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		By: Alasdair Petrie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alasdair Petrie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2021 11:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/hey-labour-after-bashing-property-speculators-how-about-big-sugar-big-banks-big-plastic-big-tech-big-farts-big-booze/#comment-162977&quot;&gt;Bruce Moose&lt;/a&gt;.

Let it rip Brucie, where&#039;ere ye be,...let the wind blow free
Better a bum fart than a brain variety.
Good one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/hey-labour-after-bashing-property-speculators-how-about-big-sugar-big-banks-big-plastic-big-tech-big-farts-big-booze/#comment-162977">Bruce Moose</a>.</p>
<p>Let it rip Brucie, where&#8217;ere ye be,&#8230;let the wind blow free<br />
Better a bum fart than a brain variety.<br />
Good one.</p>
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		By: Alasdair Petrie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alasdair Petrie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2021 11:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/hey-labour-after-bashing-property-speculators-how-about-big-sugar-big-banks-big-plastic-big-tech-big-farts-big-booze/#comment-162984&quot;&gt;saveNZ&lt;/a&gt;.

This is very good  for old socialist persons. Thank you for your encouragement.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/hey-labour-after-bashing-property-speculators-how-about-big-sugar-big-banks-big-plastic-big-tech-big-farts-big-booze/#comment-162984">saveNZ</a>.</p>
<p>This is very good  for old socialist persons. Thank you for your encouragement.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2021 11:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Man the barricades Martyn]]></description>
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		By: gin hag		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2021 22:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/hey-labour-after-bashing-property-speculators-how-about-big-sugar-big-banks-big-plastic-big-tech-big-farts-big-booze/#comment-162984&quot;&gt;saveNZ&lt;/a&gt;.

I think you are on the money re: fraud, serious fraud at that or at least self perpetrating fraud..I can&#039;t read the herald so no further comment unless a kinder news outlet picks up the story.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/hey-labour-after-bashing-property-speculators-how-about-big-sugar-big-banks-big-plastic-big-tech-big-farts-big-booze/#comment-162984">saveNZ</a>.</p>
<p>I think you are on the money re: fraud, serious fraud at that or at least self perpetrating fraud..I can&#8217;t read the herald so no further comment unless a kinder news outlet picks up the story.</p>
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		By: saveNZ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2021 19:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[NZ is turning into a rip off country with rampant profiteering - in particular profiteering from people who are in a vulnerable place. 

Maree Tinsley may go to court over bill from Crime Scene Cleaners after son&#039;s suicide
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/maree-tinsley-may-go-to-court-over-bill-from-crime-scene-cleaners-after-sons-suicide/2RJGR5S24EZUAIIWELH22ZZNHE/

&quot;The Albany mum&#039;s adult grandson paid $500 when booking the cleaning online, with a warning &quot;there could be additional charges for cleaning products etc&quot;, Tinsley said.&quot;

They then get a bill for $6300 cleaning fee ($500 to $6300 with no warning!) 

Crime Scene Cleaners defends $18,000 bill for cleaning up hoarder&#039;s house
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/crime-scene-cleaners-defends-18000-bill-for-cleaning-up-hoarders-house/2M6KB4X7O4XJMQKEELASEJHZHM/

Among other things &#039;weird phone calls&#039; from the MD. 

&quot;Both Tinsley and the Palmerston North man&#039;s daughter described unexpected conversations with Crime Scene Cleaners managing director Carl Loader. He asked Tinsley to appear in a TV programme about suicide, and he told the daughter about one of his workers trying to bring his wife to New Zealand from India.

&quot;He says things in phone calls that he doesn&#039;t back up, really weird phone calls,&quot; the daughter said. &quot;I really wasn&#039;t mentally able to battle with someone when you&#039;re dealing with so many other things.&quot;

Sadly NZ is turning into a place where you increasingly can&#039;t trust anyone. 

Property puzzle: The pensioner who discovered she didn&#039;t own her home
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/property-puzzle-the-pensioner-who-discovered-she-didnt-own-her-home/UWEBXDRANHZSTM76XZETAGCSVQ/

Fraud is rampant in NZ and often involving the same offenders who seem to get away with it, again and again - then refine their frauds into even better and more confusing and complex schemes that become difficult to unpick. 

&quot;A spokesman for the SFO, which typically only examines cases of alleged financial impropriety where the sums involved exceed $5 million, declined to provide details of the complaint, or when a decision would be made whether to formally open an investigation, but said: &quot;The matter was referred to the SFO by police.&quot;

Remuera Lawyer Paul Phillips, acting for Rosolowski, said the pattern of transactions, mortgage registrations, and Companies Office filings related to the property was bewildering.

&quot;It&#039;s a convoluted situation - but whatever it was, it didn&#039;t work for Sandra - it only worked for Peters.&quot;

Phillips said banks, who repeatedly refinanced the properties in question, and law enforcement, who first received complaints about the matter in 2018, had serious questions to answer.

&quot;I can&#039;t say too much about which people are responsible - but it&#039;s a disgrace, in my opinion, that the Serious Fraud Office haven&#039;t picked it up yet,&quot; he said.&quot;

Sadly NZ has not ramped up the amount of fraud investigators, SFO and police to try to stop the burgeoning corporate frauds in NZ that seem to be escalating as there are not enough investigations for the large and increasing amount of white collar fraudsters operating in NZ and preying on victims here. Many of who are repeat offenders.

Victims are then left in limbo with poverty issues and reduced mental health. 

Just helping someone on the street can earn you a fractured jaw!
Good Samaritan left with fractured jaw after being robbed and assaulted on the Crown Range
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/124678555/good-samaritan-left-with-fractured-jaw-after-being-robbed-and-assaulted-on-the-crown-range

NZ likes to obsess about property while Rome burns. Seems to be a gap between the obsession with landlords and a lack of interest on why people are still renting longer and more of them (aka crime, low wages, NZ awash with social harmers) with the my little pony mentality that this doesn&#039;t exist and somehow everyone will get on the property ladder (aka new homes to buy seem to be the government&#039;s priority) while not helping people earn enough money to afford to transition to home ownership (or not be robbed of home ownership by frauds after achieving it).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NZ is turning into a rip off country with rampant profiteering &#8211; in particular profiteering from people who are in a vulnerable place. </p>
<p>Maree Tinsley may go to court over bill from Crime Scene Cleaners after son&#8217;s suicide<br />
<a href="https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/maree-tinsley-may-go-to-court-over-bill-from-crime-scene-cleaners-after-sons-suicide/2RJGR5S24EZUAIIWELH22ZZNHE/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/maree-tinsley-may-go-to-court-over-bill-from-crime-scene-cleaners-after-sons-suicide/2RJGR5S24EZUAIIWELH22ZZNHE/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;The Albany mum&#8217;s adult grandson paid $500 when booking the cleaning online, with a warning &#8220;there could be additional charges for cleaning products etc&#8221;, Tinsley said.&#8221;</p>
<p>They then get a bill for $6300 cleaning fee ($500 to $6300 with no warning!) </p>
<p>Crime Scene Cleaners defends $18,000 bill for cleaning up hoarder&#8217;s house<br />
<a href="https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/crime-scene-cleaners-defends-18000-bill-for-cleaning-up-hoarders-house/2M6KB4X7O4XJMQKEELASEJHZHM/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/crime-scene-cleaners-defends-18000-bill-for-cleaning-up-hoarders-house/2M6KB4X7O4XJMQKEELASEJHZHM/</a></p>
<p>Among other things &#8216;weird phone calls&#8217; from the MD. </p>
<p>&#8220;Both Tinsley and the Palmerston North man&#8217;s daughter described unexpected conversations with Crime Scene Cleaners managing director Carl Loader. He asked Tinsley to appear in a TV programme about suicide, and he told the daughter about one of his workers trying to bring his wife to New Zealand from India.</p>
<p>&#8220;He says things in phone calls that he doesn&#8217;t back up, really weird phone calls,&#8221; the daughter said. &#8220;I really wasn&#8217;t mentally able to battle with someone when you&#8217;re dealing with so many other things.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sadly NZ is turning into a place where you increasingly can&#8217;t trust anyone. </p>
<p>Property puzzle: The pensioner who discovered she didn&#8217;t own her home<br />
<a href="https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/property-puzzle-the-pensioner-who-discovered-she-didnt-own-her-home/UWEBXDRANHZSTM76XZETAGCSVQ/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/property-puzzle-the-pensioner-who-discovered-she-didnt-own-her-home/UWEBXDRANHZSTM76XZETAGCSVQ/</a></p>
<p>Fraud is rampant in NZ and often involving the same offenders who seem to get away with it, again and again &#8211; then refine their frauds into even better and more confusing and complex schemes that become difficult to unpick. </p>
<p>&#8220;A spokesman for the SFO, which typically only examines cases of alleged financial impropriety where the sums involved exceed $5 million, declined to provide details of the complaint, or when a decision would be made whether to formally open an investigation, but said: &#8220;The matter was referred to the SFO by police.&#8221;</p>
<p>Remuera Lawyer Paul Phillips, acting for Rosolowski, said the pattern of transactions, mortgage registrations, and Companies Office filings related to the property was bewildering.</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s a convoluted situation &#8211; but whatever it was, it didn&#8217;t work for Sandra &#8211; it only worked for Peters.&#8221;</p>
<p>Phillips said banks, who repeatedly refinanced the properties in question, and law enforcement, who first received complaints about the matter in 2018, had serious questions to answer.</p>
<p>&#8220;I can&#8217;t say too much about which people are responsible &#8211; but it&#8217;s a disgrace, in my opinion, that the Serious Fraud Office haven&#8217;t picked it up yet,&#8221; he said.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sadly NZ has not ramped up the amount of fraud investigators, SFO and police to try to stop the burgeoning corporate frauds in NZ that seem to be escalating as there are not enough investigations for the large and increasing amount of white collar fraudsters operating in NZ and preying on victims here. Many of who are repeat offenders.</p>
<p>Victims are then left in limbo with poverty issues and reduced mental health. </p>
<p>Just helping someone on the street can earn you a fractured jaw!<br />
Good Samaritan left with fractured jaw after being robbed and assaulted on the Crown Range<br />
<a href="https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/124678555/good-samaritan-left-with-fractured-jaw-after-being-robbed-and-assaulted-on-the-crown-range" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/124678555/good-samaritan-left-with-fractured-jaw-after-being-robbed-and-assaulted-on-the-crown-range</a></p>
<p>NZ likes to obsess about property while Rome burns. Seems to be a gap between the obsession with landlords and a lack of interest on why people are still renting longer and more of them (aka crime, low wages, NZ awash with social harmers) with the my little pony mentality that this doesn&#8217;t exist and somehow everyone will get on the property ladder (aka new homes to buy seem to be the government&#8217;s priority) while not helping people earn enough money to afford to transition to home ownership (or not be robbed of home ownership by frauds after achieving it).</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2021 07:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nothing but big farts coming out in the form of policies from this government. The latest has yet to pass the &#039;sniff&#039; test.
When something stinks, it usually means the source of the smell is rotten. This government is rotten, and I&#039;m sick of their stink fart policies. They may as well just take a big metaphoric dump on the poor, beneficiaries, working class, renters, stoners, homeless, mentally ill and vulnerable. I never got sucked in by the spin and voted for them. I could smell their hot air a mile away.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing but big farts coming out in the form of policies from this government. The latest has yet to pass the &#8216;sniff&#8217; test.<br />
When something stinks, it usually means the source of the smell is rotten. This government is rotten, and I&#8217;m sick of their stink fart policies. They may as well just take a big metaphoric dump on the poor, beneficiaries, working class, renters, stoners, homeless, mentally ill and vulnerable. I never got sucked in by the spin and voted for them. I could smell their hot air a mile away.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2021 07:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey but it&#039;s all good, thank&#039;s to National and ACT, us rich pricks don&#039;t give a shit!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey but it&#8217;s all good, thank&#8217;s to National and ACT, us rich pricks don&#8217;t give a shit!</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2021 03:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Actually the Labour Party does  not mention child poverty ( or povidy as our pm says ). It was an election slogan for the bewildered and confused. It served its purpose.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually the Labour Party does  not mention child poverty ( or povidy as our pm says ). It was an election slogan for the bewildered and confused. It served its purpose.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2021 00:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[...&#039;&#039;We need to be kinder to humans and crueller to Corporations&#039;&#039;...

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Hear hear ! And I agree with everything said in the above article. Cant fault it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;&#8221;We need to be kinder to humans and crueller to Corporations&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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<p>Hear hear ! And I agree with everything said in the above article. Cant fault it.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2021 00:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think politics, science, economics or anything else can reasonably explained inequality. 

I&#039;d say that:

inequality is dependent on wealth

That there can be no decoupling of wealth and inequality

That animated intentions is impossible with out mindless animated intentions and that life is contingent and destructible phenomenon. 

So if we except those 4 notions of financial Darwinism and then seek out philosophical notions that are responsive to financial Darwinism there are 2 routes we can take.

One route is we can mobilise to debunk the economics ideologies and so on.

The other and what I&#039;ve been eluding to recently is to construct a notion of internal dialogue about financial Darwinism that is consistent with some basic philosophical notions.

It&#039;s almost like we all on the left are communist leaders and we know better than everyone else. And I&#039;m not trying to patronise we have bright people here on the daily blog and there are guys who are not bright and simplify to much and then you get lefties coming in saying we know more. 

So I believe that philosophy is essential because science and so on isn&#039;t doing the entire job.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think politics, science, economics or anything else can reasonably explained inequality. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d say that:</p>
<p>inequality is dependent on wealth</p>
<p>That there can be no decoupling of wealth and inequality</p>
<p>That animated intentions is impossible with out mindless animated intentions and that life is contingent and destructible phenomenon. </p>
<p>So if we except those 4 notions of financial Darwinism and then seek out philosophical notions that are responsive to financial Darwinism there are 2 routes we can take.</p>
<p>One route is we can mobilise to debunk the economics ideologies and so on.</p>
<p>The other and what I&#8217;ve been eluding to recently is to construct a notion of internal dialogue about financial Darwinism that is consistent with some basic philosophical notions.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s almost like we all on the left are communist leaders and we know better than everyone else. And I&#8217;m not trying to patronise we have bright people here on the daily blog and there are guys who are not bright and simplify to much and then you get lefties coming in saying we know more. </p>
<p>So I believe that philosophy is essential because science and so on isn&#8217;t doing the entire job.</p>
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