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	Comments on: “Beyond Checklists: Why New Zealand’s $100M Maths Plan Misses the Mark”	</title>
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		By: joseph		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/beyond-checklists-why-new-zealands-100m-maths-plan-misses-the-mark/#comment-328765</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joseph]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2025 00:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/beyond-checklists-why-new-zealands-100m-maths-plan-misses-the-mark/#comment-328757&quot;&gt;gordon walker&lt;/a&gt;.

You could fix all that but if the kids aren&#039;t taught the math they are still undereducated.

When NZ was a poorer country kids were taught rote learned math&#039;s and school inspectors put the fear of God or discipline or being down the roading into teachers.

Apparently the standard of math&#039;s achievement has fallen since then.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/beyond-checklists-why-new-zealands-100m-maths-plan-misses-the-mark/#comment-328757">gordon walker</a>.</p>
<p>You could fix all that but if the kids aren&#8217;t taught the math they are still undereducated.</p>
<p>When NZ was a poorer country kids were taught rote learned math&#8217;s and school inspectors put the fear of God or discipline or being down the roading into teachers.</p>
<p>Apparently the standard of math&#8217;s achievement has fallen since then.</p>
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		By: Ennius		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ennius]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2025 19:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/beyond-checklists-why-new-zealands-100m-maths-plan-misses-the-mark/#comment-328757&quot;&gt;gordon walker&lt;/a&gt;.

Gordon you are right, but these issues are never going to be fixed. Probably best faced.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/beyond-checklists-why-new-zealands-100m-maths-plan-misses-the-mark/#comment-328757">gordon walker</a>.</p>
<p>Gordon you are right, but these issues are never going to be fixed. Probably best faced.</p>
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		By: Greywarbler		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/beyond-checklists-why-new-zealands-100m-maths-plan-misses-the-mark/#comment-328763</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greywarbler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2025 10:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Maths when we have AMI - education for people  lost between google and social media, TV and religion of prosperity churches; the old stalwart churches lost to monetarism and sexism also lost their ground-breaking Sunday schools.   We haven&#039;t carried forward their start to great things, only how to run an economic scam that dazzles people with the words freedom and market.  

People taking up trades using their education to learn a skill but not how to be an aware citizen in a democracy without royal input - as the people are fairer and better...pffffttt!   Just learn philosophy and music and leave the maths - beyond 10 is not necessary  for the ordinary poor post-neolib.  Note that net is ten turned round, turn it the other way and get more tens.  

Also learn to read and discuss what read, and write with a pencil a short summary and plan for the next day,   Think for yourself and find good teachers who can lead discussions and enlighten pupils.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maths when we have AMI &#8211; education for people  lost between google and social media, TV and religion of prosperity churches; the old stalwart churches lost to monetarism and sexism also lost their ground-breaking Sunday schools.   We haven&#8217;t carried forward their start to great things, only how to run an economic scam that dazzles people with the words freedom and market.  </p>
<p>People taking up trades using their education to learn a skill but not how to be an aware citizen in a democracy without royal input &#8211; as the people are fairer and better&#8230;pffffttt!   Just learn philosophy and music and leave the maths &#8211; beyond 10 is not necessary  for the ordinary poor post-neolib.  Note that net is ten turned round, turn it the other way and get more tens.  </p>
<p>Also learn to read and discuss what read, and write with a pencil a short summary and plan for the next day,   Think for yourself and find good teachers who can lead discussions and enlighten pupils.</p>
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		By: Greywarbler		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greywarbler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2025 06:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Who is that girl in the image?   She looks just out of uni - is she an intern?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who is that girl in the image?   She looks just out of uni &#8211; is she an intern?</p>
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		By: man with no name		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/beyond-checklists-why-new-zealands-100m-maths-plan-misses-the-mark/#comment-328761</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[man with no name]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2025 06:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/beyond-checklists-why-new-zealands-100m-maths-plan-misses-the-mark/#comment-328759&quot;&gt;Uncle Tom Cobbly&lt;/a&gt;.

if kids are healthy and educated, they have choices. addiction is the choice when you have no others. advocating scarcity is uncivilised navel gazing barbarity, it will just up the gain, the game and the harm. you need to pick out the lint and look at the evidence.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/beyond-checklists-why-new-zealands-100m-maths-plan-misses-the-mark/#comment-328759">Uncle Tom Cobbly</a>.</p>
<p>if kids are healthy and educated, they have choices. addiction is the choice when you have no others. advocating scarcity is uncivilised navel gazing barbarity, it will just up the gain, the game and the harm. you need to pick out the lint and look at the evidence.</p>
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		By: Bonnie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bonnie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2025 06:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/beyond-checklists-why-new-zealands-100m-maths-plan-misses-the-mark/#comment-328759&quot;&gt;Uncle Tom Cobbly&lt;/a&gt;.

You are a lot more optimistic than I am regarding the quality of our law enforcement services. I suspect that spending more on them will just increase the incentive for corruption. If GW&#039;s suggestions are followed I would expect some reduction in demand as people have a genuine purpose for life and can see their future continuing to get better.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/beyond-checklists-why-new-zealands-100m-maths-plan-misses-the-mark/#comment-328759">Uncle Tom Cobbly</a>.</p>
<p>You are a lot more optimistic than I am regarding the quality of our law enforcement services. I suspect that spending more on them will just increase the incentive for corruption. If GW&#8217;s suggestions are followed I would expect some reduction in demand as people have a genuine purpose for life and can see their future continuing to get better.</p>
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		By: Uncle Tom Cobbly		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/beyond-checklists-why-new-zealands-100m-maths-plan-misses-the-mark/#comment-328759</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Uncle Tom Cobbly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2025 22:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/beyond-checklists-why-new-zealands-100m-maths-plan-misses-the-mark/#comment-328757&quot;&gt;gordon walker&lt;/a&gt;.

Agree totally Gordon.
Likewise spend a few hundred million on Police and Border protection and the cost of our drug addiction costs will be reduced dramatically.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/beyond-checklists-why-new-zealands-100m-maths-plan-misses-the-mark/#comment-328757">gordon walker</a>.</p>
<p>Agree totally Gordon.<br />
Likewise spend a few hundred million on Police and Border protection and the cost of our drug addiction costs will be reduced dramatically.</p>
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		By: gordon walker		</title>
		<link>https://thedailyblog.co.nz/beyond-checklists-why-new-zealands-100m-maths-plan-misses-the-mark/#comment-328758</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gordon walker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2025 16:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is being funded by cutting school lunches which should be feeding the brains of these same kids that are hungry .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is being funded by cutting school lunches which should be feeding the brains of these same kids that are hungry .</p>
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		By: gordon walker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gordon walker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2025 16:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In a nut shell fix all of our poverty situations ,housing ,employment ,pay rates ,health care ,to name a few and kids will achieve in the class room of life .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a nut shell fix all of our poverty situations ,housing ,employment ,pay rates ,health care ,to name a few and kids will achieve in the class room of life .</p>
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