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		By: bert		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2020 23:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/life-in-lock-down-day-5/#comment-129701&quot;&gt;Frank Macskasy&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes Frank let the blood flow within her own party(bubble)]]></description>
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<p>Yes Frank let the blood flow within her own party(bubble)</p>
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		By: Janio		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2020 13:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Further to my comment supporting fruit and veg shops operating:Frank, you are committed to keeping traffic flows down. Supermarkets depend on an enormous network of goods flowing in from a multitude of places. I am not certain that fruit and veg shops will increase the flows to a dangerous level. They rely on local sources so would minimise flows i.e. the goods would generate less traffic compared with supermarket goods. We&#039;d need to do a detailed study to ascertain how this would affect the overall flows of traffic.

The orchards and market gardens will continue producing their bounty. What happens to the produce earmarked for the fruit and veg stores that the supermarkets don&#039;t want? I&#039;m thinking of the Chinese vegetables that sell well in the local f&#038;v store. It&#039;s going to waste. Surely that should be a consideration for retaining the local stores.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further to my comment supporting fruit and veg shops operating:Frank, you are committed to keeping traffic flows down. Supermarkets depend on an enormous network of goods flowing in from a multitude of places. I am not certain that fruit and veg shops will increase the flows to a dangerous level. They rely on local sources so would minimise flows i.e. the goods would generate less traffic compared with supermarket goods. We&#8217;d need to do a detailed study to ascertain how this would affect the overall flows of traffic.</p>
<p>The orchards and market gardens will continue producing their bounty. What happens to the produce earmarked for the fruit and veg stores that the supermarkets don&#8217;t want? I&#8217;m thinking of the Chinese vegetables that sell well in the local f&amp;v store. It&#8217;s going to waste. Surely that should be a consideration for retaining the local stores.</p>
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		By: Janio		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2020 12:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with Seymour&#039;s 2nd point. Our local fruit and veg store had a better range than local supermarkets. They must source from different places. If they set up safeguards I don&#039;t think they&#039;d create more risk than supermarkets. We would shop there weekly instead of supermarkets. How would you rank safety compared with dairies which we are allowed to shop in?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Seymour&#8217;s 2nd point. Our local fruit and veg store had a better range than local supermarkets. They must source from different places. If they set up safeguards I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;d create more risk than supermarkets. We would shop there weekly instead of supermarkets. How would you rank safety compared with dairies which we are allowed to shop in?</p>
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		By: Frank Macskasy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2020 08:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/life-in-lock-down-day-5/#comment-129692&quot;&gt;Sean K&lt;/a&gt;.

No, Seymour and Collins are not correct. (They ARE Right, though.) Not even close.

We all know that Seymour is chasing votes from the business community and Collins is shaping herself as the next Leader of you-know-what, after Simon Bridges loses the election.

It is obvious to everyone: the more places are open, the more people are attracted. It creates a  false sense of &quot;normality&quot; which is anything but. Social distancing is hard enough in a few large supermarkets. Now imagine trying to space out people in smaller retailers. Impossible. 

One-at-a-time entry? Who polices that? Back to Square One.

As for Hong Kong, things aren&#039;t as rosy as you believe;

&quot;Hong Kong logged a daily record of 48 new infections Saturday as travelers returned home, and as of Wednesday, the city of 7.4 million had reported more than 400 cases. This week, the government ordered all residents back home, and closed public sports facilities, museums, and libraries that had just reopened. What’s more, the city stopped admitting visitors for two weeks. As an extra measure against socializing, the government demanded that bars stop serving alcohol.&quot;

ref: https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/26/coronavirus-hong-kong-resurgenece-holds-lesson-defeating-it-demands-persistence/

Have a read of this, as well:  https://elemental.medium.com/hold-the-line-17231c48ff17]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/life-in-lock-down-day-5/#comment-129692">Sean K</a>.</p>
<p>No, Seymour and Collins are not correct. (They ARE Right, though.) Not even close.</p>
<p>We all know that Seymour is chasing votes from the business community and Collins is shaping herself as the next Leader of you-know-what, after Simon Bridges loses the election.</p>
<p>It is obvious to everyone: the more places are open, the more people are attracted. It creates a  false sense of &#8220;normality&#8221; which is anything but. Social distancing is hard enough in a few large supermarkets. Now imagine trying to space out people in smaller retailers. Impossible. </p>
<p>One-at-a-time entry? Who polices that? Back to Square One.</p>
<p>As for Hong Kong, things aren&#8217;t as rosy as you believe;</p>
<p>&#8220;Hong Kong logged a daily record of 48 new infections Saturday as travelers returned home, and as of Wednesday, the city of 7.4 million had reported more than 400 cases. This week, the government ordered all residents back home, and closed public sports facilities, museums, and libraries that had just reopened. What’s more, the city stopped admitting visitors for two weeks. As an extra measure against socializing, the government demanded that bars stop serving alcohol.&#8221;</p>
<p>ref: <a href="https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/26/coronavirus-hong-kong-resurgenece-holds-lesson-defeating-it-demands-persistence/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/26/coronavirus-hong-kong-resurgenece-holds-lesson-defeating-it-demands-persistence/</a></p>
<p>Have a read of this, as well:  <a href="https://elemental.medium.com/hold-the-line-17231c48ff17" rel="nofollow ugc">https://elemental.medium.com/hold-the-line-17231c48ff17</a></p>
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		By: Frank Macskasy		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/life-in-lock-down-day-5/#comment-129702</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank Macskasy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2020 08:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/life-in-lock-down-day-5/#comment-129697&quot;&gt;Tiger Mountain&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks, TM. Best thing is to keep busy. (Which is not hard, believe me.) I keep focused and alert for anything that may impact on my clients or myself. As I mentioned elsewhere, this is no academic exercise: if I catch this bastard virus I could take out seven clients and up to half a dozen colleagues (and their families) with me.

We have no equipment except latex gloves and paper face masks (which, as we all know, are an utter waste of time and felled trees). Our only protection is social distancing and stringent washing hands. Oh, and a tube of savlon antiseptic in my car - someone snaffled all the hand sanitiser at the supermarkets. 

And people wonder why I take this thing *deadly* seriously.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/life-in-lock-down-day-5/#comment-129697">Tiger Mountain</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks, TM. Best thing is to keep busy. (Which is not hard, believe me.) I keep focused and alert for anything that may impact on my clients or myself. As I mentioned elsewhere, this is no academic exercise: if I catch this bastard virus I could take out seven clients and up to half a dozen colleagues (and their families) with me.</p>
<p>We have no equipment except latex gloves and paper face masks (which, as we all know, are an utter waste of time and felled trees). Our only protection is social distancing and stringent washing hands. Oh, and a tube of savlon antiseptic in my car &#8211; someone snaffled all the hand sanitiser at the supermarkets. </p>
<p>And people wonder why I take this thing *deadly* seriously.</p>
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		By: Frank Macskasy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank Macskasy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2020 08:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/life-in-lock-down-day-5/#comment-129696&quot;&gt;bert&lt;/a&gt;.

My thoughts precisely, Bert.

Seymour is obviously chasing the Business Vote.

And Collins? Well, we know what she&#039;s got her eyes on.]]></description>
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<p>My thoughts precisely, Bert.</p>
<p>Seymour is obviously chasing the Business Vote.</p>
<p>And Collins? Well, we know what she&#8217;s got her eyes on.</p>
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		By: Frank Macskasy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank Macskasy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2020 08:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/life-in-lock-down-day-5/#comment-129698&quot;&gt;Greywarbler&lt;/a&gt;.

Not so much &quot;negative&quot;, Greywarbler, as observational. With most (hopefully) people staying home, we need eyes out there seeing what&#039;s going on. Just like Neighbourhood Watch - but this involves potentially saving lives. 

Spain, Italy, and the US show us where things can go horribly pear-shaped without  early collective action and vigilance.

During the Key-led government we lamented a lack of community spirit and the rise of the Me First Individual. Ok, now&#039;s our chance to put that community spirit to the test.

If people/companies (The Warehouse, Jenny Craig, et al) are taking the proverbial, the longer we&#039;ll be in lock-down. It makes my job harder (I&#039;m in the wider Health sector), and I&#039;d love to see my partner again, preferably before I draw Last Breath.

Have a read of this - the author is on-track: https://elemental.medium.com/hold-the-line-17231c48ff17]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/life-in-lock-down-day-5/#comment-129698">Greywarbler</a>.</p>
<p>Not so much &#8220;negative&#8221;, Greywarbler, as observational. With most (hopefully) people staying home, we need eyes out there seeing what&#8217;s going on. Just like Neighbourhood Watch &#8211; but this involves potentially saving lives. </p>
<p>Spain, Italy, and the US show us where things can go horribly pear-shaped without  early collective action and vigilance.</p>
<p>During the Key-led government we lamented a lack of community spirit and the rise of the Me First Individual. Ok, now&#8217;s our chance to put that community spirit to the test.</p>
<p>If people/companies (The Warehouse, Jenny Craig, et al) are taking the proverbial, the longer we&#8217;ll be in lock-down. It makes my job harder (I&#8217;m in the wider Health sector), and I&#8217;d love to see my partner again, preferably before I draw Last Breath.</p>
<p>Have a read of this &#8211; the author is on-track: <a href="https://elemental.medium.com/hold-the-line-17231c48ff17" rel="nofollow ugc">https://elemental.medium.com/hold-the-line-17231c48ff17</a></p>
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		By: OnceWasTim		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/life-in-lock-down-day-5/#comment-129699</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2020 04:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/life-in-lock-down-day-5/#comment-129693&quot;&gt;Frank Macskasy&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s the Ministry for Everything @ Frank. Rome wasn&#039;t built in a day, there&#039;ll be consultants that need consulting, and as far as resourcing of the important things, one cannot walk and chew gum at the same time - at least not without calling a meeting in a break-out room to consider all the ramifications including the impact on a number of careers (in this space, going forward).
It&#039;s really &quot;innovative&quot; thinking.
I suspect JA (at least I fucking hope) is getting a handle on the place (oops space)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/life-in-lock-down-day-5/#comment-129693">Frank Macskasy</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the Ministry for Everything @ Frank. Rome wasn&#8217;t built in a day, there&#8217;ll be consultants that need consulting, and as far as resourcing of the important things, one cannot walk and chew gum at the same time &#8211; at least not without calling a meeting in a break-out room to consider all the ramifications including the impact on a number of careers (in this space, going forward).<br />
It&#8217;s really &#8220;innovative&#8221; thinking.<br />
I suspect JA (at least I fucking hope) is getting a handle on the place (oops space)</p>
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		By: Greywarbler		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2020 04:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Try not to be negative Frank.    You are imagining things being wrong, people might be driving a truck with stuff they shouldn&#039;t.   That&#039;s repeating and renewing a bad NZ trait of negativity and put-downs that I have noticed over the years.    Commenting may be free and equal, but a lot are more equal than others.    I think in emergencies we need positive ideas, and suggestions enabling us to rise above the problems, and ideas to help prepare for any further blows to our society.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try not to be negative Frank.    You are imagining things being wrong, people might be driving a truck with stuff they shouldn&#8217;t.   That&#8217;s repeating and renewing a bad NZ trait of negativity and put-downs that I have noticed over the years.    Commenting may be free and equal, but a lot are more equal than others.    I think in emergencies we need positive ideas, and suggestions enabling us to rise above the problems, and ideas to help prepare for any further blows to our society.</p>
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		By: Tiger Mountain		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2020 02:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Keep up the good work Frank. You are committing to type and images, the daily experiences similar to many.

You may resemble a sandwich by the end though, as will others on this regime! Fortunately I have usable lettuce, chillies, spring onion, mandarin, feijoa (tiny this year), and many herbs in garden, and jar grown mixed sprouts to add to the mix. No more food wasted at least.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep up the good work Frank. You are committing to type and images, the daily experiences similar to many.</p>
<p>You may resemble a sandwich by the end though, as will others on this regime! Fortunately I have usable lettuce, chillies, spring onion, mandarin, feijoa (tiny this year), and many herbs in garden, and jar grown mixed sprouts to add to the mix. No more food wasted at least.</p>
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