Yes, sexual misdemeanours are so much worse than outright corruption, money laundering, using govt agencies to smear the opposition! I mean remember January 6th where a group of unarmed people “stormed” (i.e. let in) the Capitol? That was an “attack on democracy”! This is just low-level stuff. Oh wait.

Wow, so you’re saying that Trump was almost as bad on economics as…. every single NZ ‘labour’ government since the 80s? Perish the thought.

Very true. I doubt there’s more than ten people in the GCSB and SIS who are loyal to this nation.

Well said.

You must be an idiot if you believe anything that Putin, or Trump, says!

He was just a sheepherder, his loyalty tied more towards the Dems than to the people. A humongous disappointment.

The fact that nothing like this has happened and that most people are none the wiser about all this crap, just shows how crooked politics has become, ditto the mainstream media machine that allows this crap to flourish. And yet it was only yesterday that more people than ever before trusted politicians and the mainstream media machine. As such, mainstream media is thee single greatest threat to humanity today because they are serving crooks rather than holding them to account!

Trump has been convicted of sexual misdemeanours. Says more about your values than anything Andrew.
Biden has been cleared, Trump has not been and more to come. The worst part, Republicans seem to agree with sexual misconduct.

Trump and his family are throughly corrupt and self serving, but so are the Clintons and Bidens. The main sin of Trump is to be open about it in ways unacceptable to DC polite society. Trump is not an aberration (except in rhetoric), he is a symptom.

His negative populism is virtue signalling to the (mainly white) working class. He’ll say the quiet part out loud (mixed with a lot of BS) but do nothing about it. Rhetoric aside, domestically he governed like a standard issue republican. In foreign policy the Trump doctrine has largely been retained by the Biden administration and ramped up with a neocon agenda.

Russiagate and other narratives around Hillary’s loss, not only allowed the DNC to avoid any introspection, in parallel with MAGA it polarised the political landscape, gave legacy media corporations years of increased advertiser revenue, embedded the partisan outrage business model (originated by Fox) into MSNBC and CNN and other outlets, made a few people like Rachel Maddow very wealthy, primed hostility to Russia and arguably launched or helped launch the identitarian (woke) culture wars into the western mainstream.

That’s a lot of collateral damage just because Hillary and the DNC establishment couldn’t admit they lost to such a terrible candidate.