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	Comments on: Not Quite An Act Of War: Analysing Australia’s Push-Back Against Jacinda’s Manus Island Outreach	</title>
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		By: Bully Beef and Chips		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bully Beef and Chips]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Agree. If Jacinda wants a second term, globalist virtue signalling and naive idealism is not the way to get it. NZ has problems of its own without importing them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree. If Jacinda wants a second term, globalist virtue signalling and naive idealism is not the way to get it. NZ has problems of its own without importing them.</p>
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		By: Andrea		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrea]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2017 09:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;New Zealand harbours a frighteningly large number of racists.&quot; From many backgrounds and ethnicities, too.

We have a fair number of wasps, also.   And the place is over-run with litterbugs.

C&#039;mon Chris.  That&#039;s frighteningly vague.  Who are these people - and who do they influence?  What are the consequences of their outpourings on minor radio stations?  How do we know?  And is anyone responsible for ensuring the sewage doesn&#039;t meet the freshwater supply?  (So to speak.)

I know that the word &#039;racist&#039; has now morphed to include aversions and distaste for assorted religions - probably because xenophobia is too hard to spell, and parochialism is a toughie, too.  And claiming it&#039;s all &#039;anti-Christian&#039; by the &#039;once a year, and maybe funerals&#039; crowd is just asking for splats on the windscreen.

It&#039;s just the usual partisan fears of loss and differentness parading as nationalism.  We&#039;ve been doing it for centuries in this country.

What is clearly on show are the limits of our parliamentary system.  There&#039;s too much self-interest which readily comes ahead of the needs of the country.

Time to clean the Augean stables in the Beehive, for sure.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;New Zealand harbours a frighteningly large number of racists.&#8221; From many backgrounds and ethnicities, too.</p>
<p>We have a fair number of wasps, also.   And the place is over-run with litterbugs.</p>
<p>C&#8217;mon Chris.  That&#8217;s frighteningly vague.  Who are these people &#8211; and who do they influence?  What are the consequences of their outpourings on minor radio stations?  How do we know?  And is anyone responsible for ensuring the sewage doesn&#8217;t meet the freshwater supply?  (So to speak.)</p>
<p>I know that the word &#8216;racist&#8217; has now morphed to include aversions and distaste for assorted religions &#8211; probably because xenophobia is too hard to spell, and parochialism is a toughie, too.  And claiming it&#8217;s all &#8216;anti-Christian&#8217; by the &#8216;once a year, and maybe funerals&#8217; crowd is just asking for splats on the windscreen.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just the usual partisan fears of loss and differentness parading as nationalism.  We&#8217;ve been doing it for centuries in this country.</p>
<p>What is clearly on show are the limits of our parliamentary system.  There&#8217;s too much self-interest which readily comes ahead of the needs of the country.</p>
<p>Time to clean the Augean stables in the Beehive, for sure.</p>
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		By: Anthony		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anthony]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2017 09:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Until reading further, I was thinking he opening paragraphs were about Chris Hipkins and Barnaby Joyce]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Until reading further, I was thinking he opening paragraphs were about Chris Hipkins and Barnaby Joyce</p>
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		By: OCON		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OCON]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2017 08:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Chris. You criticise the Australian government for its &quot;extraordinarily provocative act&quot; towards NZ and the damage it may cause to the relationship between our two countries.

From Australia&#039;s perspective it may equally be the view that Adern&#039;s comments on the Manus Island refugees and her pontification on the matter from the moral high ground as also &#039;extraordinarily provocative&quot;. 

Given that the Australians are likely to view this as interfering in their domestic politics, would not they feel, with some justification, that we are meddling in a way that has the potential to damage the relationship between our two countries.

Adern should be mindful of untended consequences. For instance if NZder&#039;s &#039;rights&#039; to enter Australia are weakened or taken away altogether;most NZders will be pretty pissed off. If NZders rights are reduced in value, whilst the &#039;right&#039;s of Manus Island refugees are increased in value (i.e. they can enter NZ) - then this government will put itself at serious risk of not being re elected in 2020 (if it lasts that long).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris. You criticise the Australian government for its &#8220;extraordinarily provocative act&#8221; towards NZ and the damage it may cause to the relationship between our two countries.</p>
<p>From Australia&#8217;s perspective it may equally be the view that Adern&#8217;s comments on the Manus Island refugees and her pontification on the matter from the moral high ground as also &#8216;extraordinarily provocative&#8221;. </p>
<p>Given that the Australians are likely to view this as interfering in their domestic politics, would not they feel, with some justification, that we are meddling in a way that has the potential to damage the relationship between our two countries.</p>
<p>Adern should be mindful of untended consequences. For instance if NZder&#8217;s &#8216;rights&#8217; to enter Australia are weakened or taken away altogether;most NZders will be pretty pissed off. If NZders rights are reduced in value, whilst the &#8216;right&#8217;s of Manus Island refugees are increased in value (i.e. they can enter NZ) &#8211; then this government will put itself at serious risk of not being re elected in 2020 (if it lasts that long).</p>
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		By: Andrea		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrea]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2017 08:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Didn&#039;t John Key the Great Bloke make the offer first?  Virtue signalling in his own cute-gauche fashion?

Didn&#039;t notice him wandering about like a spare ghost at the castle - head on platter.

Or doesn&#039;t this apply to undersized persons - and the political innocent that was Key had no lessons to learn?  Aw jeez, mate he wuz a natural!  Yeah, right.

PM Ardern has probably been in politics for a whole lot longer than John Key - and she has smarter mentors.  Nor does she come with the sobriquet &#039;Smiling Assassin&#039;.  Unless you think that&#039;s an endearing title for the head of the country, and you yearn for the Strong Chap assertiveness of the likes of Duterte?

Go back to screaming at the telly, Alf.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t John Key the Great Bloke make the offer first?  Virtue signalling in his own cute-gauche fashion?</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t notice him wandering about like a spare ghost at the castle &#8211; head on platter.</p>
<p>Or doesn&#8217;t this apply to undersized persons &#8211; and the political innocent that was Key had no lessons to learn?  Aw jeez, mate he wuz a natural!  Yeah, right.</p>
<p>PM Ardern has probably been in politics for a whole lot longer than John Key &#8211; and she has smarter mentors.  Nor does she come with the sobriquet &#8216;Smiling Assassin&#8217;.  Unless you think that&#8217;s an endearing title for the head of the country, and you yearn for the Strong Chap assertiveness of the likes of Duterte?</p>
<p>Go back to screaming at the telly, Alf.</p>
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		By: Sally's Husband		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sally's Husband]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2017 03:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;For a supposedly friendly government to deliberately inject inflammatory disinformation into the political bloodstream of its supposedly closest neighbour is an extraordinarily provocative act. Not quite an act of war, but the sort of intervention that can all-too-easily provoke a catastrophic loss of trust.&quot;

The bullshit from Australia reminds me of the babies-overboard lies told by the Australian government to demonise the Tampa refugees. Quite simply, the Aussies are not to be trusted. They make John Key look almost honest by comparison.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;For a supposedly friendly government to deliberately inject inflammatory disinformation into the political bloodstream of its supposedly closest neighbour is an extraordinarily provocative act. Not quite an act of war, but the sort of intervention that can all-too-easily provoke a catastrophic loss of trust.&#8221;</p>
<p>The bullshit from Australia reminds me of the babies-overboard lies told by the Australian government to demonise the Tampa refugees. Quite simply, the Aussies are not to be trusted. They make John Key look almost honest by comparison.</p>
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		By: Jeff Foley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Foley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2017 01:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was revolted by Guyon Espiner&#039;s soppy treatment of &quot;witness Ian&quot; on RNZ&#039;s Checkpoint last Friday evening - so much so that I turned the radio off just before Espiner brought on some National Party spokesperson.
Witness Ian was so blatantly a liar - you could hear it in his voice, and in his concocted answers to Espiner&#039;s pathetic inquiry. I found myself willing Espiner to ask Ian what was motivating him ... surely not some genuine concern for New Zealand.

Witness Ian&#039;s fake account was sickeningly similar to a certain &quot;witness&quot; interviewed back in 2006 on ABC&#039;s current affairs program, Lateline. The man, face concealed, introduced as a youth worker who had been living in Mutitjulu (an aboriginal community), told of how drunk, aboriginal fathers were sexually abusing their own children. The aboriginal affairs minister, then - Mal Brough - had been claiming that the &quot;children were being abused by paedophile gangs in unthinkable numbers&quot;. The Howard government sent in the army to &quot;rescue&quot; the children - the community was destroyed (with there being, by some strange coincidence, a side issue involving allocation of mining rights to the land beneath the same community).
I was taken in - I trusted in the government and in the ABC - only to discover years later (a John Pilger investigation) that it was all lies. The witness was actually a senior government official who reported directly to the minister. All of the claims (by the witness, the minister, and the prime minister) were discredited by the Australian Crimes Commission, the Northern Territory police, and a medical investigation that reported: of the several thousand children examined, though most had ailments of some kind - none were of a sexual nature. 

The horror of such dishonest, unjust, terrible, false allegations should have had all decent Australian&#039;s on their bellies begging those aboriginal men for their forgiveness - but white Australia feels no shame - the aboriginals have not even had as much as an insincere, superficial apology.
To all reasonable minds, the Australian government must surely have lost all credibility a long time ago. For me, I find that I am unable to have any respect for it - and that rather, I loathe it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was revolted by Guyon Espiner&#8217;s soppy treatment of &#8220;witness Ian&#8221; on RNZ&#8217;s Checkpoint last Friday evening &#8211; so much so that I turned the radio off just before Espiner brought on some National Party spokesperson.<br />
Witness Ian was so blatantly a liar &#8211; you could hear it in his voice, and in his concocted answers to Espiner&#8217;s pathetic inquiry. I found myself willing Espiner to ask Ian what was motivating him &#8230; surely not some genuine concern for New Zealand.</p>
<p>Witness Ian&#8217;s fake account was sickeningly similar to a certain &#8220;witness&#8221; interviewed back in 2006 on ABC&#8217;s current affairs program, Lateline. The man, face concealed, introduced as a youth worker who had been living in Mutitjulu (an aboriginal community), told of how drunk, aboriginal fathers were sexually abusing their own children. The aboriginal affairs minister, then &#8211; Mal Brough &#8211; had been claiming that the &#8220;children were being abused by paedophile gangs in unthinkable numbers&#8221;. The Howard government sent in the army to &#8220;rescue&#8221; the children &#8211; the community was destroyed (with there being, by some strange coincidence, a side issue involving allocation of mining rights to the land beneath the same community).<br />
I was taken in &#8211; I trusted in the government and in the ABC &#8211; only to discover years later (a John Pilger investigation) that it was all lies. The witness was actually a senior government official who reported directly to the minister. All of the claims (by the witness, the minister, and the prime minister) were discredited by the Australian Crimes Commission, the Northern Territory police, and a medical investigation that reported: of the several thousand children examined, though most had ailments of some kind &#8211; none were of a sexual nature. </p>
<p>The horror of such dishonest, unjust, terrible, false allegations should have had all decent Australian&#8217;s on their bellies begging those aboriginal men for their forgiveness &#8211; but white Australia feels no shame &#8211; the aboriginals have not even had as much as an insincere, superficial apology.<br />
To all reasonable minds, the Australian government must surely have lost all credibility a long time ago. For me, I find that I am unable to have any respect for it &#8211; and that rather, I loathe it.</p>
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		By: Benn		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Benn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2017 20:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not everything is a racist conspiracy Trotter.

http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/checkpoint/audio/2018620063/man-jailed-for-largest-collection-of-child-abuse-images-ever-found-in-nz

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/98443105/lower-hutt-mans-child-abuse-image-offending-largest-internal-affairs-has-prosecuted

Contrary to his description as a Lower Hutt man, Salman Jabbar Alhisaynawi is actually a refugee.

Defend Jacinda as you please Chris, but who will take responsibility when the Manus Island queue jumpers engage in similar criminality on our shores? After repeated warnings Jacinda will deservedly cop the blame. In opening the door for the illegal immigrants on Manus she has opened the door for National next election... Perhaps Labour and the MSM will cover it up as happened during the aftermath of the Tampa boat crisis under Clark... Either way ruining relations with Australia and forcing dangerous people into our communities (no doubt the same poor communities I voted Labour in hopes of protecting from bad Govt policy), is not what I voted for and i&#039;m already consigned to scuttle my vote next election.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not everything is a racist conspiracy Trotter.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/checkpoint/audio/2018620063/man-jailed-for-largest-collection-of-child-abuse-images-ever-found-in-nz" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/checkpoint/audio/2018620063/man-jailed-for-largest-collection-of-child-abuse-images-ever-found-in-nz</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/98443105/lower-hutt-mans-child-abuse-image-offending-largest-internal-affairs-has-prosecuted" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/98443105/lower-hutt-mans-child-abuse-image-offending-largest-internal-affairs-has-prosecuted</a></p>
<p>Contrary to his description as a Lower Hutt man, Salman Jabbar Alhisaynawi is actually a refugee.</p>
<p>Defend Jacinda as you please Chris, but who will take responsibility when the Manus Island queue jumpers engage in similar criminality on our shores? After repeated warnings Jacinda will deservedly cop the blame. In opening the door for the illegal immigrants on Manus she has opened the door for National next election&#8230; Perhaps Labour and the MSM will cover it up as happened during the aftermath of the Tampa boat crisis under Clark&#8230; Either way ruining relations with Australia and forcing dangerous people into our communities (no doubt the same poor communities I voted Labour in hopes of protecting from bad Govt policy), is not what I voted for and i&#8217;m already consigned to scuttle my vote next election.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2017 10:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Do you think these 150 who tried to get into Australia illegally, would be good for NZ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you think these 150 who tried to get into Australia illegally, would be good for NZ?</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2017 06:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I expect the less informed and judgmental of New Zealanders to take issue with humane treatment of refugees but our journalists like Guyon Espiner feeding us Australian fakenews?  On a New Zealand tax paid radio station.  Who owns the airwaves?  Not rational thinkers.  It used to be owned by New Zealanders that valued the truth above everything.  When did we join the american/aussie copier think tanks?

If any people on Manus are killed I hold the New Zealand national party and Australian governments wholly responsible because all they care about is their own self interested politically motivated agendas.  Despicable, but what else would I expect from the greedy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I expect the less informed and judgmental of New Zealanders to take issue with humane treatment of refugees but our journalists like Guyon Espiner feeding us Australian fakenews?  On a New Zealand tax paid radio station.  Who owns the airwaves?  Not rational thinkers.  It used to be owned by New Zealanders that valued the truth above everything.  When did we join the american/aussie copier think tanks?</p>
<p>If any people on Manus are killed I hold the New Zealand national party and Australian governments wholly responsible because all they care about is their own self interested politically motivated agendas.  Despicable, but what else would I expect from the greedy.</p>
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