With Hone’s support. That’s why Sue Bradford left wasn’t it?
I’m not spreading lies about Hone and what he did.

“The question is why did Hone betray his people by teaming up with a politically toxic Dotcom”

I’ve told you numerous times on here that Hone didn’t make the choice. It was the party members.

This is common knowledge. Please stop spreading lies about Hone and what he did.

So pleased that you did Martyn, I didn’t say they were the exact same policies Both Lab/Greens want to tackle housing, homelessness, poverty etc, so I thought they were all on the same page because that’s what I thought Mana wanted too.

Personally I don’t believe a liar like Lusk. The entire media were attacking Cunliffe and Labour too, and I am not trying to rewrite history.

What your constant diatribe against Hone and MANA and Dotcom always misses Words is that they doubled their 2011 result. If Labour and NZ First hadn’t teamed up with Simon Lusk and National in TTT, Hone and Laila would be in Parliament.

MANA-Internet lost because the entire mainstream media attacked them and every ally on the left deserted them. If you don’t like true left wing politics that’s fine, but don’t rewrite the history a few of us lived.

As someone who helped write those MANA policies – you are wrong. MANA’s policies are not reflected in the Greens or Labour policies.

Do you realize that Lab/Greens have pretty much the same polices as Mana? In fact, I would say that Labour/ Greens/NZFirst and Mana are on the same page in many respects.

I talk about KDC as the reason Hone lost his seat. That’s what this discussion and argument has been about, that’s why. You are too ideologically blinded to see reality. The Greens didn’t openly support Mana Internet. The Greens started stupidly talking it up how they could work with National!!! It was a crazy, weird election and there was no way that the powers that be would have ever allowed Dotcom to coat tail his way into parliament. Do you forget that the National government is at war with Dotcom, he’s facing an unjust extradition so key can hand him over to America who want to make an example out of him, and he was also involved in John Banks fraud court case. If you think that’s not politically toxic then you are indeed blind. NO PARTY could have supported Mana with Dotcom’s involvement and you are being politically naive if you think image and perception don’t count, sure polices matter, but politics is all about image and perception. That’s how no vision John Key and his National government of corruption have gotten away with their crimes against this country and people.

Yep, Hone did that alright when he teamed up with Dotcom.

Shame on you Fatty. Obviously you are wrong given that the tory Maori party with National party cabinet club fundraising dinners only won 1 seat out of 7, and I don’t think Hone would appreciate your disrespect of Ngapuhi elders either, he and his family are connected you know.

The question is why did Hone betray his people by teaming up with a politically toxic Dotcom, that no opposition party could support, that saw him loose his seat? Sue Bradford was vindicated wasn’t she?

I know why, do you? Hone said at the time he needed the money. When Mana and the Internet party teamed up, I thought great, Hone is playing John key and the Nats at their own game, but then I saw people weren’t viewing it as that. I like Dotcom, but he was the issue, people viewed the merger with distrust and felt betrayed. Are you so blindly ideologically driven that you cannot accept that people did feel that way?