Yes, devolution of power is a way to ameliorate the effects of majoritarianism. But more fundamentally you could do away with the principle that all power goes to the person or party or parties who secure a majority of the vote, which is of course the basic principle of majoritarianism. That means you would have abandon the concept of “winning” or “losing” an election. (Epitomised by Michael Cullen’s infamous remark “We won. You lost. Eat that”.) That in turn means that a citizen’s vote would never be “given” to a candidate, but instead revocably assigned to a chosen representative for an indefinite period. So to actually abolish majoritarianism, which sits at the heart of the Westminster system, you would need to effect nothing less than a political revolution.

Geoff, for me it would see Parliament, and not Cabinet and coalition deals, have control.

You are arguing semantics – the proposed Bill will remove any Indigenous rights enshrined in the Treaty, and threrefore, in real terms, disadvantage Maori. If that is not its intention why is it being done?

Yep, good luck with that proposal. Once the various tribes had sorted out what land belong to what tribe (set the boundaries), how much was stolen and how much was sold and who will recompenses for the improved value of all land that will be nationalised back to tribal entities.

I just dont see a vote going for nationalisation of land back to Maori owners.

The tribal boundaries will be interesting for at one stage Ngapuhi raided from the East Coast to Taranaki. Is that the Ngapuhi boundaries.

Seeing that it took over 100 years for Ngati Porou to reconcile to Ngapuhi wrongs, it could well be another 100 years for accurate tribal boundaries to be set.

Worth a read;

https://nzetc.victoria.ac.nz/tm/scholarly/tei-MacHist-t1-body-d9.html

“So terrible were the raids that over a century passed before Ngati-Porou agreed to allow bygones to be bygones and accepted representatives of Ngapuhi as honoured guests. “

Polling? A majority? Not sure what you mean here. The election resulted in a coalition government, a a majority in legislative terms, but created by negotiation of the promises made by respective coalition partners. A democratic majority is an illusion.

First, need to clarify what does this future with treaty at the centre looks like. What will next 50 years look like. Will we still be making treaty settlements, separate legal system, separate privileges for maori in 50 years? Or will we all be one?

Until NZ understand and mostly agree what the govt is trying to achieve, this country will be divided. Labour tried to implement ha Papua in stealth. People do not forgive govts implementing policies through the backdoor.

We dont need a son of England telling us what to do

No Gerrit, all the stolen land given back and rented out to the receivers of stolen property at fair market rates. That would bet a good starting point.

Which surely can’t be far off.