Key has already admitted (after initially denying it) that the cost of medicines will rise. That may not matter to you, but it certainly does to those of us who are not well off. It will also enable major corporations (mostly American) to sue the NZ govt if they deem a NZ law interferes with their profit-making potential. For a country already over $100 billion in debt, and climbing by $27 million a day, this is hardly a positive prospect. There’s plenty more if you care to take your head out of the sand.

Because New Zealand will be competing against 2nd and third world wages.

And our companies will compete with the biggest companies in the world for contracts.

Just as we don’t let the All Blacks play with local club teams anymore. We shouldn’t let the American pharmacy lobby play against PHARMAC

Hi ELLE – the Sky City conference centre, across the road in Federal St is the signing venue as far as I know, not the actual Sky City casino building itself.

Any barricades erected by police around the area, will be like a red rag to a bull I’d say. That will be deliberately inviting trouble, which I’m sure is something FJK wants!

That’s because they are all ridiculous nutters and Left Wing Loonies.

Can anyone here provide me with a simple, succinct example of how their lives will suffer under the TPPA? Of how it is different from every other free trade agreement NZ has signed over the past 100 years? And that answers why even Labour is hopelessly split because it knows the TPPA will be immensely beneficial for the country but it can’t support it because it’s being signed by a National Government – despite the fact the party’s talisman, Helen Clark herself, is a strident supporter?

And please don’t give me any of that ‘sovereignty’ bullshit. That’s such a load of bull. Every time you sign anything you cede a little sovereignty – essentially any trade deal requires undertakings on both sides. Parliament will always be sovereign and can do what it likes – it always has and it always will.

Cant you guys keep it serious and upfront for a change??!! Show up in your decent threads and even suits then you will be making a statement.

But we can be angry. Chomsky said, when visiting NZ 20 years ago, that the people of Haiti rallied, railed and rioted against their version of Rogernomics. And NZ just let it happen.

Two metre high hurricane-fence crowd barriers had been engineered into the road surface prior to the event. Some protestors took that as an invitation to destroy the barriers.

Journalist Tom Scott walked up and down the conference side of the barrier imploring the crowd not vandalise the fences. He said it would play into Muldoon’s hands.

He was right.

Keep it cool.