Comments on: So now CIA have concluded Saudi crown prince ordered Khashoggi’s murder – will Jacinda cur diplomatic ties with Saudi Arabia?

By: Marc

Marc — Tue, 20 Nov 2018 07:11:16 +0000

That Prince Salman looks so handsome and friendly on some photos, but in truth he has blood on his hands, it is dripping out of his sleeves, yet Trump and others, apart from a few, still rather shake his hand. What a damned disgrace we have in 2018.

By: Lone Comet

Lone Comet — Mon, 19 Nov 2018 12:30:14 +0000

Your call for NZ to drop all ties is correct. Why tho do the government appear to be sitting on their hands, averting their eyes and closing their ears?The Saudi genocide in Yemen war, the kidnapping of the Lebanese Head of State, the embargo of Qatar, the shocking atrociously brazen slaughter of Jamaal, all these are such a clear breach in full light of day against all modern world values. Yet hands are bin shaken and money is bin taken. Totally sickening. Have some morals, make NZ great again! Be the first nation to cut all ties.

By: francesca

francesca — Mon, 19 Nov 2018 06:05:07 +0000

In reply to Lois Griffiths.

Absolutely Lois
I’m sick of people saying that we need to have an army.
True realism dictates we have to take the next evolutionary step , transcend our reptilian brains and learn to co operate, not dominate
Our lives truly depend on it as you say

By: Mjolnir

Mjolnir — Mon, 19 Nov 2018 01:10:26 +0000

It’s a strange, strange world when the truth comes out from the CIA, despite the Saudis being a client state (much like Israel, or is that the other way around??) of the US Empire.

Should the time arise that the CIA refuses orders from the US deep state to topple an unfriendly government somewhere in the world, citing it as an illegal act, then we really are living on a Bizarro Earth.

By: Michelle

Michelle — Sun, 18 Nov 2018 21:21:17 +0000

Yes agree Martyn we cant speak of kindness then shake the hand of cold blooded killers and smile when we are quick to lock them up here in our own country for lesser crimes. We have to be seen to be doing what is right and stand by our moral & principles something that was lacking in
our last government.

By: Christine

Christine — Sun, 18 Nov 2018 05:26:15 +0000

In reply to RED BUZZARD.

100% Francesca – and what a nerve the opposition have squeaking away about one dodgy Czech immigrant when Key redefined this country’s core values against the interests of 99% of its people.

And because of the company we keep, NZ’ers now feature as baddies in the collective memory of poor terrorised peasants up in the Hindu Kush. Shame on us – but history can be re-started – and it should be, right now.

By: Lois Griffiths

Lois Griffiths — Sun, 18 Nov 2018 02:59:33 +0000

The regimes of the US, Israel, Saudi Arabia , Myanmar, UK are all allies. Oh Brazil too. Bolsonaro is a fascist.

The serious debate that needs to take place is: Does NZ dare have a truly independent foreign policy based on human rights, on justice for all? And how can NZ play a role in the struggle to turn away the world away from militarism so peoples around the world can focus on climate breakdown and extreme inequality..and stand up to genocide in Myanmar, Yemen and Gaza? Yes the assassination of the Saudi journalist was obscene..the bombing of Yemen with weapons sold by the US and UK is obscene..the murder of Gazan children, journalists, medics is obscene. The international weapons trade is obscene.

NZ could start by withdrawing from Waihopai and from military commitments. And please , no more weapons fairs.

By: RED BUZZARD

RED BUZZARD — Sat, 17 Nov 2018 21:49:30 +0000

In reply to francesca.

+100 FRANCESCA….and didn’t John Key lower the NZ flag to half mast when the Saudi king died?

( when most New Zealanders thought what the fuck?!….we didnt know we were friends of Saudi Arabia or the King of the Saudis )

…showed where jonkeys’ sympathies or economic interests were

Israel also has close ties with Saudi Arabia:

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/preview-2018-terrorism-will-thrive-while-the-middle-east-remains-a-pit-of-despotism-a8107906.html

https://www.mondialisation.ca/isis-is-a-us-israeli-creation-top-ten-indications/5518627

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/al-jazeera-saudi-arabia-israel-policy-terrorism-isis-iran-prince-mohamed-netanyahu-a7885851.html

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-42094105

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-43632905

By: Marc

Marc — Sat, 17 Nov 2018 06:35:01 +0000

In reply to francesca. Sad but have to agree, was only 'further news' on TVNZ and so, shameful.

By: Marc

Marc — Sat, 17 Nov 2018 05:46:54 +0000

Money, love money, give me another handshake, thanks, deal done. No further questions asked.