https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UStBEIcdhqk

Just a clip soon to be forbidden, but Trump idiots will have their “sources”, I am sure.

Whatever anyone believes its an appalling tragedy for both sides and all Syrians.

One glance at Libya and what happened there is surely enough to rally the population around Assad whether they strongly supported him or not, and continuing atrocities by “moderates”( Al Nusra front etc.) with no clear distinction from extremists would only reinforce that trend.

Assad former “friend” of America in 2008 declined to allow a pipeline to be built from Quatar through Syria that could supply the European market and damage the Russian natural gas market and economy, coincidentally or not after that the American narrative changed

http://www.idexuae.ae/

I wonder, does NZ Inc also have a stall there, planned for the next defense exhibition in Abu Dhabi in 2017? What about

http://www.nzdia.co.nz/

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1511/S00192/new-report-on-nzs-weapons-and-military-related-industry.htm

““Meanwhile, the New Zealand government has outstanding contracts with the world’s largest weapons manufacturer, Lockheed Martin, for a half-billion dollars. This is a company that recently justified the widespread horrific bombing of civilians in Yemen by the Saudi Air Force using Lockheed-made F-16 fighter jets and Hellfire missiles.”

And are these guys still playing a role?
http://www.rakon.com/

The NZ defence manufacturers are delighted about local plans, at least:
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/BU1606/S00251/huge-opportunity-for-nz-defence-manufacturing-companies.htm

So is John Key also representing the interests of NZ Inc when working to get a free trade deal with the Gulf States? I bet he is, so all talk of “peace efforts” at the UN Security Council should perhaps be scrutinised a bit more, for what it really means.

“Whatever you want to say about Assad, he has the overwhelming support of his people against this insurgency, that’s how he has survived till Russia started thumping the terrorists and mercs.”

You are misguided, I fear.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/aug/09/syria-protest-troops-attack-democracy-demonstrators

https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=syria+protests+2011&biw=948&bih=592&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=0ahUKEwj6stqb1LjPAhWDKpQKHXSADqsQsAQIOg

While Assad has some support of course, from the old vested interest holding lobby and business groups and his party membership, I bet he has at least as many enemies.

This simplistic good and bad, regime against terrorist, black against white argumentation is nonsense.

If Assad enjoyed the support you claim, it would never have escalated to this level. Sadly extremists took the opportunity and soon sidelined the pro democracy forces, thus taking control of much of the opposition and present fighting.

It appears you rush to making comments without even reading a post properly, let alone take note of who the actual author is.

This was not written by Martyn.

Agree, Aircooled. First two responses came from over-zealous, partisan bigots.

PB;

Could not have said it better.

Links about current news that we will never see on MSM in order of occurrence. The second one looks like it will not appear on RT either.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/obama-is-protecting-the-terrorists-america-to-the-rescue-of-isis-daesh-testimonies-of-syrian-soldiers-who-witnessed-the-us-airstrikes/5546610

http://www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-coalition-intelligence-operations-room-inside-syria-destroyed-by-russian-missile-attack-thirty-israeli-american-british-turkish-saudi-qatari-intelligence-officials-killed-report/5547099

“THe terrorists know that the West need atrocities on the ground to wrap their media narrative around and as they get more desperate for support, they will commit more of them.”

Many of these atrocities are actually staged by Western MSM for
the images that are needed for the ‘Hearts and minds’ you talk
about. (the image above could well be one)

Mike in Auckland (below) is still banging on about ;
“as the regime has done, for instance by indiscriminately dropping barrel bombs and apparently also chlorine gas bombs, that also killed many civilians.”
These have already been investigated.

Part of my reply from Martyn’s 9/11 article.
“BBC has been caught actually involved in fabricating news as in the
scenes of children supposedly affected in the first gas attack
blamed on Assad. This was supposed to be the red line to bring in coalition forces. It failed.
Investigation showed the ‘rebels’ involvement.

Another, cutting and pasting of images from their archives to portray
a false narrative on more than one occasion.
This is why MSM is discredited now with only 6% trust in America.
They can even change words the reporter may have said in the
initial report with latest software.
And then there is a whole industry involved in ‘Crises Acting’.”

I suspect that ISIS (and TPTB) had in mind of Aleppo as their
capital city if they were successful in carving out their Caliphate.

Cheers.

I do not think that the US or Russia will be keen on a war, but one day it will happen, maybe just by “accident”, one side overstepping the line too far and others hitting back.

If Trump wins and gets into the White House and will be Commander in Chief over the Pentagon and so, we have stuff to worry about, really worry about. It may not be Russia he may push too far, there is perhaps more of a threat in East and South East Asia, which will also drag New Zealand into a new serious major conflict.