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		By: Cassie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cassie]]></dc:creator>
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		By: D'Esterre		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[D'Esterre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2017 23:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;The absence in EziBuy of pictures of Maori, Asian, Pacific, Middle Eastern women of all ethnicities and nations, and other women who make up the diversity of New Zealand life, meant that women different from a ‘white’ homogenous ‘standard....&quot;

This is the trap of identity politics, in which diversity is characterised only by skin colour. It is the same trap into which Mai Chen has unfortunately fallen.

In virtue of what should you suppose that a group of white women isn&#039;t ethnically diverse? The concept of diversity isn&#039;t exhausted by skin colour. One might as easily use eye or hair colour, or eye shape. Bear in mind that many people who we would see as white have the epicanthic fold, for instance.

Those of us who are white come from very diverse ethnic backgrounds, which will doubtless apply to the Ezibuy models; many of us take exception to this sort of polemic, which just comes across as white guilt. We need more of that like we need toothache.

&quot;...every woman in the catalogue met a rare and unrealistic standard of ‘perfect’ teeth, hair and height....&quot;

You do realise, don&#039;t you, that they&#039;ll all be photoshopped - including the brown women? We all know it. You&#039;d be justifid in taking a poke at that: just leave the skin colour furphy out of it.
 
&quot;There were no pictures of models with t-shirts saying ‘I’m racist on the inside’ in the EziBuy magazine, to adopt an angle from the Human Rights Commission’s ‘Give nothing to racism’ campaign fronted by Taika Waititi...&quot;

Good grief! I sure hope not. This &quot;racism&quot; meme is another furphy, which is beginning to sound disturbingly like the &quot;Reds-under-the-bed&quot; hysteria of my youth. Don&#039;t conflate societal prejudice and bias with racism: it isn&#039;t. Racism is what governments do: the apartheid of South Africa and in particular the southern states of the US prior to the civil rights movement (also in my youth), are exemplars.

Call out prejudice if you want to, but remember that we live in a polity which values free speech. You may not like manifestations of it, but it doesn&#039;t follow that it should be shut down.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The absence in EziBuy of pictures of Maori, Asian, Pacific, Middle Eastern women of all ethnicities and nations, and other women who make up the diversity of New Zealand life, meant that women different from a ‘white’ homogenous ‘standard&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is the trap of identity politics, in which diversity is characterised only by skin colour. It is the same trap into which Mai Chen has unfortunately fallen.</p>
<p>In virtue of what should you suppose that a group of white women isn&#8217;t ethnically diverse? The concept of diversity isn&#8217;t exhausted by skin colour. One might as easily use eye or hair colour, or eye shape. Bear in mind that many people who we would see as white have the epicanthic fold, for instance.</p>
<p>Those of us who are white come from very diverse ethnic backgrounds, which will doubtless apply to the Ezibuy models; many of us take exception to this sort of polemic, which just comes across as white guilt. We need more of that like we need toothache.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;every woman in the catalogue met a rare and unrealistic standard of ‘perfect’ teeth, hair and height&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>You do realise, don&#8217;t you, that they&#8217;ll all be photoshopped &#8211; including the brown women? We all know it. You&#8217;d be justifid in taking a poke at that: just leave the skin colour furphy out of it.</p>
<p>&#8220;There were no pictures of models with t-shirts saying ‘I’m racist on the inside’ in the EziBuy magazine, to adopt an angle from the Human Rights Commission’s ‘Give nothing to racism’ campaign fronted by Taika Waititi&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Good grief! I sure hope not. This &#8220;racism&#8221; meme is another furphy, which is beginning to sound disturbingly like the &#8220;Reds-under-the-bed&#8221; hysteria of my youth. Don&#8217;t conflate societal prejudice and bias with racism: it isn&#8217;t. Racism is what governments do: the apartheid of South Africa and in particular the southern states of the US prior to the civil rights movement (also in my youth), are exemplars.</p>
<p>Call out prejudice if you want to, but remember that we live in a polity which values free speech. You may not like manifestations of it, but it doesn&#8217;t follow that it should be shut down.</p>
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		By: D'Esterre		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[D'Esterre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2017 22:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/reflections-on-racial-exclusion-in-an-ezibuy-catalogue/#comment-68742&quot;&gt;Benn&lt;/a&gt;.

Benn: &quot;Looks like a concrete slum to me.&quot;

Heh, doesn&#039;t it just! Queen St looks very down-at-heel now, and when one walks up Victoria St and the smell of the sewers is pervasive, it suggests a city centre which has reached the limits of its capacity to cope with increased population.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/reflections-on-racial-exclusion-in-an-ezibuy-catalogue/#comment-68742">Benn</a>.</p>
<p>Benn: &#8220;Looks like a concrete slum to me.&#8221;</p>
<p>Heh, doesn&#8217;t it just! Queen St looks very down-at-heel now, and when one walks up Victoria St and the smell of the sewers is pervasive, it suggests a city centre which has reached the limits of its capacity to cope with increased population.</p>
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		By: redbush		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[redbush]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2017 03:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[72% is a pretty big corner of the market.  And by the way, apparently &#039;African-American&#039; is no longer acceptable.  The argument is, they are not hyphenated Americans but actual Americans.  Keep up - progressive racial politics is a fast moving game.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>72% is a pretty big corner of the market.  And by the way, apparently &#8216;African-American&#8217; is no longer acceptable.  The argument is, they are not hyphenated Americans but actual Americans.  Keep up &#8211; progressive racial politics is a fast moving game.</p>
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		By: Christine RoseChristine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christine RoseChristine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2017 06:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/reflections-on-racial-exclusion-in-an-ezibuy-catalogue/#comment-68746&quot;&gt;savenz&lt;/a&gt;.

I write plenty about wider injustices too if you care to look back. It doesn&#039;t make these concerns any less.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/reflections-on-racial-exclusion-in-an-ezibuy-catalogue/#comment-68746">savenz</a>.</p>
<p>I write plenty about wider injustices too if you care to look back. It doesn&#8217;t make these concerns any less.</p>
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		By: Michal		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2017 06:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am astonished at people making comments around the idea that there are more &#039;important&#039; things to complain about or discuss.  Get on and write for the Daily Blog and send it to Mr Bradbury.  As a recipient of their regular mags I have now contacted them and gone on their &#039;live chat&#039; and explained why I no longer wish tor eceive their catalogues:  https://www.ezibuy.com/shop/nz/login/liveChat 

We need to stamp out racism whereever it is!  Good on you Christine.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am astonished at people making comments around the idea that there are more &#8216;important&#8217; things to complain about or discuss.  Get on and write for the Daily Blog and send it to Mr Bradbury.  As a recipient of their regular mags I have now contacted them and gone on their &#8216;live chat&#8217; and explained why I no longer wish tor eceive their catalogues:  <a href="https://www.ezibuy.com/shop/nz/login/liveChat" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.ezibuy.com/shop/nz/login/liveChat</a> </p>
<p>We need to stamp out racism whereever it is!  Good on you Christine.</p>
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		By: Michelle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michelle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2017 02:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[what a load of bull Andrew]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what a load of bull Andrew</p>
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		By: Crissie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Crissie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2017 20:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am on Italian heritage an saying &#039;Eurpean&#039; does not clearly identify the problem as folks from certain Mediterranean countries have experienced discrimarion in this country and it was really bad in Australia up until the 1970/80 it is still in some parts in Australia even now, it is still here also but in hidden and insidious ways. However it was also still open here in the 70&#039;s and 80&#039;s. As a family we could tell you of it especially the references to the &#039;mafia&#039;. But things like telling people, who could not speak English to speak English on places like buses when they were speaking to their friend in  Italian. Referring to people as smelling of garlic my mother would not touch garlic because of that. Italians having to change there name to an English name as people could not say there name my &#039;uncle Bob&#039; told about his name it was  &#039;Anello&#039; but he used &#039;bob&#039; he said they can spell that. My name is Italian but people insist on the English spelling I have even been asked if I have spelt it correctly even at &#039;teachers college&#039; in 1987. No we have racist against certain Mediterranean countries and that includes Greece also as I have friends Greek and have heard their stories also.  Then following that, the discrimation that I have felt against someone of the Catholic religion that has been rampant in this country and that goes as far as jobs and promotions etc. we are a people who do not like minorities or anyone different to our own reflection of the mirror is my observation in all this. It has been at the tolerance of the old Italians that this has been left unsaid as they did not want trouble they came here in the early 1900&#039;s and they just wanted a better life than the one they left behind but food, language, religion and culture made that very hard for these people and they suffered in silence.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am on Italian heritage an saying &#8216;Eurpean&#8217; does not clearly identify the problem as folks from certain Mediterranean countries have experienced discrimarion in this country and it was really bad in Australia up until the 1970/80 it is still in some parts in Australia even now, it is still here also but in hidden and insidious ways. However it was also still open here in the 70&#8217;s and 80&#8217;s. As a family we could tell you of it especially the references to the &#8216;mafia&#8217;. But things like telling people, who could not speak English to speak English on places like buses when they were speaking to their friend in  Italian. Referring to people as smelling of garlic my mother would not touch garlic because of that. Italians having to change there name to an English name as people could not say there name my &#8216;uncle Bob&#8217; told about his name it was  &#8216;Anello&#8217; but he used &#8216;bob&#8217; he said they can spell that. My name is Italian but people insist on the English spelling I have even been asked if I have spelt it correctly even at &#8216;teachers college&#8217; in 1987. No we have racist against certain Mediterranean countries and that includes Greece also as I have friends Greek and have heard their stories also.  Then following that, the discrimation that I have felt against someone of the Catholic religion that has been rampant in this country and that goes as far as jobs and promotions etc. we are a people who do not like minorities or anyone different to our own reflection of the mirror is my observation in all this. It has been at the tolerance of the old Italians that this has been left unsaid as they did not want trouble they came here in the early 1900&#8217;s and they just wanted a better life than the one they left behind but food, language, religion and culture made that very hard for these people and they suffered in silence.</p>
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		By: savenz		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[savenz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2017 10:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/reflections-on-racial-exclusion-in-an-ezibuy-catalogue/#comment-68739&quot;&gt;simonm&lt;/a&gt;.

+1 SIMONM, I too can&#039;t sleep with the Ezibuy scandal and labelling of toilets. 

I&#039;m sure that Ezibuy representation would be just up Susan Devoy and NZ Human rights commission. I have noticed the more trivial the issue the more the establishment seems to be keen to take it on. 

Serious human rights can then remain under the radar while human rights resources and media can focus on issues minor and one dimensional. The effect is to devalue the idea of human rights and make the public sceptical about them. 

Atrocities in Afghanistan by our own forces for example... evicting state house tenants so their houses can be sold, disabled having to queue at WINZ and their permanent illnesses having to be investigated yearly etc etc. TPPA that gives many less future, Kids being expelled and excluded by schools and special schools being closed down. Mass surveillance and abuse of that to peaceful activists not the mythical Jihardi brides from Oz. 

Why not do something and write about that because it&#039;s happening here and now in our own country. Feminism was the focus in the 70&#039;s, ethnicity in the 80&#039;s.

For 30 fucking years we have been plagued by neoliberalism while the lefties get bogged down with identity politics and think if women, people of colour and those with different sexualities can get a few trivial gains then their job is done. 

Look around people have much bigger and major problems in the pipeline than Ezibuy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/reflections-on-racial-exclusion-in-an-ezibuy-catalogue/#comment-68739">simonm</a>.</p>
<p>+1 SIMONM, I too can&#8217;t sleep with the Ezibuy scandal and labelling of toilets. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure that Ezibuy representation would be just up Susan Devoy and NZ Human rights commission. I have noticed the more trivial the issue the more the establishment seems to be keen to take it on. </p>
<p>Serious human rights can then remain under the radar while human rights resources and media can focus on issues minor and one dimensional. The effect is to devalue the idea of human rights and make the public sceptical about them. </p>
<p>Atrocities in Afghanistan by our own forces for example&#8230; evicting state house tenants so their houses can be sold, disabled having to queue at WINZ and their permanent illnesses having to be investigated yearly etc etc. TPPA that gives many less future, Kids being expelled and excluded by schools and special schools being closed down. Mass surveillance and abuse of that to peaceful activists not the mythical Jihardi brides from Oz. </p>
<p>Why not do something and write about that because it&#8217;s happening here and now in our own country. Feminism was the focus in the 70&#8217;s, ethnicity in the 80&#8217;s.</p>
<p>For 30 fucking years we have been plagued by neoliberalism while the lefties get bogged down with identity politics and think if women, people of colour and those with different sexualities can get a few trivial gains then their job is done. </p>
<p>Look around people have much bigger and major problems in the pipeline than Ezibuy.</p>
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		By: Veritas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Veritas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2017 08:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This article is frightening facile. Must middle eastern women shun their cultural modesty so that Easyby can avert racist slurs from Western libs?]]></description>
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