Was your BS censored Marc?

Well said.

It’s funny how sometimes people can absolutely disagree on one thing and agree totally on another 🙂

You might find it worth your time getting a recording of today’s performance and watching her closely. Take note of those little smiles she gives when she’s just laid down the law, listen to how she answers the questions – I mean really listen, words and tone and what’s not said.

I don’t know I’d call her narcissistic but I don’t think I’d want to be in her company for long. I’d be a lot happier if we saw more of Mr Robertson. Or the health minister who perfectly innocently won’t front up for questions but doesn’t need to because “plenty of” others will.

Well aren’t you just the absolute model of a mature debater! It does call into question your claim of being in the health sector. But if you’re venting after a hard day, I take my words back – I do understand some people just grind you down especially when you’re dealing with customers. Even when you work where I have, as soon as someone becomes a “customer” they become an annoying whiny self-obsessed.. Better stop there, even TDB has language standards.

But to answer your question with one line. I am comparing known with known.

Our own PM or health watsis (Mr Bloomfield), can’t recall which, said today that the reason the death rate in Italy seems so high is it’s likely they’ve missed a lot of cases, ie many more are infected than is reported.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/ shows that Italy still has less deaths attributed to Covid-19 than it does to influenza in any normal year (you’ll have to dig the influenza stats out yourself, but it averaged around 17,000/yr for 2013-2017 if I recall the numbers/years correctly). These are also known figures. What I don’t know is how many deaths are going to be attributed to Influenza in Italy this year, will have to wait and see, but it may be unusually low.

As to your other post, I see no reason why someone needs to be either a fear monger or dead. As you can see I am neither, I am quite alive right now and I am also quite positive about things and encouraging people not to panic and to look to getting out of this in future.

But, “to die is to be with Christ”, so if I die it is a good thing. Alive or dead, my future is quite rosy actually. At least so long as our government doesn’t go deeper into a totalitarian state and make 1984 look like optimistic advertising copy for a holiday park. They’ve got the keeping the populace in fear of a non-existant enemy down pat, and also the daily public announcements of capacity and units processed and so on.

PS Until Jacinda I was a labour supporter all my life. Even cheered when she was voted in. I have serious doubts English would’ve made anything better, and am certain there was a lot more to Key’s sudden departure (a week after promising he’d do a full 4th term if elected) than we’re told. I’m certain that under Nats we’d be a hell of a lot worse off as a nation by now. But I don’t think I can ever vote for Labour again, and am in a bit of a quandry as the greens are even more dangerous, and NZ 1st is not trustworthy.

KC, great comment re spread of flu this year.

A fear monger or dead, what’s your choice?

Well sunshine I aint Nostradamus but given you look through hindsight let me tell you this, why the fuck are you comparing the known with the unknown? Tell me what the outcome is if we completely ignore this? Remember the dinosaur never saw the meteorite coming?
To answer but one of your loaded questions, no one shout die through lack of heating or food.