosity we see today has always been there. Its appearance has just caved in because they fear the opposition and loss of power, and TRump is merely the instrumet of the smash and grab/move fast and reak things straegy they have used since Yugoslavia, but especially this century.

The Cold War kept each side somewhat honest because both sides had good points.
It was not the good points that sw the West win the cold war, it was the voracious impossibilty of beating the capitalist engine in competition. That and the USSR got off on the wrong foot by starting with Stalinism as a template.

In the modern world, the state is a necessary evil. But struggling with internal contradictions aside, the communist/socialist world ALWAYS had a claim to the Lesser Evil tag in its international actions, compared to the depredation of the New Age on Neocolonial Neoliberal Imperialism, personified by Israel, and he promotion of Big Men despots to support global capital in the 3rd world. Post Cold war, the West has been aiming for total victory and control, eradication or subjugation of all viewpoints to the needs of global capital, which has now also subsumed global institutions and global governance. The resistance of Russia, China, Iran ,the BRICS – they are demonstrably LESS EVIL than the entire Western Axis, despite all the provocations and pressures the West incites to create newsworthy spectacles to paint the Resistance as the greeater evil. Look at what our own government is doing to seize more control for global capital – just look at the legislation.

The Cold War is long gone. The West are the bad guys because they not only have the predominant global position, they are busing it for decades, in the interest of non democratic, unaccountable actors, and are reaching for global total control.
Pat and Co – Wake the f up.

Nick J makes the following statement:

“….He takes his cues from the oligarchs who are all neocons as are the deep state. The Orange idiot is a mere frontman. Nick J

A statement that I happen to agree with.

I repeat Nick J’s statment back at him replacing Trump with Putin.
Nick J doesn’t say, I agree with this statement, Nick J doesn’t say I disagree with this statement.
Nick J says; “I don’t claim to know the truth about Putin”

He then launches into an ad hominem attack because I dared to compare the two. The hypocrisy is clear, Nick J cliearly holds the opinion that Putin is not a frontman for Russia’s oligarchs, but rather than state his position honestly and defend and argue his case, Nick J indulges in personal attack.

The two statement’s are the same. But Nick J doesn’t say “I don’t claim to know the truth about Trump.”

He knows enough truth about Trump to say Trump is a front man for America’s oligarchs.

There is more than enough evidence that both men are frontmen for the oligarchs of their respective countries. Maybe in slightly different ways. One is an actual oligarch himself, the other is just their frontman.

From YouTube:
Is Vladimir Putin the Actual Richest Man in the World?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tgjbt4EefCg

@0:25 minutes:
…Between his wife’s and his own accounts, the couple seem to have a little over half a milliondollars in cash in various bank accounts…..
….Over the years, people can’t help but notice that Putin has a collection of watches that he wears very publicly, whose purchase price combined is around that of his reported entire net worth, ringing in at about $400,000 to $700,000, if various reports are to be believed. For reference, the highest valued watch he has been spotted wearing costs around $140,000. It’s a PC Philipe perpetual calendar watch.,,,,

Then there are the palaces that he doesn’t actually own.

Actually Pat your ignorance is evident in every unsubstantiated claim. I don’t claim to know the truth about Putin, most of the bollocks you spout is second hand garbage from the limitless publishing of fully paid up shills of Washington and NATO. Seventy years after his death and we still don’t have a full picture of Stalin, yet miraculously Pat ODea has a total picture of Putin. Yeah right. How have you gone on so many years spouting voluminous crap without stopping to use your brain?

And Nick?

Let me complete your thought;

“….He takes his cues from the oligarchs who are all neocons as is the Russian state. Putin is a mere frontman.

Putin and Trump have a common interest in keeping the flow of super-profits acruing from imperialism to oligarchs and billionaires like themselves.