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		By: Ian Kiddle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian Kiddle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2018 08:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/qa-review-ron-mark-a-hawks-hawk/#comment-84895&quot;&gt;Nitrium&lt;/a&gt;.

Here Here. In my opinion China is the lessor of two evils. They are expansionist in a way but they use trade as a lever and not the threat or actual use  of miliitary force to try and acheive dominance, as the USA does. We deserve an independent position on the world stage and  that requires us to jettison five eyes and adopt a self reliant attitude towards the world. Much easier than &quot;the powers that be&quot; would have us believe I think.
How much really valuable strategic information do we get from Five eyes? Fuck all. I get more from such commentators as Paul Craig Roberts, Harley Schlanger, Jim Willie and London Paul.
You may express your skepticism but I would bet my world view is more accurate than anyone relying on TV1, TV3, RNZ or if you are in government Five Eyes.Oh and then there is Russia. No threat to anyone but actually the one super power that has a &quot;live and let live &quot;international outlook. And that is why the mockingbird media we are subjected to daily demonize them at every opportunity.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/qa-review-ron-mark-a-hawks-hawk/#comment-84895">Nitrium</a>.</p>
<p>Here Here. In my opinion China is the lessor of two evils. They are expansionist in a way but they use trade as a lever and not the threat or actual use  of miliitary force to try and acheive dominance, as the USA does. We deserve an independent position on the world stage and  that requires us to jettison five eyes and adopt a self reliant attitude towards the world. Much easier than &#8220;the powers that be&#8221; would have us believe I think.<br />
How much really valuable strategic information do we get from Five eyes? Fuck all. I get more from such commentators as Paul Craig Roberts, Harley Schlanger, Jim Willie and London Paul.<br />
You may express your skepticism but I would bet my world view is more accurate than anyone relying on TV1, TV3, RNZ or if you are in government Five Eyes.Oh and then there is Russia. No threat to anyone but actually the one super power that has a &#8220;live and let live &#8220;international outlook. And that is why the mockingbird media we are subjected to daily demonize them at every opportunity.</p>
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		By: Exkiwiforces		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2018 08:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/qa-review-ron-mark-a-hawks-hawk/#comment-84899&quot;&gt;dennis D&lt;/a&gt;.

A direct attack on NZ is quite pointless from a military/ political POV unless the you are wanting to attack Oz as the logistics tail will long along with the amount of equipment and manpower required to mount the attack on NZ.

The Indirect attack on NZ will achieve the greatest affect IRT economy of means and effort to achieve the military and political goal of destroying NZ means to wage war or sustain it economic means in war or supporting its allies via its export of primary goods.

To achieve my endstate I will use:
Using 5 Direct Action Teams to attack-
The Hydro cracker at Marsden Pt and the unloading point or even better if there is a oil tanker alongside,
RNZAF Base Auckland main targets will be 5 and 6SQNs.
Devonport dockyard all ships alongside and if possible the drydock locks and last 
Both ends of the Cook Strait cable which will knock out about 60% of power supply to the Nth lsland and degrade power supply to the whole of the Nth lsland 
Submarines to attack NZ Sea Lane Of Communtions around NZ waters attacking all ships.
Laying of sea mines at all NZ ports. 
Cyber warfare attacks at major infrastructure aka dams, hospitals, power supply etc.
Conduct Bio Warfare at NZ primary producers aka foot and mouth, PSA M Bovis etc.

My total footprint in the ground in NZ will be between 120 and 200 personal with between 40-50% of my TOE conducting offensive operations with the rest providing logistics support. For Sea operations I will need a number Ocean going fishing trawlers of mine laying, recon, force extraction vessels. Between 15- 30 Submarines depending on what mth I will attack for surge operations and later reducing to about 5- 10 Submarines for ongoing operations.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/qa-review-ron-mark-a-hawks-hawk/#comment-84899">dennis D</a>.</p>
<p>A direct attack on NZ is quite pointless from a military/ political POV unless the you are wanting to attack Oz as the logistics tail will long along with the amount of equipment and manpower required to mount the attack on NZ.</p>
<p>The Indirect attack on NZ will achieve the greatest affect IRT economy of means and effort to achieve the military and political goal of destroying NZ means to wage war or sustain it economic means in war or supporting its allies via its export of primary goods.</p>
<p>To achieve my endstate I will use:<br />
Using 5 Direct Action Teams to attack-<br />
The Hydro cracker at Marsden Pt and the unloading point or even better if there is a oil tanker alongside,<br />
RNZAF Base Auckland main targets will be 5 and 6SQNs.<br />
Devonport dockyard all ships alongside and if possible the drydock locks and last<br />
Both ends of the Cook Strait cable which will knock out about 60% of power supply to the Nth lsland and degrade power supply to the whole of the Nth lsland<br />
Submarines to attack NZ Sea Lane Of Communtions around NZ waters attacking all ships.<br />
Laying of sea mines at all NZ ports.<br />
Cyber warfare attacks at major infrastructure aka dams, hospitals, power supply etc.<br />
Conduct Bio Warfare at NZ primary producers aka foot and mouth, PSA M Bovis etc.</p>
<p>My total footprint in the ground in NZ will be between 120 and 200 personal with between 40-50% of my TOE conducting offensive operations with the rest providing logistics support. For Sea operations I will need a number Ocean going fishing trawlers of mine laying, recon, force extraction vessels. Between 15- 30 Submarines depending on what mth I will attack for surge operations and later reducing to about 5- 10 Submarines for ongoing operations.</p>
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		By: Jack Ramaka		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2018 20:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The purchase of NZ Housing by Chinese National&#039;s is effectively purchases by the Chinese Government as these houses are basically owned by the Chinese Government if they wished to repossess them for whatever reason ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The purchase of NZ Housing by Chinese National&#8217;s is effectively purchases by the Chinese Government as these houses are basically owned by the Chinese Government if they wished to repossess them for whatever reason ?</p>
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		By: Jack Ramaka		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2018 20:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We here in NZ need to preserve our sovereignty, in the past 50-60 years we have had successive Governments prostituting ourselves to the likes of the USA, UK &#038; China ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We here in NZ need to preserve our sovereignty, in the past 50-60 years we have had successive Governments prostituting ourselves to the likes of the USA, UK &amp; China ?</p>
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		By: Michal		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2018 00:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/qa-review-ron-mark-a-hawks-hawk/#comment-84899&quot;&gt;dennis D&lt;/a&gt;.

Great comment.  Lets start standing up  and doing what we are good at negoitating peace agreements.  Problem is we have jumped to the bully boy of the worlds commands too many times.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/qa-review-ron-mark-a-hawks-hawk/#comment-84899">dennis D</a>.</p>
<p>Great comment.  Lets start standing up  and doing what we are good at negoitating peace agreements.  Problem is we have jumped to the bully boy of the worlds commands too many times.</p>
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		By: Michal		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2018 00:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Of course they have exerted influence on our politicians, you don&#039;t give large amounts of money to a party and not get someone back for it.  

But listening to Hooten and that Labour party hick on national radio this morning, talking about &#039;rogue states&#039;  when we know tht the biggest  rogue state in the world is the United States is sickening. Noam chomsky acknowledged that a long time ago.

Ron Mark is a war mongerer - when are we going to have proper surveillance of our fisheries - much more important.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course they have exerted influence on our politicians, you don&#8217;t give large amounts of money to a party and not get someone back for it.  </p>
<p>But listening to Hooten and that Labour party hick on national radio this morning, talking about &#8216;rogue states&#8217;  when we know tht the biggest  rogue state in the world is the United States is sickening. Noam chomsky acknowledged that a long time ago.</p>
<p>Ron Mark is a war mongerer &#8211; when are we going to have proper surveillance of our fisheries &#8211; much more important.</p>
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		By: Sam		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2018 23:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I only mention this because the U.S. Empire is fading. With out Trump the share market will tank along with any pretence of American exeptionalism. We can quibble about who&#039;s lawn gets mowed first or we can get on with the business of creating a viable middle class. 

Coming into the 21st century we were supposed to have a 3 frigate navy, F-16s, trade agreements with Polynesia, Micronesia and Melanesia, the GDP should have grown by 3% but we could barely manage 2% while selling out $6 billion every year to foreign financiers. 

Let&#039;s just get onto it sooner rather than later.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I only mention this because the U.S. Empire is fading. With out Trump the share market will tank along with any pretence of American exeptionalism. We can quibble about who&#8217;s lawn gets mowed first or we can get on with the business of creating a viable middle class. </p>
<p>Coming into the 21st century we were supposed to have a 3 frigate navy, F-16s, trade agreements with Polynesia, Micronesia and Melanesia, the GDP should have grown by 3% but we could barely manage 2% while selling out $6 billion every year to foreign financiers. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s just get onto it sooner rather than later.</p>
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		By: dennis D		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2018 08:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I cant see the logic of saying that if we want to escape the clutches of China, we must align ourselves with the USA. If we were attacked by China, would the US come to our aid? I think not.They wont risk all those body-bags just for a little country like NZ.
 And if we are on our own there is no point in increasing our defences. How long could we last, putting up the best possible defence? A week?  We need  to be absolutely neutral, like Switzerland and simply contribute to UN peacekeeping missions.This would indicate that we have no aggressive intent, and would not go to war simply to support the US.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cant see the logic of saying that if we want to escape the clutches of China, we must align ourselves with the USA. If we were attacked by China, would the US come to our aid? I think not.They wont risk all those body-bags just for a little country like NZ.<br />
 And if we are on our own there is no point in increasing our defences. How long could we last, putting up the best possible defence? A week?  We need  to be absolutely neutral, like Switzerland and simply contribute to UN peacekeeping missions.This would indicate that we have no aggressive intent, and would not go to war simply to support the US.</p>
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		By: Sam		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2018 07:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/qa-review-ron-mark-a-hawks-hawk/#comment-84897&quot;&gt;simonm&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s funny. I also get accused of being a capitalist apologist by the hard left, and now the hard right is chiming in with communist apologies. 

But in China they have learnt from Russia&#039;s Cold War failures to outspend the U.S by have the political will and resources to outspend the U.S.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/qa-review-ron-mark-a-hawks-hawk/#comment-84897">simonm</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s funny. I also get accused of being a capitalist apologist by the hard left, and now the hard right is chiming in with communist apologies. </p>
<p>But in China they have learnt from Russia&#8217;s Cold War failures to outspend the U.S by have the political will and resources to outspend the U.S.</p>
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		By: simonm		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2018 07:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Communists with money to spend on pet projects, and retirement fund sinecures to endow, are clearly more attractive than their Soviet predecessors.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Communists with money to spend on pet projects, and retirement fund sinecures to endow, are clearly more attractive than their Soviet predecessors.</p>
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