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		By: Frank Macskasy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank Macskasy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2014 10:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/crossing-the-line-what-lies-behind-the-surge-to-te-pati-maori/#comment-217533&quot;&gt;hetzer&lt;/a&gt;.

Gosman, you clown!

Since when are your right wing views any thing but based on a black and white perception of the world?!?!

You have the most cyclopean, mono-coloured, blinkered view of things than practically anyone else I&#039;ve read!

Jesus wept!! :-D]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/crossing-the-line-what-lies-behind-the-surge-to-te-pati-maori/#comment-217533">hetzer</a>.</p>
<p>Gosman, you clown!</p>
<p>Since when are your right wing views any thing but based on a black and white perception of the world?!?!</p>
<p>You have the most cyclopean, mono-coloured, blinkered view of things than practically anyone else I&#8217;ve read!</p>
<p>Jesus wept!! 😀</p>
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		By: Long Cool Sally		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2014 04:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/weep-fellow-kiwis-our-glorious-smug-hermit-kingdom-is-over-here-comes-hyper-tourism-migrant-worker-exploitation-international-student-scams-3/#comment-217144&quot;&gt;covid is pa&lt;/a&gt;.

well Gosman you&#039;re wrong. when i worked at weta for lord of the rings i was on an employment contract. i had paid annual holidays, paid days off for stat holidays, sick days, and worked a 10 hour day on a wage. 

not the case on the hobbit after the legislation was changed.

an apology any time soon would be fine. yanno.

about now...or a bit later, when you have time to pull your head out of your arse and stop spouting shit...:-)

when you don&#039;t know what you&#039;re talking about, i suggest the best advice would be to just shut your mouth for fear of being made look a fool.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/weep-fellow-kiwis-our-glorious-smug-hermit-kingdom-is-over-here-comes-hyper-tourism-migrant-worker-exploitation-international-student-scams-3/#comment-217144">covid is pa</a>.</p>
<p>well Gosman you&#8217;re wrong. when i worked at weta for lord of the rings i was on an employment contract. i had paid annual holidays, paid days off for stat holidays, sick days, and worked a 10 hour day on a wage. </p>
<p>not the case on the hobbit after the legislation was changed.</p>
<p>an apology any time soon would be fine. yanno.</p>
<p>about now&#8230;or a bit later, when you have time to pull your head out of your arse and stop spouting shit&#8230;:-)</p>
<p>when you don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re talking about, i suggest the best advice would be to just shut your mouth for fear of being made look a fool.</p>
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		By: Frank Macskasy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank Macskasy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2014 22:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/poor-people-they-just-need-to-buck-up-their-ideas-and-change-their-attitude-oh-wait-minute/#comment-2414&quot;&gt;Mike&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Mike says:	
April 30, 2014 at 7:56 pm	

This is exactly what Ms Bradley is talking about. Eva Bradley is obviously doing well in her chosen career and is a success in her own right. She attempts to impart a little free advice to those people struggling with their lot for one reason or another and what response does she get?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Crap.

That is utter sophistry on your part, Mike. I notice it is the last subterfuge of Right Wingers who have run out of  rational arguments.

It&#039;s not &lt;i&gt;a little free advice&lt;/i&gt; that this country needs. It is, 

1. Jobs

2. Fair wages

3. Good social services

4. Affordable housing/rents

5. Affordable electricity

6. Healthy, affordable food

That&#039;ll do for starters.

&lt;i&gt;A little free advice&lt;/i&gt; smacks of an ignorant, ill-informed young woman (and you, by the way) who has no idea what is going on around them.

As Herman Melville once said,


&lt;blockquote&gt;“Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well- warmed, and well-fed.” &lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/poor-people-they-just-need-to-buck-up-their-ideas-and-change-their-attitude-oh-wait-minute/#comment-2414">Mike</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>Mike says:<br />
April 30, 2014 at 7:56 pm	</p>
<p>This is exactly what Ms Bradley is talking about. Eva Bradley is obviously doing well in her chosen career and is a success in her own right. She attempts to impart a little free advice to those people struggling with their lot for one reason or another and what response does she get?</p></blockquote>
<p>Crap.</p>
<p>That is utter sophistry on your part, Mike. I notice it is the last subterfuge of Right Wingers who have run out of  rational arguments.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not <i>a little free advice</i> that this country needs. It is, </p>
<p>1. Jobs</p>
<p>2. Fair wages</p>
<p>3. Good social services</p>
<p>4. Affordable housing/rents</p>
<p>5. Affordable electricity</p>
<p>6. Healthy, affordable food</p>
<p>That&#8217;ll do for starters.</p>
<p><i>A little free advice</i> smacks of an ignorant, ill-informed young woman (and you, by the way) who has no idea what is going on around them.</p>
<p>As Herman Melville once said,</p>
<blockquote><p>“Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well- warmed, and well-fed.” </p></blockquote>
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		By: Frank Macskasy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank Macskasy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2014 22:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/poor-people-they-just-need-to-buck-up-their-ideas-and-change-their-attitude-oh-wait-minute/#comment-2495&quot;&gt;Mike&lt;/a&gt;.

Sorry, Mike, but your devotion to neo-liberalism is sadly misplaced.

It has been an unmitigated failure with;

1. entrenched high unemployment;

2. a growing underclass;

3. Falling home-ownership rates;

4. Lower and lower wages;

5. Greater state surveillance to monitor the poor; powerless; alienated; and disaffected;

6. Rising inequality.

I&#039;m not sure how you&#039;re measuring &quot;success&quot;, but so far the only &quot;trickle down&quot; is  the One Percent pissing on the rest of us. And while I have no moral judgement against &quot;golden showers&quot;, it ain&#039;t my thing.

Funny thing, Mike. Unless you are part of the top 1% I&#039;m not sure why you care so much for them and their wealth?

They sure as heck don&#039;t give a toss about you (except your money maybe).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/poor-people-they-just-need-to-buck-up-their-ideas-and-change-their-attitude-oh-wait-minute/#comment-2495">Mike</a>.</p>
<p>Sorry, Mike, but your devotion to neo-liberalism is sadly misplaced.</p>
<p>It has been an unmitigated failure with;</p>
<p>1. entrenched high unemployment;</p>
<p>2. a growing underclass;</p>
<p>3. Falling home-ownership rates;</p>
<p>4. Lower and lower wages;</p>
<p>5. Greater state surveillance to monitor the poor; powerless; alienated; and disaffected;</p>
<p>6. Rising inequality.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure how you&#8217;re measuring &#8220;success&#8221;, but so far the only &#8220;trickle down&#8221; is  the One Percent pissing on the rest of us. And while I have no moral judgement against &#8220;golden showers&#8221;, it ain&#8217;t my thing.</p>
<p>Funny thing, Mike. Unless you are part of the top 1% I&#8217;m not sure why you care so much for them and their wealth?</p>
<p>They sure as heck don&#8217;t give a toss about you (except your money maybe).</p>
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		By: Frank Macskasy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank Macskasy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2014 22:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/poor-people-they-just-need-to-buck-up-their-ideas-and-change-their-attitude-oh-wait-minute/#comment-2490&quot;&gt;Frank Macskasy&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Mike says:	
May 4, 2014 at 10:51 am	

Yes, I thought you were going to say that Mr Macskasy because I seem to have suddenly lost my right to free speech due to a comment or two not making it through moderation. &lt;/blockquote&gt;


Mike, it&#039;s not your right to free speech I&#039;m criticising - it&#039;s what you&#039;re saying with it.

And what you&#039;re saying is uniformed, prejudiced garbage.

I hope that&#039;s clear enough for you?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/poor-people-they-just-need-to-buck-up-their-ideas-and-change-their-attitude-oh-wait-minute/#comment-2490">Frank Macskasy</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>Mike says:<br />
May 4, 2014 at 10:51 am	</p>
<p>Yes, I thought you were going to say that Mr Macskasy because I seem to have suddenly lost my right to free speech due to a comment or two not making it through moderation. </p></blockquote>
<p>Mike, it&#8217;s not your right to free speech I&#8217;m criticising &#8211; it&#8217;s what you&#8217;re saying with it.</p>
<p>And what you&#8217;re saying is uniformed, prejudiced garbage.</p>
<p>I hope that&#8217;s clear enough for you?</p>
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		By: Frank Macskasy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank Macskasy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2014 22:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/poor-people-they-just-need-to-buck-up-their-ideas-and-change-their-attitude-oh-wait-minute/#comment-2429&quot;&gt;Mike&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Mike says:	
May 1, 2014 at 8:19 am	

[...]

State support. If you mean a ‘free’ university education, I am of the opinion that you are just trying to ‘stir the pot’ in a political point scoring fashion. There is a myriad of state support available these days. Benefits related to employment, marital status, veterans and number of dependants to name a few. There are grants to cover subjects such as special occasions, relationship break ups, home insulation, travel, doctors visits and even gender reassignment. There are top-ups to cover things like rent costs, unforeseen situations from fridge breakdowns to house fires and school uniforms. Then there are ‘free’ doctor and dental visits for children, 50-80% regional council subsidies on bus travel, 70% subsidies on the price of a swim in almost all council run public swimming pools and libraries in the country. Not to mention access to museums, parks and recreation and public playground facilities, all installed ‘for the public good’ and subsidised by the taxpayer and ratepayer.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


You&#039;ve never had to access state support (eg; WINZ), have you, Mike?

Do you even know what the unemployment benefit pays?

Oh, and referring to &quot;access to museums, parks and recreation and public playground facilities&quot; I&#039;m sure is very helpful to struggling families trying to pay rent, power, phone, food, etc, on pitiful income.

You might as well say, &quot;Let them eat cake&quot;.

You simply have no clue how the &quot;Other Half&quot; live, do you?

Neither does that very foolish woman, Eva whatshername.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/poor-people-they-just-need-to-buck-up-their-ideas-and-change-their-attitude-oh-wait-minute/#comment-2429">Mike</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>Mike says:<br />
May 1, 2014 at 8:19 am	</p>
<p>[&#8230;]</p>
<p>State support. If you mean a ‘free’ university education, I am of the opinion that you are just trying to ‘stir the pot’ in a political point scoring fashion. There is a myriad of state support available these days. Benefits related to employment, marital status, veterans and number of dependants to name a few. There are grants to cover subjects such as special occasions, relationship break ups, home insulation, travel, doctors visits and even gender reassignment. There are top-ups to cover things like rent costs, unforeseen situations from fridge breakdowns to house fires and school uniforms. Then there are ‘free’ doctor and dental visits for children, 50-80% regional council subsidies on bus travel, 70% subsidies on the price of a swim in almost all council run public swimming pools and libraries in the country. Not to mention access to museums, parks and recreation and public playground facilities, all installed ‘for the public good’ and subsidised by the taxpayer and ratepayer.</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;ve never had to access state support (eg; WINZ), have you, Mike?</p>
<p>Do you even know what the unemployment benefit pays?</p>
<p>Oh, and referring to &#8220;access to museums, parks and recreation and public playground facilities&#8221; I&#8217;m sure is very helpful to struggling families trying to pay rent, power, phone, food, etc, on pitiful income.</p>
<p>You might as well say, &#8220;Let them eat cake&#8221;.</p>
<p>You simply have no clue how the &#8220;Other Half&#8221; live, do you?</p>
<p>Neither does that very foolish woman, Eva whatshername.</p>
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		By: Frank Macskasy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank Macskasy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2014 22:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/heres-why-aloha-luxons-hawaii-holiday-is-politically-damaging/#comment-216507&quot;&gt;Trevor&lt;/a&gt;.

@ Anonymous National-ACT Supporter Intrinsicvalue; the problem is that you continue to distort other people&#039;s statements. Your comment at May 1, 2014 at 7:10 pm is a sheer distortion (as usual from you),

 &lt;blockquote&gt;Actually there were 452,000 jobs created between 2008 and 2011 ...  so that committment was well and truly met. The problem is that due to the GFC and the recession NZ was already moving into prior to it, NZ lost 465,000 jobs in the same period. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

What the article actually stated was,

 &lt;blockquote&gt;These showed nearly 452,000 jobs created between 2008 -2011 but almost 465,000 were lost. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Your insertion of  &quot; the GFC and the recession NZ was already moving into prior to it&quot; is one of your regular lies that you promote on this blog. (Dunno why - you get challenged on it every time and revealed as a fabrication).

Interesting, you left out this bit from the article you linked to,


&lt;blockquote&gt;We need around 30,000 new jobs a year to accommodate population growth. In the 2011/12 June year we fell far short of that with just 13,000 new jobs.

The HLFS shows employment growth (57,000 new jobs) averaging 1.3 percent a year in the two years to June 2012. But 44,000 of those jobs were recorded in 2010/11 (two percent growth). In the latest June year, the growth fell to 0.58 percent (and the population increased 0.63 percent). &lt;/blockquote&gt;

As usual, Anonymous National-ACT Supporter Intrinsicvalue, one has to check the information you present for what you leave out, rather than what you give.

National has failed at job creation, and the promise of 170,000 new jobs has not eventuated.

Despite the HLFS March Quarter unemployment expected to fall, the question is, what is happening to under-employment? Are the  unemployed simply shifting to the under-employed category, where is you work one hour a week (or more), whether paid or unpaid, you are officially counted as &quot;employed&quot;?

Source: http://www.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_stats/income-and-work/employment_and_unemployment/HouseholdLabourForceSurvey_HOTPDec13qtr/Definitions.aspx]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/heres-why-aloha-luxons-hawaii-holiday-is-politically-damaging/#comment-216507">Trevor</a>.</p>
<p>@ Anonymous National-ACT Supporter Intrinsicvalue; the problem is that you continue to distort other people&#8217;s statements. Your comment at May 1, 2014 at 7:10 pm is a sheer distortion (as usual from you),</p>
<blockquote><p>Actually there were 452,000 jobs created between 2008 and 2011 &#8230;  so that committment was well and truly met. The problem is that due to the GFC and the recession NZ was already moving into prior to it, NZ lost 465,000 jobs in the same period. </p></blockquote>
<p>What the article actually stated was,</p>
<blockquote><p>These showed nearly 452,000 jobs created between 2008 -2011 but almost 465,000 were lost. </p></blockquote>
<p>Your insertion of  &#8221; the GFC and the recession NZ was already moving into prior to it&#8221; is one of your regular lies that you promote on this blog. (Dunno why &#8211; you get challenged on it every time and revealed as a fabrication).</p>
<p>Interesting, you left out this bit from the article you linked to,</p>
<blockquote><p>We need around 30,000 new jobs a year to accommodate population growth. In the 2011/12 June year we fell far short of that with just 13,000 new jobs.</p>
<p>The HLFS shows employment growth (57,000 new jobs) averaging 1.3 percent a year in the two years to June 2012. But 44,000 of those jobs were recorded in 2010/11 (two percent growth). In the latest June year, the growth fell to 0.58 percent (and the population increased 0.63 percent). </p></blockquote>
<p>As usual, Anonymous National-ACT Supporter Intrinsicvalue, one has to check the information you present for what you leave out, rather than what you give.</p>
<p>National has failed at job creation, and the promise of 170,000 new jobs has not eventuated.</p>
<p>Despite the HLFS March Quarter unemployment expected to fall, the question is, what is happening to under-employment? Are the  unemployed simply shifting to the under-employed category, where is you work one hour a week (or more), whether paid or unpaid, you are officially counted as &#8220;employed&#8221;?</p>
<p>Source: <a href="http://www.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_stats/income-and-work/employment_and_unemployment/HouseholdLabourForceSurvey_HOTPDec13qtr/Definitions.aspx" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_stats/income-and-work/employment_and_unemployment/HouseholdLabourForceSurvey_HOTPDec13qtr/Definitions.aspx</a></p>
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		By: Frank Macskasy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank Macskasy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2014 22:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/poor-people-they-just-need-to-buck-up-their-ideas-and-change-their-attitude-oh-wait-minute/#comment-2493&quot;&gt;Frank Macskasy&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, sunshine, let&#039;s focus on new Zealand then, shall we, rather than falling into your little pointless diversions.

As I pointed out above, official unemployment has been falling whilst under-employment has been rising.

Under-employment, as defined by Statistics NZ;

 &lt;blockquote&gt; Employed: people in the working-age population who, during the reference week, did one of the following:

* worked for one hour or more for pay or profit in the context of an employee/employer relationship or self-employment

* worked without pay for one hour or more in work which contributed directly to the operation of a farm, business, or professional practice owned or operated by a relative

* had a job but were not at work due to: own illness or injury, personal or family responsibilities, bad weather or mechanical breakdown, direct involvement in an industrial dispute, or leave or holiday.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Source: http://www.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_stats/income-and-work/employment_and_unemployment/HouseholdLabourForceSurvey_HOTPDec13qtr/Definitions.aspx

As I pointed out – and which you’ve pointedly ignored (too inconvenient?), under-employment has risen;

 &lt;blockquote&gt;“Over the year, the total number of under-employed people increased by 27,200 to 122,600. As a result, the under-employment rate increased 1.0 percentage points to 5.3 percent. “&lt;/blockquote&gt;    

Source: http://www.stats.govt.nz/~/media/Statistics/Browse%20for%20stats/HouseholdLabourForceSurvey/HOTPDec13qtr/HouseholdLabourForceSurveyDec13qtrHOTP.pdf

So, never mind about diversions to France, Finland, or Fiji,  - focus on our own country, Gosman.

Even someone like you has to admit that if unemployment is falling and underemployment is rising, the figures for the former are questionable?

It&#039;s not a difficult question, Gosman. No research required, just a bit of clear thinking.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/poor-people-they-just-need-to-buck-up-their-ideas-and-change-their-attitude-oh-wait-minute/#comment-2493">Frank Macskasy</a>.</p>
<p>Well, sunshine, let&#8217;s focus on new Zealand then, shall we, rather than falling into your little pointless diversions.</p>
<p>As I pointed out above, official unemployment has been falling whilst under-employment has been rising.</p>
<p>Under-employment, as defined by Statistics NZ;</p>
<blockquote><p> Employed: people in the working-age population who, during the reference week, did one of the following:</p>
<p>* worked for one hour or more for pay or profit in the context of an employee/employer relationship or self-employment</p>
<p>* worked without pay for one hour or more in work which contributed directly to the operation of a farm, business, or professional practice owned or operated by a relative</p>
<p>* had a job but were not at work due to: own illness or injury, personal or family responsibilities, bad weather or mechanical breakdown, direct involvement in an industrial dispute, or leave or holiday.</p>
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<p>Source: <a href="http://www.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_stats/income-and-work/employment_and_unemployment/HouseholdLabourForceSurvey_HOTPDec13qtr/Definitions.aspx" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_stats/income-and-work/employment_and_unemployment/HouseholdLabourForceSurvey_HOTPDec13qtr/Definitions.aspx</a></p>
<p>As I pointed out – and which you’ve pointedly ignored (too inconvenient?), under-employment has risen;</p>
<blockquote><p>“Over the year, the total number of under-employed people increased by 27,200 to 122,600. As a result, the under-employment rate increased 1.0 percentage points to 5.3 percent. “</p></blockquote>
<p>Source: <a href="http://www.stats.govt.nz/~/media/Statistics/Browse%20for%20stats/HouseholdLabourForceSurvey/HOTPDec13qtr/HouseholdLabourForceSurveyDec13qtrHOTP.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.stats.govt.nz/~/media/Statistics/Browse%20for%20stats/HouseholdLabourForceSurvey/HOTPDec13qtr/HouseholdLabourForceSurveyDec13qtrHOTP.pdf</a></p>
<p>So, never mind about diversions to France, Finland, or Fiji,  &#8211; focus on our own country, Gosman.</p>
<p>Even someone like you has to admit that if unemployment is falling and underemployment is rising, the figures for the former are questionable?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a difficult question, Gosman. No research required, just a bit of clear thinking.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/the-daily-blog-open-mic-26th-july-2022/#comment-216286&quot;&gt;Greywarbler&lt;/a&gt;.

*yawn* More static...]]></description>
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<p>*yawn* More static&#8230;</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/weep-fellow-kiwis-our-glorious-smug-hermit-kingdom-is-over-here-comes-hyper-tourism-migrant-worker-exploitation-international-student-scams-3/#comment-217144&quot;&gt;covid is pa&lt;/a&gt;.

Can you prove that Gosman?

Or are you just making it up (again), as you go along?

And are you capable of independent thought rather than parroting the official National-ACT Party line?]]></description>
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<p>Can you prove that Gosman?</p>
<p>Or are you just making it up (again), as you go along?</p>
<p>And are you capable of independent thought rather than parroting the official National-ACT Party line?</p>
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