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		By: fatty		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fatty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2014 09:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/pharrell-a-new-brand-of-feminism/#comment-2393&quot;&gt;kiwi_guy&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m not going to get into a Zizek-Chomsky styled debate with you.
I agree that post-structuralist thought emerged from Paris. And some theorists had subscribed to Maoist/Stalinist communism...but not all, for example post-Marxists influenced by Gramsci and the Frankfurt school etc.
The result of such a discussion would go nowhere. You&#039;d continue to wave your old white cock around proudly as you rant on with your reductive drivel. That&#039;s not something I want to engage with sorry.

I never attacked Chomsky&#039;s character - I just said he offers little more than wikipedia does. That&#039;s not an insult. Look through your previous comments to find the character assassinations, then maybe sign up to an anger management support groups.

Your process of simplification is insanely boring. Most of us moved on from that years ago. You&#039;ll catch up, just keep reading]]></description>
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<p>I&#8217;m not going to get into a Zizek-Chomsky styled debate with you.<br />
I agree that post-structuralist thought emerged from Paris. And some theorists had subscribed to Maoist/Stalinist communism&#8230;but not all, for example post-Marxists influenced by Gramsci and the Frankfurt school etc.<br />
The result of such a discussion would go nowhere. You&#8217;d continue to wave your old white cock around proudly as you rant on with your reductive drivel. That&#8217;s not something I want to engage with sorry.</p>
<p>I never attacked Chomsky&#8217;s character &#8211; I just said he offers little more than wikipedia does. That&#8217;s not an insult. Look through your previous comments to find the character assassinations, then maybe sign up to an anger management support groups.</p>
<p>Your process of simplification is insanely boring. Most of us moved on from that years ago. You&#8217;ll catch up, just keep reading</p>
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		By: Chloe King		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chloe King]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2014 05:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/pharrell-a-new-brand-of-feminism/#comment-2394&quot;&gt;kiwi_guy&lt;/a&gt;.

Dr Heldman worked to gather the info to come up with that stat.]]></description>
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<p>Dr Heldman worked to gather the info to come up with that stat.</p>
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		By: kiwi_guy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kiwi_guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2014 05:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/pharrell-a-new-brand-of-feminism/#comment-2391&quot;&gt;Chloe King&lt;/a&gt;.

You are missing the point. 

Poor Ms Green was the victim of a witch hunt by the Social Justice Warriors. Her desperate efforts to appease the mob and assure them she was one of them only enraged them further, until she fled the internet to escape the bulling and death threats. Psycho stuff.

This is reminiscent of the Marxist derived Maoist Cultural Revolution where &quot;denunciation meetings&quot; and &quot;struggle sessions&quot; were held and victims humiliated, tortured publicly and forced to confess to &quot;counter revolutionary&quot; thoughts and acts, or of being &quot;capitalist roaders&quot;.

Lucky the mob that attacked Laci don&#039;t have that power but they have exactly the same state of mind.

Of course the usual appeal to emotion is employed to rationalise it - &quot;We are fighting oppression! We are fighting for Social Justice!&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/pharrell-a-new-brand-of-feminism/#comment-2391">Chloe King</a>.</p>
<p>You are missing the point. </p>
<p>Poor Ms Green was the victim of a witch hunt by the Social Justice Warriors. Her desperate efforts to appease the mob and assure them she was one of them only enraged them further, until she fled the internet to escape the bulling and death threats. Psycho stuff.</p>
<p>This is reminiscent of the Marxist derived Maoist Cultural Revolution where &#8220;denunciation meetings&#8221; and &#8220;struggle sessions&#8221; were held and victims humiliated, tortured publicly and forced to confess to &#8220;counter revolutionary&#8221; thoughts and acts, or of being &#8220;capitalist roaders&#8221;.</p>
<p>Lucky the mob that attacked Laci don&#8217;t have that power but they have exactly the same state of mind.</p>
<p>Of course the usual appeal to emotion is employed to rationalise it &#8211; &#8220;We are fighting oppression! We are fighting for Social Justice!&#8221;</p>
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		By: kiwi_guy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kiwi_guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2014 04:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/pharrell-a-new-brand-of-feminism/#comment-2389&quot;&gt;Chloe King&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;I think it is interesting people are ripping apart my stats&quot;

That is interesting because I have been trying repeatedly to reply to your defense of the 96% claim above but whoever is moderating is not allowing me to reply. Again the 96% is from where? - no research cited, just assertions on youtube. You got serious problems with your 1 in 4 stat too. 

And then you make an appeal to emotion, apparently no one is allowed to question the robustness of the  stats you present because you are fighting a good war against oppression or something.

&quot;[issues] that desperately need informed intelligent conversation.&quot;

You aren&#039;t going to get informed conversation using dubious stats.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/pharrell-a-new-brand-of-feminism/#comment-2389">Chloe King</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;I think it is interesting people are ripping apart my stats&#8221;</p>
<p>That is interesting because I have been trying repeatedly to reply to your defense of the 96% claim above but whoever is moderating is not allowing me to reply. Again the 96% is from where? &#8211; no research cited, just assertions on youtube. You got serious problems with your 1 in 4 stat too. </p>
<p>And then you make an appeal to emotion, apparently no one is allowed to question the robustness of the  stats you present because you are fighting a good war against oppression or something.</p>
<p>&#8220;[issues] that desperately need informed intelligent conversation.&#8221;</p>
<p>You aren&#8217;t going to get informed conversation using dubious stats.</p>
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		By: kiwi_guy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kiwi_guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2014 04:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/pharrell-a-new-brand-of-feminism/#comment-2388&quot;&gt;fatty&lt;/a&gt;.

Interestingly you don&#039;t actually rebut any of the points I or Chomsky make, instead engaging in character assassination. Seems you don&#039;t know what philosophy actually is.

These &quot;circles&quot; you &quot;hang out in&quot; are obviously Deconstructionist / PoMo echo chambers, where sophistry is practiced, not philosophy.]]></description>
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<p>Interestingly you don&#8217;t actually rebut any of the points I or Chomsky make, instead engaging in character assassination. Seems you don&#8217;t know what philosophy actually is.</p>
<p>These &#8220;circles&#8221; you &#8220;hang out in&#8221; are obviously Deconstructionist / PoMo echo chambers, where sophistry is practiced, not philosophy.</p>
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		By: kiwi_guy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kiwi_guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2014 04:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/pharrell-a-new-brand-of-feminism/#comment-2386&quot;&gt;Chloe King&lt;/a&gt;.

You did not link the 96% claim to any research. 

You link to a TED talk by the feminist Heldman who asserts the claim with no reference to research or a source - her own or 

anybody else.

Laci Green makes the 96% claim without referring to any research or source - Heldman is not cited.

Any google result on the figure produces only a reference back to assertions by Ms Heldman or Ms Green, not to any kind of 

research project.

&quot;and errrrrrrrrr really? Yeah of course it was a massive research project how do you think we get any stat?&quot;

Great, so you could give a link to this research project or source or some kind of summary of it, other than another 

feminist making an unreferenced assertion on youtube?

That 1 in 4 claim comes from a 1985 Ms Magazine about USA campus students. How is this suppose to apply to all countries or 

even just Western ones? Or even to USA national figures? Does this 1985 stat apply today - anywhere?

The definition of &#039;sexual assault&#039; was so inclusive and the questions so ambiguous in that survey that only 27% of the 

supposed rape victims  believed they were raped. 42% of them continued to have sexual relations with their supposed 

attacker.

The reality is that 1 in 4 stat is inaccurate and is misused.]]></description>
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<p>You did not link the 96% claim to any research. </p>
<p>You link to a TED talk by the feminist Heldman who asserts the claim with no reference to research or a source &#8211; her own or </p>
<p>anybody else.</p>
<p>Laci Green makes the 96% claim without referring to any research or source &#8211; Heldman is not cited.</p>
<p>Any google result on the figure produces only a reference back to assertions by Ms Heldman or Ms Green, not to any kind of </p>
<p>research project.</p>
<p>&#8220;and errrrrrrrrr really? Yeah of course it was a massive research project how do you think we get any stat?&#8221;</p>
<p>Great, so you could give a link to this research project or source or some kind of summary of it, other than another </p>
<p>feminist making an unreferenced assertion on youtube?</p>
<p>That 1 in 4 claim comes from a 1985 Ms Magazine about USA campus students. How is this suppose to apply to all countries or </p>
<p>even just Western ones? Or even to USA national figures? Does this 1985 stat apply today &#8211; anywhere?</p>
<p>The definition of &#8216;sexual assault&#8217; was so inclusive and the questions so ambiguous in that survey that only 27% of the </p>
<p>supposed rape victims  believed they were raped. 42% of them continued to have sexual relations with their supposed </p>
<p>attacker.</p>
<p>The reality is that 1 in 4 stat is inaccurate and is misused.</p>
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		By: Chloe King		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chloe King]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2014 19:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/pharrell-a-new-brand-of-feminism/#comment-2390&quot;&gt;Chloe King&lt;/a&gt;.

...and p.s most people have said ignorant/sexist/racist/phobic shit at some point in their lives, a lot of the comments on here are shining examples of inherent sexism the only difference if you not not receive death threats, threats of violence and other shit. Those actions are just as bad as Laci Green saying dumb transphobic/islamophobic stuff. Call people on their bullshit but do not threaten their safety or their lives. Because two wrongs certainly do not make a right.]]></description>
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<p>&#8230;and p.s most people have said ignorant/sexist/racist/phobic shit at some point in their lives, a lot of the comments on here are shining examples of inherent sexism the only difference if you not not receive death threats, threats of violence and other shit. Those actions are just as bad as Laci Green saying dumb transphobic/islamophobic stuff. Call people on their bullshit but do not threaten their safety or their lives. Because two wrongs certainly do not make a right.</p>
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		By: Chloe King		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chloe King]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2014 19:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/pharrell-a-new-brand-of-feminism/#comment-2389&quot;&gt;Chloe King&lt;/a&gt;.

oh and most female journalists/bloggers often get death threats esp. if they write on topics like feminism, women&#039;s rights, ect. they are often the targets of cybersexism and cyberbullying, Laurie Penny has spoken out about it a fair bit (she even wrote a book on it). Many people who write in defense and for Palestine also receive death threats it really depends what you lend your pen to.]]></description>
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<p>oh and most female journalists/bloggers often get death threats esp. if they write on topics like feminism, women&#8217;s rights, ect. they are often the targets of cybersexism and cyberbullying, Laurie Penny has spoken out about it a fair bit (she even wrote a book on it). Many people who write in defense and for Palestine also receive death threats it really depends what you lend your pen to.</p>
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		By: Chloe King		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chloe King]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2014 19:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/pharrell-a-new-brand-of-feminism/#comment-2387&quot;&gt;kiwi_guy&lt;/a&gt;.

yeah I have been reading about that, personally as someone who  has a lot of friends in the LBGTCQ community who talk to me a lot about the  prejudices they have to endure, I am not overly cool with anyone who shows those prejudices. I cited Laci Green because she is a well known and by alot of people, respected person. Many journalists and bloggers often say dumb shit without realizing it, John Pilger for example is incredibly misogynistic but he gets a lot less shit about it. 

I think it is interesting people are ripping apart my stats or basically telling me women have equal rights now (wow you got to be some kind of stupid to believe that shit) and not discussing toxic masculinity or any of the other points I raised that desperately need informed intelligent conversation.]]></description>
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<p>yeah I have been reading about that, personally as someone who  has a lot of friends in the LBGTCQ community who talk to me a lot about the  prejudices they have to endure, I am not overly cool with anyone who shows those prejudices. I cited Laci Green because she is a well known and by alot of people, respected person. Many journalists and bloggers often say dumb shit without realizing it, John Pilger for example is incredibly misogynistic but he gets a lot less shit about it. </p>
<p>I think it is interesting people are ripping apart my stats or basically telling me women have equal rights now (wow you got to be some kind of stupid to believe that shit) and not discussing toxic masculinity or any of the other points I raised that desperately need informed intelligent conversation.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fatty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2014 01:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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...and we have a Chomsky critique of theory and continental philosophy...how predictable.
Chomsky is a nice guy, and got a big brain on him, but it&#039;s a shame he doesn&#039;t put it to use. Chomsky is hardly a philosopher, he&#039;s just a walking Wikipedia...and since we all have wiki in our pockets now, and can look up any statistic in two minutes, people like Chomsky are now redundant.
Chomsky is bitter that technology makes him more or less pointless these days. 
I guess I hang out in different circles because Marxist philosophy is not in a malaise at the moment, in fact it&#039;s been building momentum all over the place - and only getting stronger. If you&#039;re waiting for the return of the 1950s version of Marxism, it ain&#039;t gonna happen. 
I&#039;m not really sure why you&#039;d bother to turn up on this page and display such irrational and ill-informed anger. Is your identity a white male Marxist?...if it is then I get the malaise comment]]></description>
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<p>&#8230;and we have a Chomsky critique of theory and continental philosophy&#8230;how predictable.<br />
Chomsky is a nice guy, and got a big brain on him, but it&#8217;s a shame he doesn&#8217;t put it to use. Chomsky is hardly a philosopher, he&#8217;s just a walking Wikipedia&#8230;and since we all have wiki in our pockets now, and can look up any statistic in two minutes, people like Chomsky are now redundant.<br />
Chomsky is bitter that technology makes him more or less pointless these days.<br />
I guess I hang out in different circles because Marxist philosophy is not in a malaise at the moment, in fact it&#8217;s been building momentum all over the place &#8211; and only getting stronger. If you&#8217;re waiting for the return of the 1950s version of Marxism, it ain&#8217;t gonna happen.<br />
I&#8217;m not really sure why you&#8217;d bother to turn up on this page and display such irrational and ill-informed anger. Is your identity a white male Marxist?&#8230;if it is then I get the malaise comment</p>
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