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		By: John W		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John W]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2020 05:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/how-trump-allows-jacinda-to-be-honest-about-length-of-lockdown-our-desperately-needed-economic-tino-rangatiratanga-for-the-greater-depression/#comment-129505&quot;&gt;CLEANGREEN&lt;/a&gt;.

Where is the social unrest in NZ.  Business have been taken over by offshore capital for decades.
No Govt should stand by and let this happen nor let cheap imported goods kill off local industry as has happened right across NZ.
We need a scale of social unrest that creates any havoc needed to reverse the take over that is happening.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/how-trump-allows-jacinda-to-be-honest-about-length-of-lockdown-our-desperately-needed-economic-tino-rangatiratanga-for-the-greater-depression/#comment-129505">CLEANGREEN</a>.</p>
<p>Where is the social unrest in NZ.  Business have been taken over by offshore capital for decades.<br />
No Govt should stand by and let this happen nor let cheap imported goods kill off local industry as has happened right across NZ.<br />
We need a scale of social unrest that creates any havoc needed to reverse the take over that is happening.</p>
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		By: mary_a		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mary_a]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2020 03:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/how-trump-allows-jacinda-to-be-honest-about-length-of-lockdown-our-desperately-needed-economic-tino-rangatiratanga-for-the-greater-depression/#comment-129491&quot;&gt;PinguFreak&lt;/a&gt;.

PinguFreak ... are you really Donald Trump, infiltrating this site?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/how-trump-allows-jacinda-to-be-honest-about-length-of-lockdown-our-desperately-needed-economic-tino-rangatiratanga-for-the-greater-depression/#comment-129491">PinguFreak</a>.</p>
<p>PinguFreak &#8230; are you really Donald Trump, infiltrating this site?</p>
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		By: John W		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John W]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2020 09:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/how-trump-allows-jacinda-to-be-honest-about-length-of-lockdown-our-desperately-needed-economic-tino-rangatiratanga-for-the-greater-depression/#comment-129501&quot;&gt;Spikeyboy&lt;/a&gt;.

An informative read.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/how-trump-allows-jacinda-to-be-honest-about-length-of-lockdown-our-desperately-needed-economic-tino-rangatiratanga-for-the-greater-depression/#comment-129501">Spikeyboy</a>.</p>
<p>An informative read.</p>
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		By: Sam		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2020 06:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/how-trump-allows-jacinda-to-be-honest-about-length-of-lockdown-our-desperately-needed-economic-tino-rangatiratanga-for-the-greater-depression/#comment-129498&quot;&gt;reason&lt;/a&gt;.

I think you&#039;re correct. Mass testing as well as self isolation is fundamental to bending the curve.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/how-trump-allows-jacinda-to-be-honest-about-length-of-lockdown-our-desperately-needed-economic-tino-rangatiratanga-for-the-greater-depression/#comment-129498">reason</a>.</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re correct. Mass testing as well as self isolation is fundamental to bending the curve.</p>
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		By: Kat		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2020 06:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And yet this from Sir John Key on the Nation yesterday:

On Thursday last week New Zealand&#039;s borders were closed to all foreign arrivals.

Sir John Key acknowledged Jacinda Ardern has been criticised for this, with people saying it came too late.

&quot;I know from being in that job that while maybe one person&#039;s perspective, you have to weigh up a lot of different things,&quot; he said.

&quot;So to say close the border like she did, on one hand that will save lives but that&#039;s an immediate recession which affects the most vulnerable who are the least equipped to deal with it...&quot;

He refused to criticise Ardern saying that not only would it be unjustified, but it&#039;s not what the country needs.

&quot;This is a time we all have to pull together on this. This isn&#039;t a political issue - it&#039;s a catastrophic health emergency that the whole world is facing.&quot;

Steve Elers is a modern day Hee Haw.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yet this from Sir John Key on the Nation yesterday:</p>
<p>On Thursday last week New Zealand&#8217;s borders were closed to all foreign arrivals.</p>
<p>Sir John Key acknowledged Jacinda Ardern has been criticised for this, with people saying it came too late.</p>
<p>&#8220;I know from being in that job that while maybe one person&#8217;s perspective, you have to weigh up a lot of different things,&#8221; he said.</p>
<p>&#8220;So to say close the border like she did, on one hand that will save lives but that&#8217;s an immediate recession which affects the most vulnerable who are the least equipped to deal with it&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>He refused to criticise Ardern saying that not only would it be unjustified, but it&#8217;s not what the country needs.</p>
<p>&#8220;This is a time we all have to pull together on this. This isn&#8217;t a political issue &#8211; it&#8217;s a catastrophic health emergency that the whole world is facing.&#8221;</p>
<p>Steve Elers is a modern day Hee Haw.</p>
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		By: CLEANGREEN		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CLEANGREEN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2020 06:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I watched China invade Kenya in 1970 with wholesale takeover of the Afican markets around Kenyas biggest City to control all commerce then.

They almost destroyed the African store owners and retailers byflooding the shps they tookover to completely Monopolise commmerce to fence the City of Nairobi.

Most Africans lost their bussiness&#039;s and incomes and extreme racial pressures developed there.

Finally several years later the Kenyan Government was forced to expel many Chinese because of the social unrest that developed from mass chinese bussiness takeovers there.  

Just saying what I witnessed while working in frica during that time. 

Sadly if we don&#039;t watch out here for &#039;social balance&#039;, we may see the same thing happen here.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched China invade Kenya in 1970 with wholesale takeover of the Afican markets around Kenyas biggest City to control all commerce then.</p>
<p>They almost destroyed the African store owners and retailers byflooding the shps they tookover to completely Monopolise commmerce to fence the City of Nairobi.</p>
<p>Most Africans lost their bussiness&#8217;s and incomes and extreme racial pressures developed there.</p>
<p>Finally several years later the Kenyan Government was forced to expel many Chinese because of the social unrest that developed from mass chinese bussiness takeovers there.  </p>
<p>Just saying what I witnessed while working in frica during that time. </p>
<p>Sadly if we don&#8217;t watch out here for &#8216;social balance&#8217;, we may see the same thing happen here.</p>
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		By: manfred staab		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2020 05:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/25/covid-19-is-natures-wake-up-call-to-complacent-civilisation

Wake-up Call.

In his forthcoming book, Our Final Warning, Mark Lynas explains what is likely to happen to our food supply with every extra degree of global heating. He finds that extreme danger kicks in somewhere between 3C and 4C above pre-industrial levels. At this point, a series of interlocking impacts threatens to send food production into a death spiral. Outdoor temperatures become too high for humans to tolerate, making subsistence farming impossible across Africa and South Asia. Livestock die from heat stress. Temperatures start to exceed the lethal thresholds for crop plants across much of the world, and major food producing regions turn into dust bowls. Simultaneous global harvest failure – something that has never happened in the modern world – becomes highly likely.

In combination with a rising human population, and the loss of irrigation water, soil and pollinators, this could push the world into structural famine. Even today, when the world has a total food surplus, hundreds of millions are malnourished as a result of the unequal distribution of wealth and power. A food deficit could result in billions starving. Hoarding will happen, as it always has, at the global level, as powerful people snatch food from the mouths of the poor. Yet, even if every nation keeps its promises under the Paris agreement, which currently seems unlikely, global heating will amount to between 3C and 4C.

Thanks to our illusion of security, we are doing almost nothing to anticipate this catastrophe, let alone prevent it. 

This existential issue scarcely seems to impinge on our consciousness. Every food-producing sector claims that its own current practices are sustainable and don’t need to change. Sacred cows and holy lambs are everywhere, and the thinking required to develop the new food systems that we need is scarcely anywhere.

.... and there are specifics of the Pacific region...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOqCNvSZUOg
.... and the sense of urgency..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw82woIZCNQ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/25/covid-19-is-natures-wake-up-call-to-complacent-civilisation" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/25/covid-19-is-natures-wake-up-call-to-complacent-civilisation</a></p>
<p>Wake-up Call.</p>
<p>In his forthcoming book, Our Final Warning, Mark Lynas explains what is likely to happen to our food supply with every extra degree of global heating. He finds that extreme danger kicks in somewhere between 3C and 4C above pre-industrial levels. At this point, a series of interlocking impacts threatens to send food production into a death spiral. Outdoor temperatures become too high for humans to tolerate, making subsistence farming impossible across Africa and South Asia. Livestock die from heat stress. Temperatures start to exceed the lethal thresholds for crop plants across much of the world, and major food producing regions turn into dust bowls. Simultaneous global harvest failure – something that has never happened in the modern world – becomes highly likely.</p>
<p>In combination with a rising human population, and the loss of irrigation water, soil and pollinators, this could push the world into structural famine. Even today, when the world has a total food surplus, hundreds of millions are malnourished as a result of the unequal distribution of wealth and power. A food deficit could result in billions starving. Hoarding will happen, as it always has, at the global level, as powerful people snatch food from the mouths of the poor. Yet, even if every nation keeps its promises under the Paris agreement, which currently seems unlikely, global heating will amount to between 3C and 4C.</p>
<p>Thanks to our illusion of security, we are doing almost nothing to anticipate this catastrophe, let alone prevent it. </p>
<p>This existential issue scarcely seems to impinge on our consciousness. Every food-producing sector claims that its own current practices are sustainable and don’t need to change. Sacred cows and holy lambs are everywhere, and the thinking required to develop the new food systems that we need is scarcely anywhere.</p>
<p>&#8230;. and there are specifics of the Pacific region&#8230;<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOqCNvSZUOg" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOqCNvSZUOg</a><br />
&#8230;. and the sense of urgency..<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw82woIZCNQ" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw82woIZCNQ</a></p>
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		By: Popeye		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Popeye]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2020 05:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Going on a week since lockdown now, surely flu symptoms should be starting to show in people? I recently read that 15 million people have died in the world this year alone from various causes (which makes the Covid proportion of deaths a thousandth?). Who were these people? Did they have a good life? Did they reach their full potential?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Going on a week since lockdown now, surely flu symptoms should be starting to show in people? I recently read that 15 million people have died in the world this year alone from various causes (which makes the Covid proportion of deaths a thousandth?). Who were these people? Did they have a good life? Did they reach their full potential?</p>
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		By: Kat		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2020 04:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/how-trump-allows-jacinda-to-be-honest-about-length-of-lockdown-our-desperately-needed-economic-tino-rangatiratanga-for-the-greater-depression/#comment-129499&quot;&gt;Trevor Sennitt&lt;/a&gt;.

I trust you or someone brought her up to speed Trevor.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/how-trump-allows-jacinda-to-be-honest-about-length-of-lockdown-our-desperately-needed-economic-tino-rangatiratanga-for-the-greater-depression/#comment-129499">Trevor Sennitt</a>.</p>
<p>I trust you or someone brought her up to speed Trevor.</p>
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		By: Spikeyboy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Spikeyboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2020 03:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On the subject of China blaming Martyn is clearly wrong

https://m.chicagoreader.com/chicago/coronavirus-china-us-response/Content?oid=78757637]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the subject of China blaming Martyn is clearly wrong</p>
<p><a href="https://m.chicagoreader.com/chicago/coronavirus-china-us-response/Content?oid=78757637" rel="nofollow ugc">https://m.chicagoreader.com/chicago/coronavirus-china-us-response/Content?oid=78757637</a></p>
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