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		By: John W		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2020 14:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/ummmm-dear-fellow-kiwis-i-know-we-are-feeling-optimistic-about-this-pandemic-but-you-should-all-read-this/#comment-131080&quot;&gt;Sam&lt;/a&gt;.

Agreed Sam
There is a complication in that the tests are not always reliable and how the swabs are taken appears to be a part of that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/ummmm-dear-fellow-kiwis-i-know-we-are-feeling-optimistic-about-this-pandemic-but-you-should-all-read-this/#comment-131080">Sam</a>.</p>
<p>Agreed Sam<br />
There is a complication in that the tests are not always reliable and how the swabs are taken appears to be a part of that.</p>
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		By: Glenis Boulanger		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Glenis Boulanger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2020 09:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/ummmm-dear-fellow-kiwis-i-know-we-are-feeling-optimistic-about-this-pandemic-but-you-should-all-read-this/#comment-131071&quot;&gt;XRAY&lt;/a&gt;.

The Aussie numbers are pretty impressive considering they got off to a pretty wonky start.  Crowded beaches,  even a boat load of virus infected people and still extremely low spread.   I find their success hard to believe but they&#039;ve done plenty of testing and their rate of infection is below ours.  Of course we count untested probables which is 25% of our total.
Maybe we should congratulate them for an awesome job?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/ummmm-dear-fellow-kiwis-i-know-we-are-feeling-optimistic-about-this-pandemic-but-you-should-all-read-this/#comment-131071">XRAY</a>.</p>
<p>The Aussie numbers are pretty impressive considering they got off to a pretty wonky start.  Crowded beaches,  even a boat load of virus infected people and still extremely low spread.   I find their success hard to believe but they&#8217;ve done plenty of testing and their rate of infection is below ours.  Of course we count untested probables which is 25% of our total.<br />
Maybe we should congratulate them for an awesome job?</p>
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		By: John W		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John W]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2020 08:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/ummmm-dear-fellow-kiwis-i-know-we-are-feeling-optimistic-about-this-pandemic-but-you-should-all-read-this/#comment-131072&quot;&gt;Tiger Mountain&lt;/a&gt;.

Right on TM
The tests are not that reliable so retesting is a part of a testing program.  Wuhan has provided volumes of guidelines on this.
Hone has mana he has earned on a number of occasions.  Full marks for his efforts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/ummmm-dear-fellow-kiwis-i-know-we-are-feeling-optimistic-about-this-pandemic-but-you-should-all-read-this/#comment-131072">Tiger Mountain</a>.</p>
<p>Right on TM<br />
The tests are not that reliable so retesting is a part of a testing program.  Wuhan has provided volumes of guidelines on this.<br />
Hone has mana he has earned on a number of occasions.  Full marks for his efforts.</p>
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		By: John W		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John W]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2020 08:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/ummmm-dear-fellow-kiwis-i-know-we-are-feeling-optimistic-about-this-pandemic-but-you-should-all-read-this/#comment-131096&quot;&gt;reason&lt;/a&gt;.

I can find no reference to Michael Osterholm working on the Coronavirus genome.
Taiwanese. Japanese and Chinese virologist have found a clear path of evidence rejecting the possibility that the covid19 virus evolved from animals in China.
Also there are earlier victims than those from the wet market.
This is all old news now but the rumours still circulate.
I will be more impressed when the USA release data from their early bout of so called influenza victims with covid19 symptoms a short time before the Wuhan out break.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/ummmm-dear-fellow-kiwis-i-know-we-are-feeling-optimistic-about-this-pandemic-but-you-should-all-read-this/#comment-131096">reason</a>.</p>
<p>I can find no reference to Michael Osterholm working on the Coronavirus genome.<br />
Taiwanese. Japanese and Chinese virologist have found a clear path of evidence rejecting the possibility that the covid19 virus evolved from animals in China.<br />
Also there are earlier victims than those from the wet market.<br />
This is all old news now but the rumours still circulate.<br />
I will be more impressed when the USA release data from their early bout of so called influenza victims with covid19 symptoms a short time before the Wuhan out break.</p>
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		By: reason		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[reason]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2020 18:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/ummmm-dear-fellow-kiwis-i-know-we-are-feeling-optimistic-about-this-pandemic-but-you-should-all-read-this/#comment-131098&quot;&gt;Janio&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Janio ,,,, this article touches on the subject ,,,, its about half way down the article https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-out-of-many-one-36b886af37e9

https://miro.medium.com/max/1400/0*DKU_Tp6npBiSEi-4

&quot;“Mitigation”, the strategy where the measures taken are weaker, was much worse for the economy than “suppression”, heavier social distancing measures.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/ummmm-dear-fellow-kiwis-i-know-we-are-feeling-optimistic-about-this-pandemic-but-you-should-all-read-this/#comment-131098">Janio</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Janio ,,,, this article touches on the subject ,,,, its about half way down the article <a href="https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-out-of-many-one-36b886af37e9" rel="nofollow ugc">https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-out-of-many-one-36b886af37e9</a></p>
<p><a href="https://miro.medium.com/max/1400/0*DKU_Tp6npBiSEi-4" rel="nofollow ugc">https://miro.medium.com/max/1400/0*DKU_Tp6npBiSEi-4</a></p>
<p>&#8220;“Mitigation”, the strategy where the measures taken are weaker, was much worse for the economy than “suppression”, heavier social distancing measures.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Janio		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2020 13:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Important research done in the US about closing down business during the flu epidemic in 1918: RNZ Media Watch on Sunday referred to research that evaluated the results in different cities across the US. Where cities went into lockdown quickly and businesses went into remission, the businesses flourished when people recovered and lockdowns were lifted. In the cities where businesses continued, they came out of the period badly. A lesson for us? 

I&#039;ll come back with later the reference when I find it]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Important research done in the US about closing down business during the flu epidemic in 1918: RNZ Media Watch on Sunday referred to research that evaluated the results in different cities across the US. Where cities went into lockdown quickly and businesses went into remission, the businesses flourished when people recovered and lockdowns were lifted. In the cities where businesses continued, they came out of the period badly. A lesson for us? </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll come back with later the reference when I find it</p>
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		By: John W		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John W]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2020 12:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Those mongrels control more than what can meet the eye.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those mongrels control more than what can meet the eye.</p>
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		By: reason		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2020 10:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Despite the conspiracy theories you&#039;re hearing, or the misinformation that&#039;s spreading on social media, it&#039;s clear that this coronavirus came from wildlife.

By looking at the genome of SARS-CoV-2 — the virus that causes COVID-19 — it is clear it has signatures that are closely related to other viruses that are present in wildlife, said evolutionary biologist Jemma Geoghegan of the University of Otago.&quot; https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2020-04-09/how-did-coronavirus-start-where-did-bats-get-covid-19-from/12132312

Or for a informative video which touches on the Bio weapon conspiracy at about the 18 minute mark ,,, Michael Osterholm worked in the bio weapon field for the usa Govt  so he knows more than most https://youtu.be/E3URhJx0NSw

What we also know is that a propaganda war is being waged against China ,,,,, 

Particularly from the usa and the uk ,,,, where two &quot; let it burn &quot; idiot leaders and their Austerity Governments are working hard to avoid the blame they so richly deserve.

With time on our hands now is a good time to watch Shock Doctrine ,,,, as it shows the downward path ot our present position and situation in the world ..... https://youtu.be/B3B5qt6gsxY

Artificial Austerity ,,,, artificial because its  brought about by creative crooks and tax havens,,,, which through Government legislation, chokes Government revenue ,,,  Artificial Austerity is the present stage of shock doctrine ,,, and why our health system, Educational systems etc ,,,, are starved to the point of dysfunction.
&quot;Mehdi Hasan and Naomi Klein on Coronavirus Capitalism&quot;  https://youtu.be/uV-TZlu6MdE]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Despite the conspiracy theories you&#8217;re hearing, or the misinformation that&#8217;s spreading on social media, it&#8217;s clear that this coronavirus came from wildlife.</p>
<p>By looking at the genome of SARS-CoV-2 — the virus that causes COVID-19 — it is clear it has signatures that are closely related to other viruses that are present in wildlife, said evolutionary biologist Jemma Geoghegan of the University of Otago.&#8221; <a href="https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2020-04-09/how-did-coronavirus-start-where-did-bats-get-covid-19-from/12132312" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2020-04-09/how-did-coronavirus-start-where-did-bats-get-covid-19-from/12132312</a></p>
<p>Or for a informative video which touches on the Bio weapon conspiracy at about the 18 minute mark ,,, Michael Osterholm worked in the bio weapon field for the usa Govt  so he knows more than most <a href="https://youtu.be/E3URhJx0NSw" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/E3URhJx0NSw</a></p>
<p>What we also know is that a propaganda war is being waged against China ,,,,, </p>
<p>Particularly from the usa and the uk ,,,, where two &#8221; let it burn &#8221; idiot leaders and their Austerity Governments are working hard to avoid the blame they so richly deserve.</p>
<p>With time on our hands now is a good time to watch Shock Doctrine ,,,, as it shows the downward path ot our present position and situation in the world &#8230;.. <a href="https://youtu.be/B3B5qt6gsxY" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/B3B5qt6gsxY</a></p>
<p>Artificial Austerity ,,,, artificial because its  brought about by creative crooks and tax havens,,,, which through Government legislation, chokes Government revenue ,,,  Artificial Austerity is the present stage of shock doctrine ,,, and why our health system, Educational systems etc ,,,, are starved to the point of dysfunction.<br />
&#8220;Mehdi Hasan and Naomi Klein on Coronavirus Capitalism&#8221;  <a href="https://youtu.be/uV-TZlu6MdE" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/uV-TZlu6MdE</a></p>
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		By: John W		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John W]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2020 10:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yep a biolab fits in with the genome structure.

The US military biolab was shut down just before the civid19 was found in Wuhan and the Chinese have a link with US soldiers visiting Wuhan just prior with an incubation period all matching with the covid19 patent from the hotel where the Americans stayed.

So take your pick but given time there may be better tracing when the US  allows release of their corona flue data around that time.  At the moment they will not share their data but China and others are.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep a biolab fits in with the genome structure.</p>
<p>The US military biolab was shut down just before the civid19 was found in Wuhan and the Chinese have a link with US soldiers visiting Wuhan just prior with an incubation period all matching with the covid19 patent from the hotel where the Americans stayed.</p>
<p>So take your pick but given time there may be better tracing when the US  allows release of their corona flue data around that time.  At the moment they will not share their data but China and others are.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John W]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2020 10:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/ummmm-dear-fellow-kiwis-i-know-we-are-feeling-optimistic-about-this-pandemic-but-you-should-all-read-this/#comment-131076&quot;&gt;CLEANGREEN&lt;/a&gt;.

CG.
Is ACC supporting your position.
Older people have come in contact with years of exposure to various viruses and this seems to have made them more susceptible to the coronavirus  uptake.]]></description>
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<p>CG.<br />
Is ACC supporting your position.<br />
Older people have come in contact with years of exposure to various viruses and this seems to have made them more susceptible to the coronavirus  uptake.</p>
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