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		By: Wha Left		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/is-this-the-right-time-to-protest-against-an-american-warship/#comment-35081</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wha Left]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2016 08:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/is-this-the-right-time-to-protest-against-an-american-warship/#comment-35076&quot;&gt;David See-More&lt;/a&gt;.

OK, NIMBY See-More.  

You and your loony-right party are &quot;OK&quot; with nuclear, how about a nuclear reactor being built in Epsom electorate?  Too close?  

Using your expedient logic, there would be only a 50-50% of a US warship being dangerous. 

So the same faulty, fuckwittery logic would say that a nuclear power plant in Epsom would be a 50% chance of being safe.  Luckily, it has been proven scientifically and statistically, that people with an IQ and EQ of less than 80 are immune to radiation.

Yup there is is, statistically and scientifically you have a better than 50% chance of being radiationally safe in the run-up to the next election.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/is-this-the-right-time-to-protest-against-an-american-warship/#comment-35076">David See-More</a>.</p>
<p>OK, NIMBY See-More.  </p>
<p>You and your loony-right party are &#8220;OK&#8221; with nuclear, how about a nuclear reactor being built in Epsom electorate?  Too close?  </p>
<p>Using your expedient logic, there would be only a 50-50% of a US warship being dangerous. </p>
<p>So the same faulty, fuckwittery logic would say that a nuclear power plant in Epsom would be a 50% chance of being safe.  Luckily, it has been proven scientifically and statistically, that people with an IQ and EQ of less than 80 are immune to radiation.</p>
<p>Yup there is is, statistically and scientifically you have a better than 50% chance of being radiationally safe in the run-up to the next election.</p>
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		By: Mike in Auckland		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike in Auckland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2016 08:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/is-this-the-right-time-to-protest-against-an-american-warship/#comment-35076&quot;&gt;David See-More&lt;/a&gt;.

For you it will of course be &quot;a happy coincidence&quot; to have an arms conference with the big arms makers and peddlers here in Auckland City, for many of us it is an AFFRONT.

But you expose your lack of ethical thinking here, defending such a &quot;happy&quot; coincidence. 

ACT the less than one percent party is really catching on, now with the elite arms dealers, I note.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/is-this-the-right-time-to-protest-against-an-american-warship/#comment-35076">David See-More</a>.</p>
<p>For you it will of course be &#8220;a happy coincidence&#8221; to have an arms conference with the big arms makers and peddlers here in Auckland City, for many of us it is an AFFRONT.</p>
<p>But you expose your lack of ethical thinking here, defending such a &#8220;happy&#8221; coincidence. </p>
<p>ACT the less than one percent party is really catching on, now with the elite arms dealers, I note.</p>
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		By: Mike in Auckland		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike in Auckland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2016 08:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/is-this-the-right-time-to-protest-against-an-american-warship/#comment-35064&quot;&gt;Cassie&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks, and yes, re this:
&quot;Chris Trotter – maybe you could get a job as commentator for a flower show.&quot;

He would pair off well with that National MP and underqualified minister from the North Shore, who used to do just that. She should go back to reporting on gardening and so forth, it suits her much better, and she could engage Monsieur Trotter in reflective conversations about the roses and carnations, while rocking in a rocking chair, with a wide garden as back drop.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/is-this-the-right-time-to-protest-against-an-american-warship/#comment-35064">Cassie</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks, and yes, re this:<br />
&#8220;Chris Trotter – maybe you could get a job as commentator for a flower show.&#8221;</p>
<p>He would pair off well with that National MP and underqualified minister from the North Shore, who used to do just that. She should go back to reporting on gardening and so forth, it suits her much better, and she could engage Monsieur Trotter in reflective conversations about the roses and carnations, while rocking in a rocking chair, with a wide garden as back drop.</p>
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		By: Mike in Auckland		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike in Auckland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2016 08:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/is-this-the-right-time-to-protest-against-an-american-warship/#comment-35069&quot;&gt;Molly&lt;/a&gt;.

Agreed. Should have been published instead of Mr Trotter&#039;s bizarre mental journey.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/is-this-the-right-time-to-protest-against-an-american-warship/#comment-35069">Molly</a>.</p>
<p>Agreed. Should have been published instead of Mr Trotter&#8217;s bizarre mental journey.</p>
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		By: Mike in Auckland		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike in Auckland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2016 08:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/is-this-the-right-time-to-protest-against-an-american-warship/#comment-35054&quot;&gt;Frances Denz&lt;/a&gt;.

Just trying to be a bit cynical, with an open dictatorship we know what goes on, in this highly sophisticated defacto dictatorship ruled by commercial interests, many do not even realise they live in a defacto dictatorship.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/is-this-the-right-time-to-protest-against-an-american-warship/#comment-35054">Frances Denz</a>.</p>
<p>Just trying to be a bit cynical, with an open dictatorship we know what goes on, in this highly sophisticated defacto dictatorship ruled by commercial interests, many do not even realise they live in a defacto dictatorship.</p>
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		By: David See-More		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2016 06:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Whether or not the ships helping out at Kaikoura are nuclear or not, is immaterial.  

There are kiwis in Kaikoura suffering and if the USA can help them, that&#039;s great.
There are tourists in Kaikoura who need to get home, so the USA can assist and should help.

The US will not confirm nor deny the ships are nuclear, so there&#039;s a 50-50% chance they are not.  That&#039;s good enough for me, and Kaikourians and tourists.

The fact there&#039;s an Arms Convention is just a happy coincidence, a fortunate foible of fate.  Thanks for bringing this issue into the mainstream Christopher.  We need some balanced reporting on this site.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether or not the ships helping out at Kaikoura are nuclear or not, is immaterial.  </p>
<p>There are kiwis in Kaikoura suffering and if the USA can help them, that&#8217;s great.<br />
There are tourists in Kaikoura who need to get home, so the USA can assist and should help.</p>
<p>The US will not confirm nor deny the ships are nuclear, so there&#8217;s a 50-50% chance they are not.  That&#8217;s good enough for me, and Kaikourians and tourists.</p>
<p>The fact there&#8217;s an Arms Convention is just a happy coincidence, a fortunate foible of fate.  Thanks for bringing this issue into the mainstream Christopher.  We need some balanced reporting on this site.</p>
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		By: pukeko		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/is-this-the-right-time-to-protest-against-an-american-warship/#comment-35075</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pukeko]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2016 05:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/is-this-the-right-time-to-protest-against-an-american-warship/#comment-35069&quot;&gt;Molly&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Molly.. I could have said a lot more!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/is-this-the-right-time-to-protest-against-an-american-warship/#comment-35069">Molly</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks Molly.. I could have said a lot more!</p>
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		By: Frances Denz		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frances Denz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2016 01:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/is-this-the-right-time-to-protest-against-an-american-warship/#comment-35051&quot;&gt;Mike in Auckland&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree that the media are dreadful and not doing their job.  But that does not mean I am going to support them by encouraging them to become PR spokespeople.  
I encourage them to go back to their original role, and then I and many like me might go back to buying and reading the papers.  Ditto radio and TV news, which I have nearly given up on too.

I live in hope, as I love reading the paper first thing in the morning, but I know it is a false hope.  Their time has gone.  Do not try to find them another job.  They are the ones who should go and find something else to d0!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/is-this-the-right-time-to-protest-against-an-american-warship/#comment-35051">Mike in Auckland</a>.</p>
<p>I agree that the media are dreadful and not doing their job.  But that does not mean I am going to support them by encouraging them to become PR spokespeople.<br />
I encourage them to go back to their original role, and then I and many like me might go back to buying and reading the papers.  Ditto radio and TV news, which I have nearly given up on too.</p>
<p>I live in hope, as I love reading the paper first thing in the morning, but I know it is a false hope.  Their time has gone.  Do not try to find them another job.  They are the ones who should go and find something else to d0!</p>
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		By: A high five for the protestors! &#171; The Daily Blog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A high five for the protestors! &#171; The Daily Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2016 21:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] To say I was disappointed reading Chris Trotter’s opposition to protests against the defence industry and warship visits in&#8230; [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] To say I was disappointed reading Chris Trotter’s opposition to protests against the defence industry and warship visits in&#8230; [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: J Bloggs		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J Bloggs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2016 19:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/is-this-the-right-time-to-protest-against-an-american-warship/#comment-35068&quot;&gt;Molly&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Molly,

The US Government under George W. Bush moved to remove all tactical nuclear weapons from surface vessels in 1991-2. This was soon followed by the removal of nuclear armed tomahawk missles from the attack submarine fleet. In 2010, Presdient Obama authorised the destruction of the last tactical nuclear weapons that could be mounted on US naval vessels (the aforementioned Tomahawks). The only nuclear weapons left in the US Navy are the Trident Missiles on the US SSBN&#039;s.

As for propulsion, the Arleigh Burke class destroyers are powered by Gas turbines.

THe following link has details and links to documentation supporting this - read the section &quot;After the big nuke offload&quot;

https://fas.org/blogs/security/2016/02/nuclear-weapons-at-sea/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/is-this-the-right-time-to-protest-against-an-american-warship/#comment-35068">Molly</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Molly,</p>
<p>The US Government under George W. Bush moved to remove all tactical nuclear weapons from surface vessels in 1991-2. This was soon followed by the removal of nuclear armed tomahawk missles from the attack submarine fleet. In 2010, Presdient Obama authorised the destruction of the last tactical nuclear weapons that could be mounted on US naval vessels (the aforementioned Tomahawks). The only nuclear weapons left in the US Navy are the Trident Missiles on the US SSBN&#8217;s.</p>
<p>As for propulsion, the Arleigh Burke class destroyers are powered by Gas turbines.</p>
<p>THe following link has details and links to documentation supporting this &#8211; read the section &#8220;After the big nuke offload&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="https://fas.org/blogs/security/2016/02/nuclear-weapons-at-sea/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://fas.org/blogs/security/2016/02/nuclear-weapons-at-sea/</a></p>
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