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		By: John W		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/hope-with-hone/#comment-111407</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John W]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Aug 2019 02:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/hope-with-hone/#comment-111406&quot;&gt;D&#039;Esterre&lt;/a&gt;.

Hone is but one voice.
The confiscation issue has been canvased in Treaty settlements and to some degree put to bed for some.
Today&#039;s generations were not around at times of confiscation so anything given in compensation may be welcomed by iwi but the underlying effect of the colonisation and particularly confiscation is dramatic in defining our demographics.

We can and need to do better than treaty settlements by creating a more egalitarian and accepting society that mixes without the fear of other who are different.  Its a path of growing understanding.   Radicals can help bring attention to wrongs and protest about events but some radicals help us see the problem with a strong resistance to  letting go the reins that guide a  dominance by those who currently have control.    Policy must be carefully made with a future direction.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/hope-with-hone/#comment-111406">D&#8217;Esterre</a>.</p>
<p>Hone is but one voice.<br />
The confiscation issue has been canvased in Treaty settlements and to some degree put to bed for some.<br />
Today&#8217;s generations were not around at times of confiscation so anything given in compensation may be welcomed by iwi but the underlying effect of the colonisation and particularly confiscation is dramatic in defining our demographics.</p>
<p>We can and need to do better than treaty settlements by creating a more egalitarian and accepting society that mixes without the fear of other who are different.  Its a path of growing understanding.   Radicals can help bring attention to wrongs and protest about events but some radicals help us see the problem with a strong resistance to  letting go the reins that guide a  dominance by those who currently have control.    Policy must be carefully made with a future direction.</p>
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		By: D'Esterre		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/hope-with-hone/#comment-111406</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[D'Esterre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jul 2019 06:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mosa: &quot;Hone has no credibility after his racist diatribe against pakeha who are not all too blame for Maoris plight.&quot;

Yup. Harawira has &quot;form&quot; for saying that sort of thing. No contemporary citizens are responsible for the land theft and confiscations of the 19th century. Nor are pakeha responsible for Maori crime, family violence, or drug and alcohol addictions, with the resulting mental health issues.

With regard to Ihumatao, the intention on the part of the occupiers is to grab the land. Never mind that it&#039;s privately-owned - which is why the government can&#039;t intervene. They say that they don&#039;t want houses built on the land, but on RNZ a couple of days ago, Harawira let the cat out of the bag, saying that yes, of course houses could be built there. So: attempted land grab, despite Fletcher being the legitimate owner. All of the rest of us who value our own property rights better hope that the government stands firm and doesn&#039;t intervene.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mosa: &#8220;Hone has no credibility after his racist diatribe against pakeha who are not all too blame for Maoris plight.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yup. Harawira has &#8220;form&#8221; for saying that sort of thing. No contemporary citizens are responsible for the land theft and confiscations of the 19th century. Nor are pakeha responsible for Maori crime, family violence, or drug and alcohol addictions, with the resulting mental health issues.</p>
<p>With regard to Ihumatao, the intention on the part of the occupiers is to grab the land. Never mind that it&#8217;s privately-owned &#8211; which is why the government can&#8217;t intervene. They say that they don&#8217;t want houses built on the land, but on RNZ a couple of days ago, Harawira let the cat out of the bag, saying that yes, of course houses could be built there. So: attempted land grab, despite Fletcher being the legitimate owner. All of the rest of us who value our own property rights better hope that the government stands firm and doesn&#8217;t intervene.</p>
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		By: John W		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/hope-with-hone/#comment-111405</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John W]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jul 2019 21:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hone is the only politician who has talked of the class warfare.  That includes the  downtrodden Maori and others.  Its a class problem with racism added.
Kiwis come in many forms.   Lets not be divided but identify the class struggle.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hone is the only politician who has talked of the class warfare.  That includes the  downtrodden Maori and others.  Its a class problem with racism added.<br />
Kiwis come in many forms.   Lets not be divided but identify the class struggle.</p>
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		By: sean		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jul 2019 21:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[No thanks.....he won&#039;t be getting my vote.....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No thanks&#8230;..he won&#8217;t be getting my vote&#8230;..</p>
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		By: Spikeyboy		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/hope-with-hone/#comment-111403</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Spikeyboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jul 2019 07:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hone is our only chance on the straight talking trustworthy left. Last election I got suckered into thinking that the Greens were going to finally do something worthwhile for beneficiaries but from here its back to Mana. Hone is not only our greatest orator but also most staunch activist. He belongs in Parliament and with any luck will be there again after the next election.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hone is our only chance on the straight talking trustworthy left. Last election I got suckered into thinking that the Greens were going to finally do something worthwhile for beneficiaries but from here its back to Mana. Hone is not only our greatest orator but also most staunch activist. He belongs in Parliament and with any luck will be there again after the next election.</p>
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		By: DOC HORRORDAY		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jul 2019 07:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Tiger Mountain		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/hope-with-hone/#comment-111401</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tiger Mountain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jul 2019 04:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hone is one of my heroes. Met him in 1978 in the Auckland Car Assembly Industry where we both worked.
Have bumped into him from time to time ever since it seems–he was in Patu Squad in ’81 Tour, I was in Biko Squad. Went to Waitangi protests over the years, and a few Far North struggles too involving Ngati kahu in my area. And I know some of the efforts he and Hilda have put into local development against the residual settler racists in Kaitaia.

He is a great guy in this country’s history, end of. Now you can question his political affiliations over the years if you want to, and if he seriously goes near Destiny I certainly will!  But, he still has a good analysis on a number of issues particularly now including Ihumātao. History could have been rather different if all the political parties, not just Labour, had not turned on Hone’s Te Tai Tokerau campaign when he was with Internet Mana.

Kia Kaha Hone!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hone is one of my heroes. Met him in 1978 in the Auckland Car Assembly Industry where we both worked.<br />
Have bumped into him from time to time ever since it seems–he was in Patu Squad in ’81 Tour, I was in Biko Squad. Went to Waitangi protests over the years, and a few Far North struggles too involving Ngati kahu in my area. And I know some of the efforts he and Hilda have put into local development against the residual settler racists in Kaitaia.</p>
<p>He is a great guy in this country’s history, end of. Now you can question his political affiliations over the years if you want to, and if he seriously goes near Destiny I certainly will!  But, he still has a good analysis on a number of issues particularly now including Ihumātao. History could have been rather different if all the political parties, not just Labour, had not turned on Hone’s Te Tai Tokerau campaign when he was with Internet Mana.</p>
<p>Kia Kaha Hone!</p>
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		By: Sam		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/hope-with-hone/#comment-111400</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jul 2019 01:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Maori progress:

* Education
* Work
* Scam or get scammed

Two paths at this point:

* Derangement
* Get rekt

Or

* Maximalism
* Save
* Enjoy outsized returns and contribute to the community

The degree to which Māori walk the second path determines there success.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maori progress:</p>
<p>* Education<br />
* Work<br />
* Scam or get scammed</p>
<p>Two paths at this point:</p>
<p>* Derangement<br />
* Get rekt</p>
<p>Or</p>
<p>* Maximalism<br />
* Save<br />
* Enjoy outsized returns and contribute to the community</p>
<p>The degree to which Māori walk the second path determines there success.</p>
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		By: Sam		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/hope-with-hone/#comment-111399</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jul 2019 00:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You must be an old Conservitives maari]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must be an old Conservitives maari</p>
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		By: John W		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/hope-with-hone/#comment-111398</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John W]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jul 2019 22:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hone is indeed a welcome voice and presence with the MANA carried from his strong support of the people who are underfoot in the class war in NZ.  He is a champion and only ex MP with uncompromising socialist views about a fairer society.
Destiny Church is not a part of the Mana Party.
I suspect Destiny is there to increase the head count and gain public notice.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hone is indeed a welcome voice and presence with the MANA carried from his strong support of the people who are underfoot in the class war in NZ.  He is a champion and only ex MP with uncompromising socialist views about a fairer society.<br />
Destiny Church is not a part of the Mana Party.<br />
I suspect Destiny is there to increase the head count and gain public notice.</p>
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