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		By: Nikorima		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/trusting-the-news/#comment-203047</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nikorima]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2022 10:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Or Fox news, am show, Tory times herald, Tory talk ZB, Hosking, Garner, Russell, Tory Tim B, Smith, and all those other raving right wing outlets.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or Fox news, am show, Tory times herald, Tory talk ZB, Hosking, Garner, Russell, Tory Tim B, Smith, and all those other raving right wing outlets.</p>
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		By: Nikorima		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/trusting-the-news/#comment-203046</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nikorima]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2022 09:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/trusting-the-news/#comment-203023&quot;&gt;Wheel&lt;/a&gt;.

Media is 90% anti-Labour, hate Jacinda and are promoting NATZ and ACT for government, Why cant Tory Times herald and Tory Talk ZB balance their media platforms with equivalent raving social democrat presenters, writers and journalists who not influenced by the NATZ dirty politics team.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/trusting-the-news/#comment-203023">Wheel</a>.</p>
<p>Media is 90% anti-Labour, hate Jacinda and are promoting NATZ and ACT for government, Why cant Tory Times herald and Tory Talk ZB balance their media platforms with equivalent raving social democrat presenters, writers and journalists who not influenced by the NATZ dirty politics team.</p>
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		By: Tui		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/trusting-the-news/#comment-203045</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tui]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2022 06:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/trusting-the-news/#comment-203035&quot;&gt;Tui&lt;/a&gt;.

Another point of reference and social media (twitter) suspending Scott Ritter (former UN weapons inspector in Iraq).  It&#039;s worth hanging around for Ritter&#039;s full commentary on Bucha at 11mins. 
https://youtu.be/mdm1u0fDy1E?t=665

The western media narrative is premature.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/trusting-the-news/#comment-203035">Tui</a>.</p>
<p>Another point of reference and social media (twitter) suspending Scott Ritter (former UN weapons inspector in Iraq).  It&#8217;s worth hanging around for Ritter&#8217;s full commentary on Bucha at 11mins.<br />
<a href="https://youtu.be/mdm1u0fDy1E?t=665" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/mdm1u0fDy1E?t=665</a></p>
<p>The western media narrative is premature.</p>
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		By: Tui		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/trusting-the-news/#comment-203044</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tui]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2022 02:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/trusting-the-news/#comment-203035&quot;&gt;Tui&lt;/a&gt;.

The lab leak hypothesis, a story once regarded as &#039;misinformation propagated by conspiracy theorists&#039;

&quot;This story is based on more than 100,000 internal EcoHealth Alliance documents obtained by Vanity Fair, as well as interviews with five former staff members and 33 other sources. The documents, most of which predate the pandemic, span a number of years and include budgets, staff and board meeting minutes, and internal emails and reports. While the documents do not tell us where COVID-19 came from, they shed light on the world in which EcoHealth Alliance has operated: one of murky grant agreements, flimsy oversight, and the pursuit of government funds for scientific advancement, in part by pitching research of steeply escalating risk.&quot;

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/03/the-virus-hunting-nonprofit-at-the-center-of-the-lab-leak-controversy]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/trusting-the-news/#comment-203035">Tui</a>.</p>
<p>The lab leak hypothesis, a story once regarded as &#8216;misinformation propagated by conspiracy theorists&#8217;</p>
<p>&#8220;This story is based on more than 100,000 internal EcoHealth Alliance documents obtained by Vanity Fair, as well as interviews with five former staff members and 33 other sources. The documents, most of which predate the pandemic, span a number of years and include budgets, staff and board meeting minutes, and internal emails and reports. While the documents do not tell us where COVID-19 came from, they shed light on the world in which EcoHealth Alliance has operated: one of murky grant agreements, flimsy oversight, and the pursuit of government funds for scientific advancement, in part by pitching research of steeply escalating risk.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/03/the-virus-hunting-nonprofit-at-the-center-of-the-lab-leak-controversy" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/03/the-virus-hunting-nonprofit-at-the-center-of-the-lab-leak-controversy</a></p>
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		By: The Magician		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/trusting-the-news/#comment-203043</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Magician]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2022 08:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[They don&#039;t, you&#039;re right. complaints, complaint processes - usually get sanctimonious replies or grudging alterations to the articles. Total impunity, until they get caught fairbciating (the odd one overseas, germany, US). Then they get dropped like Jimmy Saville. &quot;Bad apples&quot;.
As for your post below, there was no golden age, true. They never asked great questions or delved deep. But there were objectively better processes and standards. But then having actual experts from &quot;each side&quot; on screen debating with a mediator (old school holmes) became the interviewer grilling (Later Holmes/Campbell Live) became journos incestuously interviewing each other, or a friendly roundtable of minimally differing views. In the papers the hard rules of factual reporting and unobtrusive reporting of the relevant parties&#039; views (although making clear who was the &quot;minority report&quot;) became manipulative waffly emotive content, othering and speaking for those othered, along with a swathe of other propaganda techniques that are straight out of wartime.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They don&#8217;t, you&#8217;re right. complaints, complaint processes &#8211; usually get sanctimonious replies or grudging alterations to the articles. Total impunity, until they get caught fairbciating (the odd one overseas, germany, US). Then they get dropped like Jimmy Saville. &#8220;Bad apples&#8221;.<br />
As for your post below, there was no golden age, true. They never asked great questions or delved deep. But there were objectively better processes and standards. But then having actual experts from &#8220;each side&#8221; on screen debating with a mediator (old school holmes) became the interviewer grilling (Later Holmes/Campbell Live) became journos incestuously interviewing each other, or a friendly roundtable of minimally differing views. In the papers the hard rules of factual reporting and unobtrusive reporting of the relevant parties&#8217; views (although making clear who was the &#8220;minority report&#8221;) became manipulative waffly emotive content, othering and speaking for those othered, along with a swathe of other propaganda techniques that are straight out of wartime.</p>
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		By: Keepcalmcarryon		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/trusting-the-news/#comment-203042</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Keepcalmcarryon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Apr 2022 08:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/trusting-the-news/#comment-203027&quot;&gt;Wheel&lt;/a&gt;.

CNN creating a false narrative over the Rittenhouse BLM self defense shooting was a shocking misreporting of actual facts that is still reverberating.
Our own media ran the same bullshit lines here. The court decision was clear on the actual facts.
It is not coincidental media confidence continues to plummet.
Locally, media reporting government lines re the Wellington protests - when everyone could watch the live feeds, was another hammer blow to their credibility.
I encourage anyone who hasn’t to google up NZheralds q and a session they ran shortly after - it’s very telling where public perception is.
And yes the $55 million pieces of silver to run a government line on treaty issues - bought and paid for and it’s simply a lie to say it isn’t so.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/trusting-the-news/#comment-203027">Wheel</a>.</p>
<p>CNN creating a false narrative over the Rittenhouse BLM self defense shooting was a shocking misreporting of actual facts that is still reverberating.<br />
Our own media ran the same bullshit lines here. The court decision was clear on the actual facts.<br />
It is not coincidental media confidence continues to plummet.<br />
Locally, media reporting government lines re the Wellington protests &#8211; when everyone could watch the live feeds, was another hammer blow to their credibility.<br />
I encourage anyone who hasn’t to google up NZheralds q and a session they ran shortly after &#8211; it’s very telling where public perception is.<br />
And yes the $55 million pieces of silver to run a government line on treaty issues &#8211; bought and paid for and it’s simply a lie to say it isn’t so.</p>
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		By: The Magician		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/trusting-the-news/#comment-203041</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Magician]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Apr 2022 03:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The author&#039;s premise needs far more examination;  &#039;mainstream media institutions are at least answerable to professional codes of conduct, official standards of basic accuracy and the legal proscriptions of defamation. Meanwhile, the volume, speed and immediacy of noxious, online traffic overwhelms the slow-moving routines of fact-checking and verification.&quot;

The real truth is that the state and the media both serve the same purpose - elite interests and narratives. There are official enemies and false binaries created by the media and the state everwhere: Russia, &quot;Anti-vaxxers&quot;, anti-science... this is the fundamental dereliction of responsibility to the truth that then compounds in several situations where the establishment - state and media - are screaming black is white. They have the power of authority and coverage that dwarfs the &quot;conspiracy sites&quot;. Most people I know follow excellent social media thinkers who ask inconvenient questions and provide inconvenient facts. Look at the OPCW Ghouta shambles - the whole western coverage of Syria, or Assange. We have seen over years the entire falsehood of the MSM narrative. Some may be just useful tools, but others are System Pigs knowingly collaborating with deceit. And knoing they will be ok because repat, repeat, repeat. 
Thinking people aren&#039;t concerned about social media because they normally just get exposed to one or two facts or sensible questions that poke holes in this veil of narrative - the fact may be even from their own life! Which puts utter lie to the MSM claim to &quot;we are truth&quot;.  Insisting they are truth and not at fault is the biggest problem. Because there is arrogance, elitism, and pure falsehoods woven into the mainstream media narratives. And yet it is those narratives that move pubic opinion and thought. This is why when you have power you should always look to your own actions first rather than &quot;do research&quot; to blame others. Like this article, they do not. This is why thinking people are more concerned with the state of the narrative of power rather than the counternarratives.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The author&#8217;s premise needs far more examination;  &#8216;mainstream media institutions are at least answerable to professional codes of conduct, official standards of basic accuracy and the legal proscriptions of defamation. Meanwhile, the volume, speed and immediacy of noxious, online traffic overwhelms the slow-moving routines of fact-checking and verification.&#8221;</p>
<p>The real truth is that the state and the media both serve the same purpose &#8211; elite interests and narratives. There are official enemies and false binaries created by the media and the state everwhere: Russia, &#8220;Anti-vaxxers&#8221;, anti-science&#8230; this is the fundamental dereliction of responsibility to the truth that then compounds in several situations where the establishment &#8211; state and media &#8211; are screaming black is white. They have the power of authority and coverage that dwarfs the &#8220;conspiracy sites&#8221;. Most people I know follow excellent social media thinkers who ask inconvenient questions and provide inconvenient facts. Look at the OPCW Ghouta shambles &#8211; the whole western coverage of Syria, or Assange. We have seen over years the entire falsehood of the MSM narrative. Some may be just useful tools, but others are System Pigs knowingly collaborating with deceit. And knoing they will be ok because repat, repeat, repeat.<br />
Thinking people aren&#8217;t concerned about social media because they normally just get exposed to one or two facts or sensible questions that poke holes in this veil of narrative &#8211; the fact may be even from their own life! Which puts utter lie to the MSM claim to &#8220;we are truth&#8221;.  Insisting they are truth and not at fault is the biggest problem. Because there is arrogance, elitism, and pure falsehoods woven into the mainstream media narratives. And yet it is those narratives that move pubic opinion and thought. This is why when you have power you should always look to your own actions first rather than &#8220;do research&#8221; to blame others. Like this article, they do not. This is why thinking people are more concerned with the state of the narrative of power rather than the counternarratives.</p>
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		By: Wheel		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/trusting-the-news/#comment-203040</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wheel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Apr 2022 00:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Denny Stuff was sold by Nine Entertainment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Denny Stuff was sold by Nine Entertainment.</p>
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		By: Wheel		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/trusting-the-news/#comment-203039</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wheel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2022 21:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/trusting-the-news/#comment-203036&quot;&gt;Wheel&lt;/a&gt;.

55 million over three years]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/trusting-the-news/#comment-203036">Wheel</a>.</p>
<p>55 million over three years</p>
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		By: Wheel		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/trusting-the-news/#comment-203038</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wheel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2022 20:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/trusting-the-news/#comment-203021&quot;&gt;Andrew&lt;/a&gt;.

“Enforced procedure”. No it’s not. 

Again to entertain the delusional, why go out of the way to create a climate crisis? What is to be gained politically by telling people and the associated industries behind their lifestyles, that things need to do be done differently? Your conspiracy style position makes no practical sense.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/trusting-the-news/#comment-203021">Andrew</a>.</p>
<p>“Enforced procedure”. No it’s not. </p>
<p>Again to entertain the delusional, why go out of the way to create a climate crisis? What is to be gained politically by telling people and the associated industries behind their lifestyles, that things need to do be done differently? Your conspiracy style position makes no practical sense.</p>
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