Comments on: Comrades – we need a working definition of ‘Woke’ for the 2023 Election

By: Tui

Tui — Thu, 20 Apr 2023 07:10:22 +0000

In reply to Tui. A distraction to divide the public among themselves while a few wealthy individuals and their facilitators amplify their billions by appearing to tackle real and manufactured social problems in ways they personally benefit from.

By: OnceWasTim

OnceWasTim — Thu, 20 Apr 2023 05:23:11 +0000

“Comrades – we need a working definition of ‘Woke’”
Probably the last thing we need. It’s a term/label that needs early retirement.

But if you must, let’s just agree they/us need purple and pink fluro vests, with perhaps a hint of mauve, and that best efforts will ne made to ensure they never ever get near the most spendiferous, amazing and indubitably undisputed podcast.

Wankers come in all shapes, ages, ethnicities, sexualities and amoebic forms. The best examples are in Parliament and the senior ranks of the pubic service

By: Claire W

Claire W — Thu, 20 Apr 2023 05:01:11 +0000

Neither ‘woke’ nor ‘Nazi’ is going away. I guess the second is worse,, because it trivialises real atrocities – any politician an online commenter doesn’t like risks being called a Nazi. I wonder if people descended from real victims of the Nazis (as I’m not) find this upsetting?

By: Anker

Anker — Thu, 20 Apr 2023 03:53:46 +0000

“contemporary phenomena, such as ‘cancel culture’, ‘diversity’, and ‘gender neutrality’ — all manifestations of woke. Wokes does not seek to engage in reasoned debate but simply to denounce and tear down those deemed to have transgressed the norms of identity politics. But the problem is more pressing because “woke thinking has come to be accepted as common sense” by a cultural elite that dominates the media, corporate life, and the academy, making dissent increasingly difficult and perilous”
from Joanna Williams who wrote a book “how the Woke Won”
I think she emphasis two of the important issues of what I refer to as woke. That an elite have captured our institutions and seek to impose their ideology with no debate, cancellation, smearing and violence if necessary, all the while claiming moral purity.

By: Anker

Anker — Thu, 20 Apr 2023 03:45:10 +0000

Xstraight agree

By: Anker

Anker — Thu, 20 Apr 2023 03:41:43 +0000

In reply to Hollyhock of the Valley. 100% Hollyhock

By: Anker

Anker — Thu, 20 Apr 2023 03:38:45 +0000

“it all ends up as a cacophony of self righteous struggle sessions alienating the vast chunk of voters who just want to know how they are paying for the roof over their heads and the food on their tables.”

Actually it ended up in Albert Park with violence and intimidation shutting down women’s free speech.

By: Cottleblock Mike

Cottleblock Mike — Thu, 20 Apr 2023 02:47:18 +0000

Ironically the wokerati are more neoliberal than any neoliberal with their fetishising of individuality and personal grievance over shared humanity.

By: Tui

Tui — Thu, 20 Apr 2023 01:13:23 +0000

Synonyms

Successor Ideology
A melange of academic radicalism that is vying for hegemony in western culture and institutions. (Wesley Yang)

Baizuo
From mandarin chinese for ‘white left’. Meaning heavy use of political correctness and double standards to covertly advance their own material or emotional interests at the expense of others, while claiming to do the opposite from a self-assumed position of moral superiority.

By: Hollyhock of the Valley

Hollyhock of the Valley — Thu, 20 Apr 2023 00:14:23 +0000

In reply to Peter+H. Peter+H. Thanks for that, it’s really interesting. Considering the New Zealand woke, especially the media and some Green politicians in particular, my first thought was how abysmally ignorant they are of our own short history, and how dishonestly selective when it suits them, so the word has definitely changed in meaning. That probably wouldn’t matter too much, if this uncultured menagerie were not trying to be the controlling agents of not just the narrative, but far too many aspects of ordinary every day life. The original civil rights activists in the USA displayed enormous moral courage at times, and often ventured into literally physically dangerous territory. Some were also gifted with a powerful rhetoric which I think only David Lange had here, and one or two of his predecessors, but the current woke are bleaters who try to victimise and are deliberately divisive, and I’d be reluctant to describe it as cultural appropriation, it seems more cultural degradation.