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		By: dave brown		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jul 2017 00:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/guest-blog-dave-brownz-dont-vote-for-the-ruling-class/#comment-54482&quot;&gt;Historian Pete&lt;/a&gt;.

Pete those are all good points. Thanks. I became a Marxist about the same time as you. Will try to flesh out this post in following posts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/guest-blog-dave-brownz-dont-vote-for-the-ruling-class/#comment-54482">Historian Pete</a>.</p>
<p>Pete those are all good points. Thanks. I became a Marxist about the same time as you. Will try to flesh out this post in following posts.</p>
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		By: Historian Pete		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Historian Pete]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2017 22:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/guest-blog-dave-brownz-dont-vote-for-the-ruling-class/#comment-54480&quot;&gt;dave brown&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for the job offer Dave,but I am already engaged on the DB ,as a poster.I am just giving you the benefit of 33 years I have spent educating pupils and workers. Ages ranging from 3 to 73 . The secret in my opinion is  to not construct a system and then try to fit the recipient into it .It is to start with the individual or  the group, and to tailor what you communicate to their  experiences,their aspirations. If it is relevant to them  and you gain their interest ,you can then start to build on this and to lead them in the direction you want.It has to be contemporary.Lenin gained a following by promising  &quot;peace, land and bread&quot;  ,absolutely relevant to his situation. Incidently I was recruited into a Marxist group in 1968. I did not know that it was a Marxist group until several weeks after I joined , however their message reflected my alienation in language relevant to me. Keep up the struggle!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/guest-blog-dave-brownz-dont-vote-for-the-ruling-class/#comment-54480">dave brown</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for the job offer Dave,but I am already engaged on the DB ,as a poster.I am just giving you the benefit of 33 years I have spent educating pupils and workers. Ages ranging from 3 to 73 . The secret in my opinion is  to not construct a system and then try to fit the recipient into it .It is to start with the individual or  the group, and to tailor what you communicate to their  experiences,their aspirations. If it is relevant to them  and you gain their interest ,you can then start to build on this and to lead them in the direction you want.It has to be contemporary.Lenin gained a following by promising  &#8220;peace, land and bread&#8221;  ,absolutely relevant to his situation. Incidently I was recruited into a Marxist group in 1968. I did not know that it was a Marxist group until several weeks after I joined , however their message reflected my alienation in language relevant to me. Keep up the struggle!</p>
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		By: dave brown		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2017 11:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Castro, do you really think that workers who steal from other workers are part of a revolutionary class?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Castro, do you really think that workers who steal from other workers are part of a revolutionary class?</p>
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		By: dave brown		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2017 11:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/guest-blog-dave-brownz-dont-vote-for-the-ruling-class/#comment-54477&quot;&gt;Historian Pete&lt;/a&gt;.

Pete, give it a go. I am sure that TDB would benefit from a blog that reaches a far wider audience.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/guest-blog-dave-brownz-dont-vote-for-the-ruling-class/#comment-54477">Historian Pete</a>.</p>
<p>Pete, give it a go. I am sure that TDB would benefit from a blog that reaches a far wider audience.</p>
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		By: John W		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John W]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2017 06:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[John A Lee led the way in the 1930 Labour movement.  He was a prolific writer and among many texts he generated was  a widely distributed booklet on the debt finance system that gives the banks money and power to control countries and their politicians.

The banks defeated the Labour party before they could nationalise the money system.   Banks have increased their wealth and power since.

http://www.wow.com/wiki/John_A._Lee

Pepe recognised the  stupidity of having rich men in Govt.
 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/23/mujica-rich-people-politics_n_6036892.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John A Lee led the way in the 1930 Labour movement.  He was a prolific writer and among many texts he generated was  a widely distributed booklet on the debt finance system that gives the banks money and power to control countries and their politicians.</p>
<p>The banks defeated the Labour party before they could nationalise the money system.   Banks have increased their wealth and power since.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wow.com/wiki/John_A._Lee" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.wow.com/wiki/John_A._Lee</a></p>
<p>Pepe recognised the  stupidity of having rich men in Govt.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/23/mujica-rich-people-politics_n_6036892.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/23/mujica-rich-people-politics_n_6036892.html</a></p>
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		By: CLEANGREEN		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2017 01:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Its time for a radical change as we had when the 1930&#039;s generated &quot;The new deal&quot; and then Egalitarianism which is when I was raised through a stormy time of right wing resistance Sid Holland and his 1951 Wharf strike which forced Dad as a &quot;black-listed picket sticker&quot; Holland forced me and our family to leave Auckland and we take our hat off to those freedom fighters who followed to make our country better until Holland&#039;s replacements turned up again to haunt us all as they do now.

Yes it&#039;s time to rise up again.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its time for a radical change as we had when the 1930&#8217;s generated &#8220;The new deal&#8221; and then Egalitarianism which is when I was raised through a stormy time of right wing resistance Sid Holland and his 1951 Wharf strike which forced Dad as a &#8220;black-listed picket sticker&#8221; Holland forced me and our family to leave Auckland and we take our hat off to those freedom fighters who followed to make our country better until Holland&#8217;s replacements turned up again to haunt us all as they do now.</p>
<p>Yes it&#8217;s time to rise up again.</p>
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		By: Historian Pete		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Historian Pete]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2017 23:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If you are going to write in Marxian terms your audience will leave in droves. Nobody gives a rat&#039;s ass about Mr Peel in the 1800s.This same message, which I agree with  , could have been written in every day colloquial English , and used contemporary examples, and would reach a far wider audience!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are going to write in Marxian terms your audience will leave in droves. Nobody gives a rat&#8217;s ass about Mr Peel in the 1800s.This same message, which I agree with  , could have been written in every day colloquial English , and used contemporary examples, and would reach a far wider audience!</p>
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