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		By: National are Squeaky Clean		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[National are Squeaky Clean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2025 17:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/census-changes-really-about-hiding-the-bleeding-gums-of-nzs-poverty-wounds/#comment-332678&quot;&gt;Trevor&lt;/a&gt;.

Where is your proof, you&#039;ve offered an opinion. No facts provided by you Trev and &quot;I know a few people&quot; is fucking hilarious.
Martyn is correct, this is about hiding data and without data this CoC can&#039;t be held accountable.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/census-changes-really-about-hiding-the-bleeding-gums-of-nzs-poverty-wounds/#comment-332678">Trevor</a>.</p>
<p>Where is your proof, you&#8217;ve offered an opinion. No facts provided by you Trev and &#8220;I know a few people&#8221; is fucking hilarious.<br />
Martyn is correct, this is about hiding data and without data this CoC can&#8217;t be held accountable.</p>
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		By: Joy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2025 01:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sounds like it will give govts, this sort in particular, the perfect way to hide statistics and then fail to plan for future needs. &#039;Oh, nobody told us we&#039;d need these new schools!!!! But it means we still have that money for our donor&#039;s requirements.&#039; 

Another excellent example of the Emperor&#039;s New Clothes which is their specialty, after all. They persist with not wanting to be told what is inconvenient and expensive to know and how stupid that always makes them look. As if it were possible for them to look any more stupid. 
Also, another example of NZ going backwards. 

Forget the people who refuse to fill out the forms, extrapolate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like it will give govts, this sort in particular, the perfect way to hide statistics and then fail to plan for future needs. &#8216;Oh, nobody told us we&#8217;d need these new schools!!!! But it means we still have that money for our donor&#8217;s requirements.&#8217; </p>
<p>Another excellent example of the Emperor&#8217;s New Clothes which is their specialty, after all. They persist with not wanting to be told what is inconvenient and expensive to know and how stupid that always makes them look. As if it were possible for them to look any more stupid.<br />
Also, another example of NZ going backwards. </p>
<p>Forget the people who refuse to fill out the forms, extrapolate.</p>
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		By: gordon walker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gordon walker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2025 18:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Take a close look at those poor countries you mention and you will see NZ in 20 years time .Note that in all of those countries the 1% control the money and live in gold plated homes while the rest live in mud huts or have no home at all .We have a growing number of grey nomads in NZ now as they are forced to sell the family home and buy a caravan and live on the road because it is too expensive to keep the family home .These nomads are also forced to compete for places to park up with the million tourists Luxon wants to flood the country with .My brother is a part time nomad and get pissed off when he has to stand in a line for 20 minutes ,with rude people rom the UK and USA just to get a coffee .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take a close look at those poor countries you mention and you will see NZ in 20 years time .Note that in all of those countries the 1% control the money and live in gold plated homes while the rest live in mud huts or have no home at all .We have a growing number of grey nomads in NZ now as they are forced to sell the family home and buy a caravan and live on the road because it is too expensive to keep the family home .These nomads are also forced to compete for places to park up with the million tourists Luxon wants to flood the country with .My brother is a part time nomad and get pissed off when he has to stand in a line for 20 minutes ,with rude people rom the UK and USA just to get a coffee .</p>
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		By: gordon walker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gordon walker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2025 17:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You only have to travel off the main tourist routes in NZ  to find the poverty you cant accept is rising in NZ.Take a drive around rural Northland or the king country and you will soon find it sitting right beside the the flash homes of the well off .Take a drive out of Te Kuiti along Rangitoto road and after a couple of km you will come across shanty canvas living arrangements amongst the gorse .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You only have to travel off the main tourist routes in NZ  to find the poverty you cant accept is rising in NZ.Take a drive around rural Northland or the king country and you will soon find it sitting right beside the the flash homes of the well off .Take a drive out of Te Kuiti along Rangitoto road and after a couple of km you will come across shanty canvas living arrangements amongst the gorse .</p>
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		By: Greywarbler		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/census-changes-really-about-hiding-the-bleeding-gums-of-nzs-poverty-wounds/#comment-332682</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greywarbler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2025 09:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO2506/S00098/modernising-new-zealands-data-system.htm
&lt;i&gt;“People’s information needs are changing and today’s announcements ensure we keep delivering data that improves lives today and for generations to come,” Acting Stats NZ Chief Executive and Government Statistician Mary Craig said....

“As New Zealand faces widespread and long-term social, economic, environmental, and technological change, people’s need for information is growing exponentially.
“These changes will help ensure Stats NZ continues to adapt and provide high-quality information that supports New Zealand’s economic and social wellbeing,” Craig said...

“From 2030, key New Zealand census data and statistics will be produced every year, in a cost-effective and sustainable way.
“By tapping into information New Zealanders have already provided, we will deliver more relevant, useful, and timely data to help inform quality planning and decision making.” 
Surveys will continue to play an important role, with a new annual survey asking census-type questions of a small percentage of the population....&lt;/i&gt;
 [Sounds like targeted spying - does Palantir or ? come into this.  The main census was supposed to be anonymous.   This is more like the cat sitting outside the mouse escape hole in wait.]

When are men going to start requesting equal employment opportunities at upper levels seeing this is the second female statistician?   Or is it a job with limited lustre?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO2506/S00098/modernising-new-zealands-data-system.htm" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO2506/S00098/modernising-new-zealands-data-system.htm</a><br />
<i>“People’s information needs are changing and today’s announcements ensure we keep delivering data that improves lives today and for generations to come,” Acting Stats NZ Chief Executive and Government Statistician Mary Craig said&#8230;.</p>
<p>“As New Zealand faces widespread and long-term social, economic, environmental, and technological change, people’s need for information is growing exponentially.<br />
“These changes will help ensure Stats NZ continues to adapt and provide high-quality information that supports New Zealand’s economic and social wellbeing,” Craig said&#8230;</p>
<p>“From 2030, key New Zealand census data and statistics will be produced every year, in a cost-effective and sustainable way.<br />
“By tapping into information New Zealanders have already provided, we will deliver more relevant, useful, and timely data to help inform quality planning and decision making.”<br />
Surveys will continue to play an important role, with a new annual survey asking census-type questions of a small percentage of the population&#8230;.</i><br />
 [Sounds like targeted spying &#8211; does Palantir or ? come into this.  The main census was supposed to be anonymous.   This is more like the cat sitting outside the mouse escape hole in wait.]</p>
<p>When are men going to start requesting equal employment opportunities at upper levels seeing this is the second female statistician?   Or is it a job with limited lustre?</p>
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		By: Greywarbler		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greywarbler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2025 09:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/census-changes-really-about-hiding-the-bleeding-gums-of-nzs-poverty-wounds/#comment-332671&quot;&gt;AB&lt;/a&gt;.

What&#039;s that saying It is very hard to get a change in opinion or decision from someone whose salary depends upon retaining that thing.&#039;    So set up a belief on something, with the stats to back it, and then pour concrete on the status quo..quo..quo....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/census-changes-really-about-hiding-the-bleeding-gums-of-nzs-poverty-wounds/#comment-332671">AB</a>.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s that saying It is very hard to get a change in opinion or decision from someone whose salary depends upon retaining that thing.&#8217;    So set up a belief on something, with the stats to back it, and then pour concrete on the status quo..quo..quo&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Greywarbler		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greywarbler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2025 09:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s what they said about the armament used on Trump.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s what they said about the armament used on Trump.</p>
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		By: Greywarbler		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/census-changes-really-about-hiding-the-bleeding-gums-of-nzs-poverty-wounds/#comment-332679</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greywarbler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2025 09:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bleeding gums - is that why Dr Shane Reti is on the job?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bleeding gums &#8211; is that why Dr Shane Reti is on the job?</p>
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		By: Trevor		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Trevor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2025 03:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/census-changes-really-about-hiding-the-bleeding-gums-of-nzs-poverty-wounds/#comment-332672&quot;&gt;National are Squeaky Clean&lt;/a&gt;.

Were is your prove please give examples of how good the present system  is .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/census-changes-really-about-hiding-the-bleeding-gums-of-nzs-poverty-wounds/#comment-332672">National are Squeaky Clean</a>.</p>
<p>Were is your prove please give examples of how good the present system  is .</p>
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		By: National are Squeaky Clean		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/census-changes-really-about-hiding-the-bleeding-gums-of-nzs-poverty-wounds/#comment-332677</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[National are Squeaky Clean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2025 03:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And governments have full control of how they release data, that is dangerous.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And governments have full control of how they release data, that is dangerous.</p>
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