Well done National and well done Simon Bridges.

Keep up the good work and no-one would want to vote for National ever again.

And so if National want to be guarantee-ed of little or No Votes at the election then please do keep Simon Briidges on as leader. He is doing a splendid job at destroying National.

Meanwhile the one I call Sir Lies-alot(aka John Key)has obviously given his backing to the former head of Air NZ. Odd timing is that indeed.

@D’Esterre It is very hard for another business small, medium or large, to compete against another business that is increasingly receiving money from their workers not paying them (and using subcontractors is not excuse) – the franchises and businesses using subcontractors absolutely know (or should know) illegal conduct is going on, and the sad thing is, the legitimate businesses who pay people properly are increasingly going bust or reducing their wages thinking labour is part of their problem!

The reason is that it is migrants involved is that Kiwis will obviously not work below minimum wages, or for nothing and pay their wages back.

It is not racism – it is why migrants are exploding in NZ – why pay staff legally when you don’t have to! Make them pay you!

They need migrants in on the scam to make it work – and if a person is paying back their wages, or are incapable of understanding NZ laws then they should not be working or operating in NZ, both recipients are in on the scam! The migrant gets permanent residency in NZ for them and their family but not on legitimate terms.

That is why I advocate tightening up the visas to pre 1990 levels in terms of costs for business (used to cost minimum $10,000 to sponsor an overseas worker) and all new workers had to pass an English language test (to make sure they understood what was going on in the country they were working in and thus not likely to be exploited) and a health test and a proper worker test that a local could not do the work and there of course needs to be a limit on the visas down to the 10,000 – 15,000 that were being advocated when COL got into power.

Government need to make it 10 -20 years before a person is made a permanent resident to make sure they are of good character, and should not be accessing NZ free health and welfare before then, with a strong audit before permanent residency is given out. (Aka drug dealers are operating in NZ for 26 years without ever even filling out a NZ tax return and people are on welfare and getting a state house while never having had a job in NZ, it’s crazy).

And you are living in fear if you cannot pop in to your friends for a wine or have your kids play with other kids in a park.

Are you actually accusing me of being a Nazi? trust me I am not good looking enough. You will see waves of this flu. and society cannot be shut down forever. And social distancing between human beings is not ok long term. People need affection. social distancing from others is not even legal.

SaveNZ: “Firstly the links are not all small business migrants – often a big recipient of lower labour wages, is the big business listed on the sharemarket that lobbies for the cheap migrant labour to come into NZ.”

I’d guessed that your comment was aimed at me.

Indeed: I stand corrected. Not all of the links are migrants: just most of them. The police and NZ Bus are the exceptions. And Burger King: but that chain has gone bust, courtesy of the bloody virus; though I believe that it was already in the shit financially. No consolation to all of the workers now out of a job, but.

As we understand things, pretty much all of Chorus’s subbies are recent migrants. Some of them have done work for us, and very competent they were, too. But nevertheless: exploitation in that sector is being perpetrated for the most part by recent migrants. Regrettably, it is often recent migrants exploiting other more recent migrants.

While recent migrants may have some excuse for not following the law, New Zealanders working for or running big companies here have none. They deserve to have the book thrown at them.

However, the rest of my comment stands. That sector of small business with which we have dealings follows the law.

The political RW in NZ, including Chris Trotter, have a deep crush on Deborah Russell. The thinking man’s tax wonk.

https://www.thevinnyeastwoodshow.com/vinny-mr-news-eastwoods-blog/john-keys-real-past-exposed-must-see-please-share-6mins

should be @D’Esterre not Snowwhite!

@D’Esterre

Thinking exploitation of labour is good commercial sense in NZ is part of the echo chamber problem.

(Didn’t they say the same thing about slavery and predicting doom and gloom for US when it was outlawed?)

It is clearly is not commercial sense to bring in low cost migrant labour not for the government or the business or society.

NZ is now dysfunctional and now can’t even build an apartment, road, waste pipe drain or house very well or at a decent price.

Local firms are going under as they are constantly undercut by new scams operating in NZ.

We have housing crisis that two different government have tried to stop but somehow using migrant labour and big business running the show, can’t actually build affordable houses anymore, (and even if they could how can they build for 300,000+ year new temp to perm residents who are increasingly very poor) even if they own the land and using the cheap construction labour and materials they bring in for Kiwibuild and everywhere else.

We have created a major quality issues and costs and dysfunction from roads to houses to our health system, going forward by not caring what is going on with the labour and materials and instead thinking that the sticker price and business name (aka using Fletchers when wink, wink, hundreds of subcontractors at the cheapest price of labour to leave a gas torch on cardboard going for 20 mins and burns down Sky city, or the concrete starts cracking and the bridge falls down, or the engineers don’t notice that there is sea water rusting out the steel, in the foundations of the apartments)….

Concrete safety investigator ‘surprised nobody had been killed’
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/402908/concrete-safety-investigator-surprised-nobody-had-been-killed

Multi-storey building flaws ‘almost the norm’
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/340396/multi-storey-building-flaws-almost-the-norm

Government to build world’s most expensive road
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2017/09/government-to-build-most-expensive-road-in-world.html

Apartment complex hit with $32.8m repair bill
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/331505/apartment-complex-hit-with-32-point-8m-repair-bill

Council unable to identify possible defective buildings in capital
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/403417/council-unable-to-identify-possible-defective-buildings-in-capital

Sewage in Wellington marine reserve 43-times worse than acceptable levels
https://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/118890119/sewage-in-wellington-marine-reserve-43times-worse-than-acceptable-levels

Wellington road closed for two months amid waste pipe repair
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/wellington-road-closed-two-months-amid-waste-pipe-repair

Work on burst Taupō waste pipe begins
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/393896/work-on-burst-taupo-waste-pipe-begins

So we don’t get quality buildings but does it bring up the quality of life in NZ???

https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2019/04/jobseeker_benefit_numbers_up_11_in_a_year.html

Kate Hawkesby: Hidden in plain sight – the alarming rise of the working poor
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12043315

Asian drug links reach south with meth deals
https://www.scmp.com/article/724511/asian-drug-links-reach-south-meth-deals

Meth, coke and MDMA: Police reveal how the drugs are in our wastewater
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2019/04/meth-coke-and-mdma-police-reveal-how-the-drugs-are-in-our-wastewater.html

Not gone too good for NZ working poor….
Jobseeker benefit numbers up 11% in a year
https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2019/04/jobseeker_benefit_numbers_up_11_in_a_year.html

Auckland City Mission has its greatest ever demand for food parcels
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2019/01/auckland-city-mission-has-its-greatest-ever-demand-for-food-parcels.html

Not gone too good for the environment or NZ natural resources that seem to be drying up too…

Waihi runs out of water, council distributing water bottles
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2020/02/waihi-runs-out-of-water-council-distributing-water-bottles.html

Our hospital bed rate per capita is lower than 2013. Our health system has gone backwards.

Pensions of which migrants were supposed to help pay to support aged NZer’s are now full of aged migrants instead and Asian pensioners for example is expected to triple in the next few years and surpass the Maori and Pacific Island pensioners combined.

New migrant pensioners legally don’t have to pay a cent of tax in NZ to qualify for free pension, free heath care and free retirement care while current workers are paying Kiwisaver and told they earn too much for a pension, (shouldn’t it be the other way around!).

Some pensioners in NZ are now even sponsoring in migrant boomer spouses after 11 day on line romances and a $10k payment https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/376220/10k-11-days-and-one-failed-deportation Interdistance romances are all the rage to get more migrant boomers into NZ who never paid taxes here https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/117990267/broadcasting-minister-kris-faafoi-promised-to-speed-up-immigration-process-for-opshop-singer-jason-kerrison

Rather than getting productive people into NZ, our immigration has descended into people getting love interests here, low quality workers to be exploited by big and small business who fail to deliver anything, pollution is rife, essential resources running out like water, prices are sky rocketing as the current workers in NZ can’t seem to get anything done anymore!

Can we really say our immigration has been a success in NZ??????

Like all ponzi’s they burst. Is NZ the government is going to ignore it, keep adding more migrants, borrow more money to keep the ponzi going until we turn into bankrupt Greece or Corrupt China with buildings falling down, people begging on the streets, re education camps with free labour, thousands dying with food scams like counterfeit milk happening regularly?