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		By: stand_alone_complex		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/how-chloe-leads-the-largest-mass-movement-isnt-just-a-problem-for-the-greens/#comment-301473</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stand_alone_complex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2024 06:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/how-chloe-leads-the-largest-mass-movement-isnt-just-a-problem-for-the-greens/#comment-301470&quot;&gt;Erik Nordmeyer&lt;/a&gt;.

huh? well ok then..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/how-chloe-leads-the-largest-mass-movement-isnt-just-a-problem-for-the-greens/#comment-301470">Erik Nordmeyer</a>.</p>
<p>huh? well ok then..</p>
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		By: Manfred Staab		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Manfred Staab]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2024 03:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Transforming green party bureaucrats into an ‘ecological mass movement’ isn’t a bad idea. Not at all ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Transforming green party bureaucrats into an ‘ecological mass movement’ isn’t a bad idea. Not at all &#8230;</p>
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		By: tesseract		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tesseract]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2024 09:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/how-chloe-leads-the-largest-mass-movement-isnt-just-a-problem-for-the-greens/#comment-301467&quot;&gt;man with no name&lt;/a&gt;.

Right, so Maori built all that physical infrastructure with their own capital and labour did they? Oh wait, no they didn&#039;t.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/how-chloe-leads-the-largest-mass-movement-isnt-just-a-problem-for-the-greens/#comment-301467">man with no name</a>.</p>
<p>Right, so Maori built all that physical infrastructure with their own capital and labour did they? Oh wait, no they didn&#8217;t.</p>
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		By: Erik Nordmeyer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erik Nordmeyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2024 09:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/how-chloe-leads-the-largest-mass-movement-isnt-just-a-problem-for-the-greens/#comment-301462&quot;&gt;stand_alone_complex&lt;/a&gt;.

Every time, though candidate only last  election.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/how-chloe-leads-the-largest-mass-movement-isnt-just-a-problem-for-the-greens/#comment-301462">stand_alone_complex</a>.</p>
<p>Every time, though candidate only last  election.</p>
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		By: man with no name		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/how-chloe-leads-the-largest-mass-movement-isnt-just-a-problem-for-the-greens/#comment-301469</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[man with no name]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2024 08:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/how-chloe-leads-the-largest-mass-movement-isnt-just-a-problem-for-the-greens/#comment-301464&quot;&gt;Rat in a cage&lt;/a&gt;.

Trotter lost his way for me over his &quot;one nation&quot; rhetoric and &quot;free speech&quot; wokeness]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/how-chloe-leads-the-largest-mass-movement-isnt-just-a-problem-for-the-greens/#comment-301464">Rat in a cage</a>.</p>
<p>Trotter lost his way for me over his &#8220;one nation&#8221; rhetoric and &#8220;free speech&#8221; wokeness</p>
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		By: man with no name		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/how-chloe-leads-the-largest-mass-movement-isnt-just-a-problem-for-the-greens/#comment-301468</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[man with no name]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2024 08:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ultimately the environment is a conservative issue - bring on the eco-facists]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ultimately the environment is a conservative issue &#8211; bring on the eco-facists</p>
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		By: man with no name		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/how-chloe-leads-the-largest-mass-movement-isnt-just-a-problem-for-the-greens/#comment-301467</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[man with no name]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2024 08:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/how-chloe-leads-the-largest-mass-movement-isnt-just-a-problem-for-the-greens/#comment-301456&quot;&gt;joseph&lt;/a&gt;.

FIFY - The upgrade in democratic infrastructure, 3 Waters”. It didn’t look like an upgrade in democracy. It looked like an expropriation of rate payer owned assets &quot;BACK&quot; to Maori]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/how-chloe-leads-the-largest-mass-movement-isnt-just-a-problem-for-the-greens/#comment-301456">joseph</a>.</p>
<p>FIFY &#8211; The upgrade in democratic infrastructure, 3 Waters”. It didn’t look like an upgrade in democracy. It looked like an expropriation of rate payer owned assets &#8220;BACK&#8221; to Maori</p>
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		By: Mohammed Khan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mohammed Khan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2024 07:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/how-chloe-leads-the-largest-mass-movement-isnt-just-a-problem-for-the-greens/#comment-301463&quot;&gt;Trevor&lt;/a&gt;.

Chapman isn&#039;t my cup of tea, but if you think David Seymour is somehow a more honest character than Chapman is, you are a monster.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/how-chloe-leads-the-largest-mass-movement-isnt-just-a-problem-for-the-greens/#comment-301463">Trevor</a>.</p>
<p>Chapman isn&#8217;t my cup of tea, but if you think David Seymour is somehow a more honest character than Chapman is, you are a monster.</p>
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		By: Geoff Fischer		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/how-chloe-leads-the-largest-mass-movement-isnt-just-a-problem-for-the-greens/#comment-301465</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoff Fischer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2024 06:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes, we do need more democracy.   Indeed any democracy at all would be a good start.  We don&#039;t need an unelected foreign monarch with extraordinary reserve powers as head of state.   We don&#039;t need security services which can dictate policy to &quot;elected&quot; governments.   
We need politicians who are accountable.   Truly accountable, as in &quot;the moment you betray those who elected you, those electors can sack you without ceremony&quot;, not as in &quot;stiff bikky, I&#039;m here for another three years and there ain&#039;t nothing you can do about it&quot;.
The very notion of someone &quot;heading a mass movement&quot; is profoundly anti-democratic.   It implies that the person &quot;at the head&quot; can use the public to achieve a purpose of his or her own devising.   That is not the function of a democratic leader.  A rangatira is there to serve and represent the people.   Not to use them towards his or her own ends, regardless of how well intended or altruistic those ends might be.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, we do need more democracy.   Indeed any democracy at all would be a good start.  We don&#8217;t need an unelected foreign monarch with extraordinary reserve powers as head of state.   We don&#8217;t need security services which can dictate policy to &#8220;elected&#8221; governments.<br />
We need politicians who are accountable.   Truly accountable, as in &#8220;the moment you betray those who elected you, those electors can sack you without ceremony&#8221;, not as in &#8220;stiff bikky, I&#8217;m here for another three years and there ain&#8217;t nothing you can do about it&#8221;.<br />
The very notion of someone &#8220;heading a mass movement&#8221; is profoundly anti-democratic.   It implies that the person &#8220;at the head&#8221; can use the public to achieve a purpose of his or her own devising.   That is not the function of a democratic leader.  A rangatira is there to serve and represent the people.   Not to use them towards his or her own ends, regardless of how well intended or altruistic those ends might be.</p>
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		By: Rat in a cage		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rat in a cage]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2024 05:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/how-chloe-leads-the-largest-mass-movement-isnt-just-a-problem-for-the-greens/#comment-301461&quot;&gt;Steve King&lt;/a&gt;.

Pretty harsh, that&#039;s some falling out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/how-chloe-leads-the-largest-mass-movement-isnt-just-a-problem-for-the-greens/#comment-301461">Steve King</a>.</p>
<p>Pretty harsh, that&#8217;s some falling out.</p>
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