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	Comments on: MEDIA WATCH: Things we need to consider if we want to social media lynch Michael Jackson	</title>
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		By: Priss		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Priss]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Mar 2019 02:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It may or may not be &quot;fair&quot;. At the very least it may open parents&#039; eyes to be more careful who they entrust their children to. Just because a person is a celebrity and seems likeable is no guarantee of saintliness. 

In the age of #metoo, this is appropriate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may or may not be &#8220;fair&#8221;. At the very least it may open parents&#8217; eyes to be more careful who they entrust their children to. Just because a person is a celebrity and seems likeable is no guarantee of saintliness. </p>
<p>In the age of #metoo, this is appropriate.</p>
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		By: Keepcalmcarryon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Keepcalmcarryon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2019 01:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sooo all you due process advocates, how many of you would let your kids be shut away with Michael Jackson to overnight unsupervised? Innocent until proven guilty you know.
No? Why not? Only creepy wierdos want to overnight alone with other people’s kids?
Aren’t you judging then but virtue signaling how open minded you are?
The guy is dead but highly suspect, the argument is just over money, who cares. Due in a ditch for due process over someone worthy]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sooo all you due process advocates, how many of you would let your kids be shut away with Michael Jackson to overnight unsupervised? Innocent until proven guilty you know.<br />
No? Why not? Only creepy wierdos want to overnight alone with other people’s kids?<br />
Aren’t you judging then but virtue signaling how open minded you are?<br />
The guy is dead but highly suspect, the argument is just over money, who cares. Due in a ditch for due process over someone worthy</p>
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		By: Frank Macskasy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank Macskasy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2019 00:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/things-we-need-to-consider-if-we-want-to-social-media-lynch-michael-jackson/#comment-101211&quot;&gt;Riki alan&lt;/a&gt;.

Are you trolling?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/things-we-need-to-consider-if-we-want-to-social-media-lynch-michael-jackson/#comment-101211">Riki alan</a>.</p>
<p>Are you trolling?</p>
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		By: SPC		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SPC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2019 23:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/things-we-need-to-consider-if-we-want-to-social-media-lynch-michael-jackson/#comment-101197&quot;&gt;francesca&lt;/a&gt;.

You do realise, 

&quot;In the post #MeToo cultural landscape where allegation is the new evidential threshold, due process merely heteronormative patriarchal white cis male privilege and any challenge towards an accusation is victim shaming, victim blaming and supporting rape culture.&quot; 

is mainstream thought right out of the GOP/Fox News landscape?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/things-we-need-to-consider-if-we-want-to-social-media-lynch-michael-jackson/#comment-101197">francesca</a>.</p>
<p>You do realise, </p>
<p>&#8220;In the post #MeToo cultural landscape where allegation is the new evidential threshold, due process merely heteronormative patriarchal white cis male privilege and any challenge towards an accusation is victim shaming, victim blaming and supporting rape culture.&#8221; </p>
<p>is mainstream thought right out of the GOP/Fox News landscape?</p>
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		By: SPC		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SPC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2019 22:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/things-we-need-to-consider-if-we-want-to-social-media-lynch-michael-jackson/#comment-101200&quot;&gt;Michelle&lt;/a&gt;.

So you regard female accusations about male behaviour to be slanderous?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/things-we-need-to-consider-if-we-want-to-social-media-lynch-michael-jackson/#comment-101200">Michelle</a>.</p>
<p>So you regard female accusations about male behaviour to be slanderous?</p>
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		By: SPC		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SPC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2019 22:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/things-we-need-to-consider-if-we-want-to-social-media-lynch-michael-jackson/#comment-101209&quot;&gt;Michelle&lt;/a&gt;.

There is a hole in the bucket, he cannot be charged with perjury in 2005 without proof that Jackson and he had sex.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/things-we-need-to-consider-if-we-want-to-social-media-lynch-michael-jackson/#comment-101209">Michelle</a>.</p>
<p>There is a hole in the bucket, he cannot be charged with perjury in 2005 without proof that Jackson and he had sex.</p>
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		By: Riki alan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Riki alan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2019 21:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Parents share their bed with children regularly. Why would one expect normal behaviour from a rare genius.
 Vanity fair! That exalted bastion of truth and honesty? I would trust MJJ to have my son over for a slumber party at any age.I would trust Michael before 99% of the rest of the population of the planet.

I was reading the court transcripts of the Gavin Arviso court case alongside the media reports of the same days proceedings. The evil Intent of the mendacious media was fully laid bare for even the most stupid fool to deduce. So you may get an idea how nutty i think most of  the population are.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parents share their bed with children regularly. Why would one expect normal behaviour from a rare genius.<br />
 Vanity fair! That exalted bastion of truth and honesty? I would trust MJJ to have my son over for a slumber party at any age.I would trust Michael before 99% of the rest of the population of the planet.</p>
<p>I was reading the court transcripts of the Gavin Arviso court case alongside the media reports of the same days proceedings. The evil Intent of the mendacious media was fully laid bare for even the most stupid fool to deduce. So you may get an idea how nutty i think most of  the population are.</p>
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		By: Tom Gardner		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Gardner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2019 07:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Fyi from Vanity Fair:

10 undeniable facts about the sexual-abuse allegations against Michael Jackson.

1. There is no dispute that, at age 34, Michael Jackson slept more than 30 nights in a row in the same bed with 13-year-old Jordie Chandler at the boy’s house with Chandler’s mother present. He also slept in the same bed with Jordie Chandler at Chandler’s father’s house. The parents were divorced.

2. So far, five boys Michael Jackson shared beds with have accused him of abuse: Jordie Chandler, Jason Francia, Gavin Arvizo, Wade Robson, and Jimmy Safechuck. Jackson had the same nickname for Chandler and Arvizo: “Rubba.” He called Robson “Little One” and Safechuck “Applehead.”

3. Jackson paid $25 million to settle the Chandlers’ lawsuit, with $18 million going to Jordie, $2.5 million to each of the parents, and the rest to lawyers. Jackson said he paid that sum to avoid something “long and drawn out.” Francia also received $2.4 million from Jackson.

4. Michael Jackson suffered from the skin discoloration disease vitiligo. Jordie Chandler drew a picture of the markings on the underside of Jackson’s penis. His drawings were sealed in an envelope. A few months later, investigators photographed Jackson’s genitalia. The photographs matched Chandler’s drawings.

5. The hallway leading to Jackson’s bedroom was a serious security zone covered by video and wired for sound so that the steps of anyone approaching would make ding-dong sounds.

6. Jackson had an extensive collection of adult erotic material he kept in a suitcase next to his bed, including S&#038;M bondage photos and a study of naked boys. Forensic experts with experience in the Secret Service found the fingerprints of boys alongside Jackson’s on the same pages. Jackson also had bondage sculptures of women with ball gags in their mouths on his desk, in full view of the boys who slept there.

7. According to the Neverland staff interviewed by the Santa Barbara authorities, no one ever saw or knew of a woman spending the night with Michael Jackson, including his two spouses, Debbie Rowe or Lisa Marie Presley. Rowe, the mother of two of Jackson’s children, made it clear to the Santa Barbara authorities that she never had sex with Jackson.

8. The parents of boys Jackson shared beds with were courted assiduously and given myriad expensive gifts. Wade Robson’s mother testified in the 2005 trial that she funneled wages through Jackson’s company and was given a permanent resident visa. Jimmy Safechuck’s parents got a house. Jordie Chandler’s mother got a diamond bracelet.

9. Two of the fathers of those who have accused Jackson, Jordie Chandler and Wade Robson, committed suicide. Both were estranged from their sons at the time.

10. In a 2002 documentary, Living with Michael Jackson, Jackson told Martin Bashir there was nothing wrong with sharing his bed with boys.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fyi from Vanity Fair:</p>
<p>10 undeniable facts about the sexual-abuse allegations against Michael Jackson.</p>
<p>1. There is no dispute that, at age 34, Michael Jackson slept more than 30 nights in a row in the same bed with 13-year-old Jordie Chandler at the boy’s house with Chandler’s mother present. He also slept in the same bed with Jordie Chandler at Chandler’s father’s house. The parents were divorced.</p>
<p>2. So far, five boys Michael Jackson shared beds with have accused him of abuse: Jordie Chandler, Jason Francia, Gavin Arvizo, Wade Robson, and Jimmy Safechuck. Jackson had the same nickname for Chandler and Arvizo: “Rubba.” He called Robson “Little One” and Safechuck “Applehead.”</p>
<p>3. Jackson paid $25 million to settle the Chandlers’ lawsuit, with $18 million going to Jordie, $2.5 million to each of the parents, and the rest to lawyers. Jackson said he paid that sum to avoid something “long and drawn out.” Francia also received $2.4 million from Jackson.</p>
<p>4. Michael Jackson suffered from the skin discoloration disease vitiligo. Jordie Chandler drew a picture of the markings on the underside of Jackson’s penis. His drawings were sealed in an envelope. A few months later, investigators photographed Jackson’s genitalia. The photographs matched Chandler’s drawings.</p>
<p>5. The hallway leading to Jackson’s bedroom was a serious security zone covered by video and wired for sound so that the steps of anyone approaching would make ding-dong sounds.</p>
<p>6. Jackson had an extensive collection of adult erotic material he kept in a suitcase next to his bed, including S&amp;M bondage photos and a study of naked boys. Forensic experts with experience in the Secret Service found the fingerprints of boys alongside Jackson’s on the same pages. Jackson also had bondage sculptures of women with ball gags in their mouths on his desk, in full view of the boys who slept there.</p>
<p>7. According to the Neverland staff interviewed by the Santa Barbara authorities, no one ever saw or knew of a woman spending the night with Michael Jackson, including his two spouses, Debbie Rowe or Lisa Marie Presley. Rowe, the mother of two of Jackson’s children, made it clear to the Santa Barbara authorities that she never had sex with Jackson.</p>
<p>8. The parents of boys Jackson shared beds with were courted assiduously and given myriad expensive gifts. Wade Robson’s mother testified in the 2005 trial that she funneled wages through Jackson’s company and was given a permanent resident visa. Jimmy Safechuck’s parents got a house. Jordie Chandler’s mother got a diamond bracelet.</p>
<p>9. Two of the fathers of those who have accused Jackson, Jordie Chandler and Wade Robson, committed suicide. Both were estranged from their sons at the time.</p>
<p>10. In a 2002 documentary, Living with Michael Jackson, Jackson told Martin Bashir there was nothing wrong with sharing his bed with boys.</p>
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		By: Michelle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michelle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2019 05:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/things-we-need-to-consider-if-we-want-to-social-media-lynch-michael-jackson/#comment-101207&quot;&gt;mary_a&lt;/a&gt;.

all the more reason why we need to move perjury is serious  in other words he is a fucken liar]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/things-we-need-to-consider-if-we-want-to-social-media-lynch-michael-jackson/#comment-101207">mary_a</a>.</p>
<p>all the more reason why we need to move perjury is serious  in other words he is a fucken liar</p>
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		By: Nik		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2019 04:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m no fan of his music past the Jackson 5, but that is of course irrelevant in this debate (although no doubt more than enough for some haters of course).
Like Martyn, and everyone else whether they think so or not, I do not know what he did or didn&#039;t do. There was compelling lack of evidence besides anecdotal in his 2 trials, but absence of evidence is not proof.
With all the possible scenarios being mooted, I&#039;ve yet to hear anyone suggest the possibility that the boys are not lying, but have potentially created false memories in their minds, perhaps manipulated by therapists or lawyers.
Research has shown such false memories can seem every bit as real as a genuine one. I don&#039;t believe this is definitely what&#039;s going on but I definitely think it would be worth investigating.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m no fan of his music past the Jackson 5, but that is of course irrelevant in this debate (although no doubt more than enough for some haters of course).<br />
Like Martyn, and everyone else whether they think so or not, I do not know what he did or didn&#8217;t do. There was compelling lack of evidence besides anecdotal in his 2 trials, but absence of evidence is not proof.<br />
With all the possible scenarios being mooted, I&#8217;ve yet to hear anyone suggest the possibility that the boys are not lying, but have potentially created false memories in their minds, perhaps manipulated by therapists or lawyers.<br />
Research has shown such false memories can seem every bit as real as a genuine one. I don&#8217;t believe this is definitely what&#8217;s going on but I definitely think it would be worth investigating.</p>
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