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		By: Iain Mclean		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Iain Mclean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2017 13:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/herald-fairfax-watch-we-are-in-denial-over-the-why-of-suicide-in-new-zealand/#comment-54509&quot;&gt;Archonblatter&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;b&gt;[Comment declined for publication. Off-topic. - Scarletmod]&lt;/b&gt;]]></description>
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<p><b>[Comment declined for publication. Off-topic. &#8211; Scarletmod]</b></p>
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		By: grumpystilskin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[grumpystilskin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jul 2017 11:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/herald-fairfax-watch-we-are-in-denial-over-the-why-of-suicide-in-new-zealand/#comment-54494&quot;&gt;Red Buzzard&lt;/a&gt;.

He only spent 3 days in Auschwitz and it&#039;s full of factual errors. You really need to do a bit more research on anyone reporting to be a holocaust survivor.
Here&#039;s just one review.  
 
http://muse.jhu.edu/article/43137]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/herald-fairfax-watch-we-are-in-denial-over-the-why-of-suicide-in-new-zealand/#comment-54494">Red Buzzard</a>.</p>
<p>He only spent 3 days in Auschwitz and it&#8217;s full of factual errors. You really need to do a bit more research on anyone reporting to be a holocaust survivor.<br />
Here&#8217;s just one review.  </p>
<p><a href="http://muse.jhu.edu/article/43137" rel="nofollow ugc">http://muse.jhu.edu/article/43137</a></p>
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		By: JR Murphy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JR Murphy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jul 2017 00:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/herald-fairfax-watch-we-are-in-denial-over-the-why-of-suicide-in-new-zealand/#comment-54501&quot;&gt;Anubis&lt;/a&gt;.

EXACTLY - I tell people that in the Wairarapa/New Zealand and you&#039;re abused for it, terrorised by police, justice and health agencies.

Kia kaha to us all]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/herald-fairfax-watch-we-are-in-denial-over-the-why-of-suicide-in-new-zealand/#comment-54501">Anubis</a>.</p>
<p>EXACTLY &#8211; I tell people that in the Wairarapa/New Zealand and you&#8217;re abused for it, terrorised by police, justice and health agencies.</p>
<p>Kia kaha to us all</p>
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		By: JR Murphy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JR Murphy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jul 2017 23:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/herald-fairfax-watch-we-are-in-denial-over-the-why-of-suicide-in-new-zealand/#comment-54491&quot;&gt;Nitrium&lt;/a&gt;.

Being an atheist and intelligent makes it extremely difficult for you, I understand.  I am a very spiritual person and have lots of people who are atheist - although I don&#039;t consider myself religious (that&#039;s a whole different creepy thing to my beliefs).

My family and friends would be better off without a worthless invalid like me, only thing that keeps me alive is knowing neo-liberal terrorist scum want me to suicide and shut up about what they are doing to people.  Check out my website, I suggest being a big pain in the butt to the system might make you feel a bit better.  Especially using art/words/chalking etc like I do. jrmurphypoet.com

Kia kaha]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/herald-fairfax-watch-we-are-in-denial-over-the-why-of-suicide-in-new-zealand/#comment-54491">Nitrium</a>.</p>
<p>Being an atheist and intelligent makes it extremely difficult for you, I understand.  I am a very spiritual person and have lots of people who are atheist &#8211; although I don&#8217;t consider myself religious (that&#8217;s a whole different creepy thing to my beliefs).</p>
<p>My family and friends would be better off without a worthless invalid like me, only thing that keeps me alive is knowing neo-liberal terrorist scum want me to suicide and shut up about what they are doing to people.  Check out my website, I suggest being a big pain in the butt to the system might make you feel a bit better.  Especially using art/words/chalking etc like I do. jrmurphypoet.com</p>
<p>Kia kaha</p>
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		By: JR Murphy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JR Murphy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jul 2017 22:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with a lot of what you say Martyn, except you missing the point that neo-liberalism is actually illegal under New Zealand laws - Westminister Statute the 1st and Magna Carta - which are laws according to the LEGISLATION.COM printout I have.

You also not seeing that majority of these people are abuse victims, who are SENSITIVE CLAIMANTS under ACC legislation.  As ACC are corrupt and not providing the extensive rehabilitation disabled mentally injured abuse victims are entitled to these traumatised people are more susceptible to stress of our grotesque neo-liberal culture.

Then of course I have just realised neo-liberals purposely terrorise people in order to create fear in the population and jobs for large numbers of people.  Worked that out after watching THE SHOCK DOCTORINE about the rise of neo-liberalism and how it was done in places like New Zealand.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with a lot of what you say Martyn, except you missing the point that neo-liberalism is actually illegal under New Zealand laws &#8211; Westminister Statute the 1st and Magna Carta &#8211; which are laws according to the LEGISLATION.COM printout I have.</p>
<p>You also not seeing that majority of these people are abuse victims, who are SENSITIVE CLAIMANTS under ACC legislation.  As ACC are corrupt and not providing the extensive rehabilitation disabled mentally injured abuse victims are entitled to these traumatised people are more susceptible to stress of our grotesque neo-liberal culture.</p>
<p>Then of course I have just realised neo-liberals purposely terrorise people in order to create fear in the population and jobs for large numbers of people.  Worked that out after watching THE SHOCK DOCTORINE about the rise of neo-liberalism and how it was done in places like New Zealand.</p>
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		By: JR Murphy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JR Murphy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jul 2017 22:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/herald-fairfax-watch-we-are-in-denial-over-the-why-of-suicide-in-new-zealand/#comment-54495&quot;&gt;Red Buzzard&lt;/a&gt;.

Why you putting up phone numbers that go nowhere?  That hang up on you or have police sent round to strip you naked and terrorise you, or worse have you committed, forcibly drugged until you say what they want you to hear before they will let you out.

Ignorance is bliss, these phone numbers go nowhere - except to hell!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/herald-fairfax-watch-we-are-in-denial-over-the-why-of-suicide-in-new-zealand/#comment-54495">Red Buzzard</a>.</p>
<p>Why you putting up phone numbers that go nowhere?  That hang up on you or have police sent round to strip you naked and terrorise you, or worse have you committed, forcibly drugged until you say what they want you to hear before they will let you out.</p>
<p>Ignorance is bliss, these phone numbers go nowhere &#8211; except to hell!</p>
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		By: Helena		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Helena]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jul 2017 20:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/herald-fairfax-watch-we-are-in-denial-over-the-why-of-suicide-in-new-zealand/#comment-54498&quot;&gt;Red Buzzard&lt;/a&gt;.

Worth a read &#039;cause it aint coming it&#039;s already here but now being put into &quot;rolls royce&quot; mode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMJrcHg0ufc
You already think you&#039;re depressed whether you want to be or not.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/herald-fairfax-watch-we-are-in-denial-over-the-why-of-suicide-in-new-zealand/#comment-54498">Red Buzzard</a>.</p>
<p>Worth a read &#8217;cause it aint coming it&#8217;s already here but now being put into &#8220;rolls royce&#8221; mode: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMJrcHg0ufc" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMJrcHg0ufc</a><br />
You already think you&#8217;re depressed whether you want to be or not.</p>
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		By: Archonblatter		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jul 2017 03:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Masked Moa &#038; Iain McLain. Valuable information and further understanding very much appreciated.
Perhaps  the time is not too far off when knowledge of our electro-magnetic environment will emerge as a major factor in the process of human liberation. I think this was something understood in more ancient times but styled in other terms.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Masked Moa &amp; Iain McLain. Valuable information and further understanding very much appreciated.<br />
Perhaps  the time is not too far off when knowledge of our electro-magnetic environment will emerge as a major factor in the process of human liberation. I think this was something understood in more ancient times but styled in other terms.</p>
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		By: Historian Pete		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Historian Pete]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jul 2017 22:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/herald-fairfax-watch-we-are-in-denial-over-the-why-of-suicide-in-new-zealand/#comment-54507&quot;&gt;Iain Mclean&lt;/a&gt;.

Masked Moa and Iain Mclain are in combination on to it.In 1970 this suicidal mentality was not evident. What has transpired in between now and then explains much. Look at what the capitalist corporations have done to us and in particular the U.S, where the life expectancy is diminishing .They have destroyed the nutritional value of most of our foods. Monsanto and others have contaminated our food supply. The pharmaceutical companies are addicting and destroying the population .The U.S Empire and Western lackeys are destroying the planet with their insane predatory  and warmongering behaviour .The problem is capitalism.The solution is socialism.A society that is run on the principles  of the greater good prevailing , a sharing of resources, all mankind working together ,the  greedy restricted , will not  make suicide a viable option!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/herald-fairfax-watch-we-are-in-denial-over-the-why-of-suicide-in-new-zealand/#comment-54507">Iain Mclean</a>.</p>
<p>Masked Moa and Iain Mclain are in combination on to it.In 1970 this suicidal mentality was not evident. What has transpired in between now and then explains much. Look at what the capitalist corporations have done to us and in particular the U.S, where the life expectancy is diminishing .They have destroyed the nutritional value of most of our foods. Monsanto and others have contaminated our food supply. The pharmaceutical companies are addicting and destroying the population .The U.S Empire and Western lackeys are destroying the planet with their insane predatory  and warmongering behaviour .The problem is capitalism.The solution is socialism.A society that is run on the principles  of the greater good prevailing , a sharing of resources, all mankind working together ,the  greedy restricted , will not  make suicide a viable option!</p>
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		By: Iain Mclean		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jul 2017 13:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Martyn;

Thanks for this article as I had no idea of the staggering figures involved.

The very first thing about this subject I would like to know is how many victims
have actually been prescribed anti-depressants or psycho-trophic drugs. 
Any drugs ,for that matter, as there is evidence to suggest such a linkage.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2016/06/30/ssri-antidepressants-suicide-risk.aspx

http://search.mercola.com/results.aspx?q=suicide

http://www.mercola.com/


As for;
“In a society that has no religious faith and all the cultural maturity of a can of coke, the bonds which keep us attached are frail and disconnected. In our fetishisation of individualism we have lost the central part of the human condition – connection.”

While you have touched on something here, I feel it goes much deeper.
We need to be aware that a lot of this &#039;pop – culture&#039; of today is actually a top down affair. 

We are indoctrinated/brainwashed from the messages contained in media/Hollywood and the music industries. Add the games and cell phone addictions. 
A break from all this surely could help those in trouble while they are re-grounding 
themselves in a healing process, while at the same time realizing that these are what I call &#039;weaponized&#039;, like so much of the news we receive as well.

Masked Moa,above, touched on the very important issue of healthy diet, nutrition and importance of de-toxicfication with all the chemicals in our food and environment.
(see Mercola above.)


Exercise and movement is important as well. Sport, cycling or just walking along the  beach with bare feet on the wet sand by the waters edge can be healing in itself. 
A process called Earthing. Ie; recharging the cells of your body.
(see Mercola.Wet grass also)

And last but not least,our Western Faiths have separated us from nature,
( Ie; put man above the animal kingdom when this not the case at all) while
 some Eastern Faiths teach meditation techniques and very much see the importance of harmony with Nature.

These last two links very much helped me with my depressive  episode in life.
We all seem to have one,don&#039;t we?  It&#039;s part of life,surely,and should not end up
as a chronic condition with ongoing chemical medication.

It was the awareness of where humankind stands in the Universal Scheme of Things.

By taking the focus away from my immediate situation and surroundings and
realizing that we are all literally part of the cosmos – all life is – and it is a paradigm that has not been taught.
(In fact I believe it has been kept from us for over 100yrs at least)

That is we are surrounded in an electro-magnetic environment/world/solar system/Universe and all life, plants included, are all driven by this same phenomenon.  
It explains so much and the evidence, I believe, is now overwhelming.

Something I believe we should all understand before we die.

Read ‘The Electric Sky’ first. Much easier. 4th-5th form Physics.
http://electric-cosmos.org/indexOLD.htm
Then will ready you for the live site with Conferences.
https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/ I find the picture of the day interesting.

Thunderbolts.info has a new column that deals with the Electricity of Life.

For more detail read my 2nd reply to Helena found here;
https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2017/03/12/funny-that-we-can-have-extreme-weather-event-after-extreme-weather-event-still-no-media-mentions-climate-change/

Cheers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martyn;</p>
<p>Thanks for this article as I had no idea of the staggering figures involved.</p>
<p>The very first thing about this subject I would like to know is how many victims<br />
have actually been prescribed anti-depressants or psycho-trophic drugs.<br />
Any drugs ,for that matter, as there is evidence to suggest such a linkage.</p>
<p><a href="http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2016/06/30/ssri-antidepressants-suicide-risk.aspx" rel="nofollow ugc">http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2016/06/30/ssri-antidepressants-suicide-risk.aspx</a></p>
<p><a href="http://search.mercola.com/results.aspx?q=suicide" rel="nofollow ugc">http://search.mercola.com/results.aspx?q=suicide</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.mercola.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.mercola.com/</a></p>
<p>As for;<br />
“In a society that has no religious faith and all the cultural maturity of a can of coke, the bonds which keep us attached are frail and disconnected. In our fetishisation of individualism we have lost the central part of the human condition – connection.”</p>
<p>While you have touched on something here, I feel it goes much deeper.<br />
We need to be aware that a lot of this &#8216;pop – culture&#8217; of today is actually a top down affair. </p>
<p>We are indoctrinated/brainwashed from the messages contained in media/Hollywood and the music industries. Add the games and cell phone addictions.<br />
A break from all this surely could help those in trouble while they are re-grounding<br />
themselves in a healing process, while at the same time realizing that these are what I call &#8216;weaponized&#8217;, like so much of the news we receive as well.</p>
<p>Masked Moa,above, touched on the very important issue of healthy diet, nutrition and importance of de-toxicfication with all the chemicals in our food and environment.<br />
(see Mercola above.)</p>
<p>Exercise and movement is important as well. Sport, cycling or just walking along the  beach with bare feet on the wet sand by the waters edge can be healing in itself.<br />
A process called Earthing. Ie; recharging the cells of your body.<br />
(see Mercola.Wet grass also)</p>
<p>And last but not least,our Western Faiths have separated us from nature,<br />
( Ie; put man above the animal kingdom when this not the case at all) while<br />
 some Eastern Faiths teach meditation techniques and very much see the importance of harmony with Nature.</p>
<p>These last two links very much helped me with my depressive  episode in life.<br />
We all seem to have one,don&#8217;t we?  It&#8217;s part of life,surely,and should not end up<br />
as a chronic condition with ongoing chemical medication.</p>
<p>It was the awareness of where humankind stands in the Universal Scheme of Things.</p>
<p>By taking the focus away from my immediate situation and surroundings and<br />
realizing that we are all literally part of the cosmos – all life is – and it is a paradigm that has not been taught.<br />
(In fact I believe it has been kept from us for over 100yrs at least)</p>
<p>That is we are surrounded in an electro-magnetic environment/world/solar system/Universe and all life, plants included, are all driven by this same phenomenon.<br />
It explains so much and the evidence, I believe, is now overwhelming.</p>
<p>Something I believe we should all understand before we die.</p>
<p>Read ‘The Electric Sky’ first. Much easier. 4th-5th form Physics.<br />
<a href="http://electric-cosmos.org/indexOLD.htm" rel="nofollow ugc">http://electric-cosmos.org/indexOLD.htm</a><br />
Then will ready you for the live site with Conferences.<br />
<a href="https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/</a> I find the picture of the day interesting.</p>
<p>Thunderbolts.info has a new column that deals with the Electricity of Life.</p>
<p>For more detail read my 2nd reply to Helena found here;<br />
<a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2017/03/12/funny-that-we-can-have-extreme-weather-event-after-extreme-weather-event-still-no-media-mentions-climate-change/" rel="ugc">https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2017/03/12/funny-that-we-can-have-extreme-weather-event-after-extreme-weather-event-still-no-media-mentions-climate-change/</a></p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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