Comments on: Dr Liz Gordon: Equity, education and economic recovery

By: manfred staab

manfred staab — Tue, 21 Apr 2020 08:21:20 +0000

The Green Read.
https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/green-read-coronavirus-save-planet-200412072241374.html

By: manfred staab

manfred staab — Tue, 21 Apr 2020 00:29:28 +0000

Good Day Dr Liz Gordon. Fine analysis in a condensed timeline. Lot’s of important stuff still hidden in the details required….

Yes, these are the right conclusions and all of those are pretty much realistic, pending on the quality of actual implementation

Is there something missing?

Yes….those changes MUST be embedded in the overall context of the ecological reality that human beings do encounter.

In this ecological reality a clear priority is climate adaptation and the wide range of needed measures: environmentally, economically, socially, spiritually.

Community-centered Early Warning Systems, Disaster Risk Reduction and Disaster Management as initial thematic areas to be further developed.

Combined with a network of localized IT/communication infrastructure.

System Change. Now.

By: WILD KATIPO

WILD KATIPO — Mon, 20 Apr 2020 12:24:16 +0000

talk
https://youtu.be/DTepA-WV_oE?list=PLZpcMq3rN4OcQyNkxR3Eg5sQvi09UD8LX&t=811

This guy , is such an incredible slouch towards evolution he is a colossal failure. With his silver grey hair and his silver beard expounding his ‘so called learned dissertation to the masses’… go fuck yourself , bud.

You are an epic fail and an insult to the intelligence of rest of us , bud. Don’t EVER be taken in by these ‘father figured’ snowy white haired , bearded elder men.They can just as easily be the sociopathic death of you. Don’t listen to the cunts.

talk
https://youtu.be/DTepA-WV_oE?list=PLZpcMq3rN4OcQyNkxR3Eg5sQvi09UD8LX&t=789

Learn as a good Sasquatch,… to always set them apart.

AND weed them out.

By: WILD KATIPO

WILD KATIPO — Mon, 20 Apr 2020 10:50:41 +0000

And this documentary,… amply demonstrates the the loving forgiveness of the veterans one to another , as opposed to demonstrations of the young mans testosterone filled and propaganda filled insanity of killing each other using physical means or economic means…when we see old veterans of both sides, extending love and forgiveness long after the fact of war, and in hindsight….,…

I would like to think that you have learnt of the message of the Sasquatch…that you have learnt the message of the old sages, the thinkers and the philosophers,…

Yet have you ?

Mahoe man,… Maeroero…

Have you?

James Robertson: The Untold Civil War | Nat Geo Live
https://youtu.be/00PESzVA_Bw?t=1536

So come on now, let us not pitch our young men and women against each other anymore….because the hours getting late…

The Jimi Hendrix Experience – All Along The Watchtower (Audio)
https://youtu.be/TLV4_xaYynY?t=49

C’mon now Liz , the hours getting late.

Lets get real here.

By: WILD KATIPO

WILD KATIPO — Mon, 20 Apr 2020 10:01:36 +0000

And if you think nature cant teach you a thing,… watch this. @ 6.35 in, absorb the bald eagles message. It was more than just a mascot for the Army of the Potomac.

James Robertson: The Untold Civil War | Nat Geo Live
https://youtu.be/00PESzVA_Bw?t=389

By: WILD KATIPO

WILD KATIPO — Mon, 20 Apr 2020 09:36:46 +0000

And what about these heroic people then?

Coronavirus: Orana Park thinks outside box to entertain …www.stuff.co.nz › the-press › news › coronavirus-orana-p…Highly educated , dedicated academics ….

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…” The team did not have time for “doom and gloom” though and were coming up with proactive ways to survive post-coronavirus.

Closure was not an option, nor was euthanasia, which would happen “over my dead body”, she said”…

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Wow. If only the mainstream academics thought less of themselves and had the philosophy of these ‘earth workers’,… maybe we wouldn’t be in the same sort of dilemma we are in now, eh?

Always takes a Sasquatch to teach you how to live,… why is that?

By: WILD KATIPO

WILD KATIPO — Mon, 20 Apr 2020 09:15:07 +0000

Yes all very good and altruistic,… but the question remains ,… WHY have these things not been of critical importance for the last 35 years, Liz ?…

WHY the fucking hell not?

And WHO gained from retarding these things, Liz?

WHO and HOW did they achieve this neo liberal consensus , Liz?

WHO were they , HOW did they do it and WHY did they do it Liz?

And WHY did academia stay so silent over THREE FUCKING DECADES, Liz?

I’ll tell you why.

Because grabastic suck – shit academics latched on to a political ideology that could feather their own nests using foreign students to pay exorbitant fees and NZ young national’s to go into massive and disproportionate debt based on the cost of real time inflation in this country and the fucking NZ dollar’s rating / trading on the global FOREX markets , that’s why , Liz.

The govt wins , Liz , because the debt they force on our youngest and brightest cripples them for decades, ensuring they cant even buy a bloody house which then slavers up to the slum landlords, keeping the Aussie banks afloat , – and meanwhile we import tens of thousands of cheap foreigner laborers on ponzi Visa scheme’s using bogus shit certificate study’s to cover their tracks and create downwards pressure on wages and undermine Trade Unions…

This is WHY, Liz ,… this is WHY.

And yet you dream or paint the picture of some sort of future Shangri La bullshit NZ altruistic dream?

It is PRECISELY BECAUSE of the toxic academic sell outs who have successively polluted and bolstered up these far right wing wanker neo liberals over the last 3 decades that we are where we are.When they should have been raising the alarm?… they were disgustingly counting their profits above the welfare of their own countrymen and women.

ALL FOR PECUNIARY GAINS !!!

THAT’S WHY , LIZ!

GREED !!!

By: Hemi

Hemi — Mon, 20 Apr 2020 05:25:22 +0000

"our health system needs to be rebuilt ' damnit she should have said the' whole country needs to be rebuilt .

By: saveNZ

saveNZ — Sun, 19 Apr 2020 23:57:28 +0000

Why you need minimum levels of educated people and basic manufacturing in your own country!

Hospital leaders hit out at government as PPE shortage row escalates
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/apr/19/hospital-leaders-hit-out-government-ppe-shortage-row-escalates-nhs

This is what happens when a former manufacturing super power starts to rely on immigration and tax havens while producing less and less of anything real anymore.

Sounds like the EU is in a similar boat accessing PPE. Britain now seems to be relying on China and Turkey for PPE with disastrous Faulty Towers consequences … weird when Britain used a be a major manufacturer and Germany is also known for manufacturing but somehow with all the member states don’t produce enough medical equipment needed….

Hate to think what will happen when China runs the UK power if the 200,000 PPE turns to 20,000 from China, I guess someone made a profit, removing the 180,000 gowns before shipment… or after… who knows.

Clearly the UK never learn’t from previous lessons when they sent their soldiers off to the fake WMD war with Iraq with boots and guns that didn’t work either…..

Instead of manufacturing, the UK seems to be more invested in certain types of paper businesses with generous tax havens… sarcasm.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/28/uk-and-territories-are-greatest-enabler-of-tax-avoidance-study-says

Why bother making wealth (and educating people to help your economy) when you can buy in dubious money? Easy money is so short term though.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jul/04/golden-visa-immigration-deal-british-citizenship-home-office

NZ is very like Britain in terms of our Thatcher infatuation and going from a manufacturing/farming industry to a reliance on easy immigration, selling foreign degrees and international tax ponzi’s for new residents, rather than value added products that people actually use/eat everyday.

Increasingly countries seem to be relying on essential products that other countries to produce and an 8000 km journey to arrive. (or not).

By: Alan

Alan — Sun, 19 Apr 2020 23:40:39 +0000

“So we are looking for intelligent industries that hire educated workers and pay good wages”. Remember the knowledge wave. That broke some time ago. We then churned out graduates from Universities and PTEs who struggled to find work with the limited prospects available. Many ended up in call centres and endured the first waves of off shoring in IT. The problem was that it was assumed adequate to have pools of trained people and this would somehow morph into a successful knowledge economy without an accompanying industrial or economic development framework. Much work in IT has now become a commodity, the high paying roles now limited to specialized areas with no easy entry level path. Mass immigration has suppressed salaries and conditions. Much of the skilled intermediate work left has been or is destined to become automated in the next few years. Cloud computing has meant the elimination of many well paying tech support roles. Another factor is the tendency of organisations in this sector to be sold overseas or bring in international partners when they reach critical mass, subsequently meaning a downsizing or closure of local faculties. There have been success stories. This will work if there are incentives to create good added value businesses who aren’t simply going to be commodity providers involved in a race to the bottom in terms of pay and conditions. There is scope in many sectors for this, we need to make sure we have joined up thinking in terms of policies needed to make it work this time.