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		By: CLEANGREEN		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/guest-blog-john-tamihere-the-price-of-citizenship/#comment-132701</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CLEANGREEN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2020 22:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/guest-blog-john-tamihere-the-price-of-citizenship/#comment-132693&quot;&gt;Michal&lt;/a&gt;.

Well said Michal.

Using planes to spray aerial fertiliser - is even another danger to us all.

As when they sppray the fertiliser around our &#039;air space&#039;as we are trying to recover from Codid 19 the chemical fertiliser enters the lungs and this is know to harm us.

When we breath this could cause un-seen deaths from some complications from lung funtion alone.

So the aerial fertiliser companies are once again acting reckless anda threat - dangerous to our health twice over and should be totally banned during the lockdownat least showing again that the  NZ Ministry of health is again &#039;asleep at the wheel here absent from protecting public health.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/guest-blog-john-tamihere-the-price-of-citizenship/#comment-132693">Michal</a>.</p>
<p>Well said Michal.</p>
<p>Using planes to spray aerial fertiliser &#8211; is even another danger to us all.</p>
<p>As when they sppray the fertiliser around our &#8216;air space&#8217;as we are trying to recover from Codid 19 the chemical fertiliser enters the lungs and this is know to harm us.</p>
<p>When we breath this could cause un-seen deaths from some complications from lung funtion alone.</p>
<p>So the aerial fertiliser companies are once again acting reckless anda threat &#8211; dangerous to our health twice over and should be totally banned during the lockdownat least showing again that the  NZ Ministry of health is again &#8216;asleep at the wheel here absent from protecting public health.</p>
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		By: Greywarbler		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greywarbler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2020 21:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m just thinking - if we get John Tamihere going further in politics - though some might consider him a crushed reed, he is still in touch with Maori, still in touch with his Maori roots and they may be strong enough to struggle through the pollution of neo liberalism and mindless, thoughtless tech-think.     While they keep dancing in their grass skirts, sticking their tongues out at imposed ways, and learning from the modern world what is helpful and wise but also holding onto their own culture, there will be real people in NZ to look to for guidance on how to be.

Tamihere tries to be a Navigator.   We need to reset our compasses and follow him to see if he can find the way that pakeha and lost Maori should traverse.    And there are other Maori Navigators male and female to follow, and some to beware of who are misled about their path, so need careful consideration.    But this comment from Eco Maori with a Karakia to Tanemahuta speaks to the heart.   Even though the words aren&#039;t understood, their prayerful, respectful intent and sincerity and poetry in the flow and sound of the words draws a response to those who listen with open minds.
https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-23-04-2020/#comment-1706397 Karakia to Tanemahuta.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just thinking &#8211; if we get John Tamihere going further in politics &#8211; though some might consider him a crushed reed, he is still in touch with Maori, still in touch with his Maori roots and they may be strong enough to struggle through the pollution of neo liberalism and mindless, thoughtless tech-think.     While they keep dancing in their grass skirts, sticking their tongues out at imposed ways, and learning from the modern world what is helpful and wise but also holding onto their own culture, there will be real people in NZ to look to for guidance on how to be.</p>
<p>Tamihere tries to be a Navigator.   We need to reset our compasses and follow him to see if he can find the way that pakeha and lost Maori should traverse.    And there are other Maori Navigators male and female to follow, and some to beware of who are misled about their path, so need careful consideration.    But this comment from Eco Maori with a Karakia to Tanemahuta speaks to the heart.   Even though the words aren&#8217;t understood, their prayerful, respectful intent and sincerity and poetry in the flow and sound of the words draws a response to those who listen with open minds.<br />
<a href="https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-23-04-2020/#comment-1706397" rel="nofollow ugc">https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-23-04-2020/#comment-1706397</a> Karakia to Tanemahuta.</p>
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		By: D'Esterre		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[D'Esterre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2020 08:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/guest-blog-john-tamihere-the-price-of-citizenship/#comment-132692&quot;&gt;simonm&lt;/a&gt;.

Simonm: &quot;It’s loaded with dickheads who believe Jacinda has trampled on their God-given right to be an arsehole. You’ll feel right at home.&quot;

Ok: I&#039;ve been through the comment thread on that post. The shouting majority of comments are about Trump, with a couple or so about Ardern. You sure you&#039;ve got the right post there?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/guest-blog-john-tamihere-the-price-of-citizenship/#comment-132692">simonm</a>.</p>
<p>Simonm: &#8220;It’s loaded with dickheads who believe Jacinda has trampled on their God-given right to be an arsehole. You’ll feel right at home.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ok: I&#8217;ve been through the comment thread on that post. The shouting majority of comments are about Trump, with a couple or so about Ardern. You sure you&#8217;ve got the right post there?</p>
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		By: GreenBus		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/guest-blog-john-tamihere-the-price-of-citizenship/#comment-132698</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GreenBus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2020 06:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Your one of those idiots that can&#039;t follows the rules. It&#039;s not for long, really. What&#039;s the problem? Do you know better that everybody else? I think, you think you do. Well guess what, you are a waste of time, an oxygen thief! All your comments are right wing shit, why are you here?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your one of those idiots that can&#8217;t follows the rules. It&#8217;s not for long, really. What&#8217;s the problem? Do you know better that everybody else? I think, you think you do. Well guess what, you are a waste of time, an oxygen thief! All your comments are right wing shit, why are you here?</p>
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		By: Greywarbler		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greywarbler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2020 05:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/guest-blog-john-tamihere-the-price-of-citizenship/#comment-132693&quot;&gt;Michal&lt;/a&gt;.

Whinger, nit picker.   Someone who is secure with no business at stake, or is looking to make it hard for others who  have to move before the universal lock down lifts - it might in this case be fitting in with the weather.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/guest-blog-john-tamihere-the-price-of-citizenship/#comment-132693">Michal</a>.</p>
<p>Whinger, nit picker.   Someone who is secure with no business at stake, or is looking to make it hard for others who  have to move before the universal lock down lifts &#8211; it might in this case be fitting in with the weather.</p>
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		By: bert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2020 04:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/guest-blog-john-tamihere-the-price-of-citizenship/#comment-132692&quot;&gt;simonm&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes Simonm, far right wing, or should I say extreme far right wing opinions are better suited elsewhere. Free speech both right and left are welcome but  Andrews comments are neither.

Should he heed his own words and how about he book a flight to America. Once flights resume of course, Donald will welcome you with open arms Andrew!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/guest-blog-john-tamihere-the-price-of-citizenship/#comment-132692">simonm</a>.</p>
<p>Yes Simonm, far right wing, or should I say extreme far right wing opinions are better suited elsewhere. Free speech both right and left are welcome but  Andrews comments are neither.</p>
<p>Should he heed his own words and how about he book a flight to America. Once flights resume of course, Donald will welcome you with open arms Andrew!</p>
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		By: Greywarbler		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/guest-blog-john-tamihere-the-price-of-citizenship/#comment-132695</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greywarbler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2020 03:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is relevant to what John Tamihere is saying.   The country has relied on Maori to boost its defence forces, and the fact that Maori as with other indigenous people are often found with higher levels of unemployment has made the forces a go-to for social mobility.   But it appears that the cost is high.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/te-manu-korihi/415107/nearly-80-percent-of-maori-military-personnel-have-ptsd-symptoms

&lt;i&gt;A University of Otago study of 1817 New Zealand military personnel has found one in three have symptoms of post traumatic stress, and one in 10 would likely be diagnosed with PTSD.

The results suggest that the prevalence of clinically significant post traumatic stress is higher among military personnel compared with the general population, where rates are estimated to be 3 percent.
Lead researcher David McBride said of the 256 Māori who took part in the study, 78 percent showed at least some symptoms of post traumatic stress.&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is relevant to what John Tamihere is saying.   The country has relied on Maori to boost its defence forces, and the fact that Maori as with other indigenous people are often found with higher levels of unemployment has made the forces a go-to for social mobility.   But it appears that the cost is high.<br />
<a href="https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/te-manu-korihi/415107/nearly-80-percent-of-maori-military-personnel-have-ptsd-symptoms" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/te-manu-korihi/415107/nearly-80-percent-of-maori-military-personnel-have-ptsd-symptoms</a></p>
<p><i>A University of Otago study of 1817 New Zealand military personnel has found one in three have symptoms of post traumatic stress, and one in 10 would likely be diagnosed with PTSD.</p>
<p>The results suggest that the prevalence of clinically significant post traumatic stress is higher among military personnel compared with the general population, where rates are estimated to be 3 percent.<br />
Lead researcher David McBride said of the 256 Māori who took part in the study, 78 percent showed at least some symptoms of post traumatic stress.</i></p>
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		By: simonm		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2020 02:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s a nice speech John. I&#039;ll certainly be reading it again if you end up propping up another National government for 9 years like your Maori Party predecessors.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a nice speech John. I&#8217;ll certainly be reading it again if you end up propping up another National government for 9 years like your Maori Party predecessors.</p>
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		By: Michal		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2020 02:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yesterday a man was killed in a plane as it took off to do top dressing.  The truck supplying the top dressing was on the ground having filled the plane.  Interesting, not an essential service at all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yesterday a man was killed in a plane as it took off to do top dressing.  The truck supplying the top dressing was on the ground having filled the plane.  Interesting, not an essential service at all.</p>
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		By: simonm		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[simonm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2020 02:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Give this site a go instead Ross:

www.kiwiblog.co.nz

It&#039;s loaded with dickheads who believe Jacinda has trampled on their God-given right to be an arsehole. You&#039;ll feel right at home.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give this site a go instead Ross:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s loaded with dickheads who believe Jacinda has trampled on their God-given right to be an arsehole. You&#8217;ll feel right at home.</p>
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