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		By: Dave Y		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/us-driven-ipef-what-is-this-thing/#comment-234778</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Y]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2022 22:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is just another equivalent of the IMF, trying to push American corruption and debt-trap diplomacy on vulnerable nations in the Asia-Pacific (noone rational cares about India) region.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just another equivalent of the IMF, trying to push American corruption and debt-trap diplomacy on vulnerable nations in the Asia-Pacific (noone rational cares about India) region.</p>
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		By: DavidSeymourLover1!		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/us-driven-ipef-what-is-this-thing/#comment-234777</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DavidSeymourLover1!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2022 08:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Globalism has often been portrayed as a the evil job killer in America by the nationalistic republicans, similarly the democratic party often hold up globalism as as capitalist invention which only serves to harm the poor and increase wealth inequality. What both toxic parts of the right and left miss is that globalism where small and large businesses can trade unrestricted will allow mutual tying of economic fates. If trade restrictions are ever introduced by shading US big businesses in such FTA&#039;s in the name of &quot;counter&quot;(ing)&quot; the influence of China in the Asia Pacific&quot;  Then the Chinese side of FTA&#039;s will simply start to supply countries with independent foreign policy (ie not fu*king bothered by BIG U.S.A IMPERIALISM). Right now the attempt to re-align the &#039;western bloc&#039; against the old commie foe is sure to send us all down the toilet since the Chinese goods we use in everyday life are extremely hard to produce at scale in western economic conditions (if we did produce them we would probably add to inflation.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Globalism has often been portrayed as a the evil job killer in America by the nationalistic republicans, similarly the democratic party often hold up globalism as as capitalist invention which only serves to harm the poor and increase wealth inequality. What both toxic parts of the right and left miss is that globalism where small and large businesses can trade unrestricted will allow mutual tying of economic fates. If trade restrictions are ever introduced by shading US big businesses in such FTA&#8217;s in the name of &#8220;counter&#8221;(ing)&#8221; the influence of China in the Asia Pacific&#8221;  Then the Chinese side of FTA&#8217;s will simply start to supply countries with independent foreign policy (ie not fu*king bothered by BIG U.S.A IMPERIALISM). Right now the attempt to re-align the &#8216;western bloc&#8217; against the old commie foe is sure to send us all down the toilet since the Chinese goods we use in everyday life are extremely hard to produce at scale in western economic conditions (if we did produce them we would probably add to inflation.)</p>
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		By: Trevor		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/us-driven-ipef-what-is-this-thing/#comment-234776</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Trevor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2022 03:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/us-driven-ipef-what-is-this-thing/#comment-234775&quot;&gt;Verity Verdant&lt;/a&gt;.

I can agree with you on the respect aspect we all deserve that as each 
person writing a message has taken the trouble to read the comments and make a response.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/us-driven-ipef-what-is-this-thing/#comment-234775">Verity Verdant</a>.</p>
<p>I can agree with you on the respect aspect we all deserve that as each<br />
person writing a message has taken the trouble to read the comments and make a response.</p>
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		By: Verity Verdant		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/us-driven-ipef-what-is-this-thing/#comment-234775</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Verity Verdant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2022 00:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/us-driven-ipef-what-is-this-thing/#comment-234773&quot;&gt;Trevor&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, Trevor, agree to disagree or even accept elements of the other&#039;s argument. But do it with some respect, at least. Too much to ask? Seems so from Gaby&#039;s and others comments.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/us-driven-ipef-what-is-this-thing/#comment-234773">Trevor</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, Trevor, agree to disagree or even accept elements of the other&#8217;s argument. But do it with some respect, at least. Too much to ask? Seems so from Gaby&#8217;s and others comments.</p>
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		By: David Stone		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Stone]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2022 21:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[America&#039;s defence of other nations is likely to be like their defence of Ukraine. Leading to the utter destruction of that country. i hope Taiwan is watching what is happening there. With friends like that who needs enemies?
   D J S]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>America&#8217;s defence of other nations is likely to be like their defence of Ukraine. Leading to the utter destruction of that country. i hope Taiwan is watching what is happening there. With friends like that who needs enemies?<br />
   D J S</p>
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		By: Trevor		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Trevor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2022 06:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/us-driven-ipef-what-is-this-thing/#comment-234767&quot;&gt;Verity Verdant&lt;/a&gt;.

J K  is obviously a clever person and would beat me on her knowledge but the 35 doctors who were antivaxers would also be clever than  me .   This does not mean they are right in  all that they say as all of us have an inbuilt feeling of right and wrong which cannot come from a text book.  Each one of us needs to listen and learn that most times there is a right and a wrong but there is also grey as well if you try and look at thinks from the other persons point of view.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/us-driven-ipef-what-is-this-thing/#comment-234767">Verity Verdant</a>.</p>
<p>J K  is obviously a clever person and would beat me on her knowledge but the 35 doctors who were antivaxers would also be clever than  me .   This does not mean they are right in  all that they say as all of us have an inbuilt feeling of right and wrong which cannot come from a text book.  Each one of us needs to listen and learn that most times there is a right and a wrong but there is also grey as well if you try and look at thinks from the other persons point of view.</p>
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		By: Brian		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2022 06:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/us-driven-ipef-what-is-this-thing/#comment-234758&quot;&gt;Sean&lt;/a&gt;.

ASEAN member countries, or the US stooges that run them! Remember, those countries rely on the US corporations who exploit their slave labour and resources and you are implicit in this process. It is in your interest to support whatever the US concoct, because you don’t represent the masses, just the suits.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/us-driven-ipef-what-is-this-thing/#comment-234758">Sean</a>.</p>
<p>ASEAN member countries, or the US stooges that run them! Remember, those countries rely on the US corporations who exploit their slave labour and resources and you are implicit in this process. It is in your interest to support whatever the US concoct, because you don’t represent the masses, just the suits.</p>
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		By: Verity Verdant		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/us-driven-ipef-what-is-this-thing/#comment-234771</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Verity Verdant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2022 06:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;... doesn&#039;t have a clue....&quot; 
That&#039;s a cheap and nasty shot!
She has an LLB (Victoria), BCL (Oxford), MPhil (Cambridge), PhD (Auckland). She also has, from 1997, a personal Chair at Auckland University. 
She has a clue - I guess many, many more than you do.
I seriously doubt your cluefulness; my guess is you mentally personify your pseudonym!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230; doesn&#8217;t have a clue&#8230;.&#8221;<br />
That&#8217;s a cheap and nasty shot!<br />
She has an LLB (Victoria), BCL (Oxford), MPhil (Cambridge), PhD (Auckland). She also has, from 1997, a personal Chair at Auckland University.<br />
She has a clue &#8211; I guess many, many more than you do.<br />
I seriously doubt your cluefulness; my guess is you mentally personify your pseudonym!</p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/us-driven-ipef-what-is-this-thing/#comment-234770</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gringo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2022 05:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/us-driven-ipef-what-is-this-thing/#comment-234754&quot;&gt;Dave+Brown&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes great article thanks Ms Kelsey and comment above DB. The place to look for inspiration I think is Latin America where an increasing number of countries are throwing off their US backed masters and going against the ex colonial elites; Cuba is the OG of course and Venezuala is still going strong after leading the pink tide of early 2000’s, recently these two have been joined by Colombia, Bolivia, Argentina and Chile. Most recently Lula won the Presidency in Brazil after the dreadful Bolsonaro stole the last election with US support. In Peru the indigenous leader Castillo was ousted by US supported Parliamentary coup just two weeks ago and the people are rioting for his return.

Most of these countries have strong indigenous representation in these leftist movements and I think the interesting challenge for Aotearoa is how does the indigenous population have meaningful input into our foreign policy, how can they influence an a different outcome to simply remaining one of the western bloc allies. Our Foreign Minister is proudly indigenous after all. How can we forge links with other independent  nations such as in Latin America who are forging genuinely independent positions and know they will have to withstand ongoing US led meddling from outside and undermining by their own elites from inside. Just like us really.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/us-driven-ipef-what-is-this-thing/#comment-234754">Dave+Brown</a>.</p>
<p>Yes great article thanks Ms Kelsey and comment above DB. The place to look for inspiration I think is Latin America where an increasing number of countries are throwing off their US backed masters and going against the ex colonial elites; Cuba is the OG of course and Venezuala is still going strong after leading the pink tide of early 2000’s, recently these two have been joined by Colombia, Bolivia, Argentina and Chile. Most recently Lula won the Presidency in Brazil after the dreadful Bolsonaro stole the last election with US support. In Peru the indigenous leader Castillo was ousted by US supported Parliamentary coup just two weeks ago and the people are rioting for his return.</p>
<p>Most of these countries have strong indigenous representation in these leftist movements and I think the interesting challenge for Aotearoa is how does the indigenous population have meaningful input into our foreign policy, how can they influence an a different outcome to simply remaining one of the western bloc allies. Our Foreign Minister is proudly indigenous after all. How can we forge links with other independent  nations such as in Latin America who are forging genuinely independent positions and know they will have to withstand ongoing US led meddling from outside and undermining by their own elites from inside. Just like us really.</p>
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		By: Nitrium		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/us-driven-ipef-what-is-this-thing/#comment-234769</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nitrium]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2022 05:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/us-driven-ipef-what-is-this-thing/#comment-234754&quot;&gt;Dave+Brown&lt;/a&gt;.

Very insightful comment. I think you&#039;re almost completely correct as far as overall strategy is concerned. However, you do not mention the flow of money (i.e. who profits).  &lt;i&gt;Always&lt;/i&gt; follow the money when it comes to political decisions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/us-driven-ipef-what-is-this-thing/#comment-234754">Dave+Brown</a>.</p>
<p>Very insightful comment. I think you&#8217;re almost completely correct as far as overall strategy is concerned. However, you do not mention the flow of money (i.e. who profits).  <i>Always</i> follow the money when it comes to political decisions.</p>
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