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		By: Merrial		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Merrial]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Feb 2014 09:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/alleviating-poverty-key-to-raising-student-achievement-2/#comment-2206&quot;&gt;cassie blake&lt;/a&gt;.

@Cassie Blake: &quot;HINT: “Tomorrows Schools” was a policy introduced a long time before anyone heard of “Neo Liberals”.&quot;

That&#039;s not so; Tomorrow&#039;s schools was a policy change introduced by the Lange government in 1988. In case you&#039;ve forgotten or didn&#039;t know, the Lange government introduced the unfortunate citizens of New Zealand to the dubious delights of the neoliberal project when it came to power in the snap election of 1984.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/alleviating-poverty-key-to-raising-student-achievement-2/#comment-2206">cassie blake</a>.</p>
<p>@Cassie Blake: &#8220;HINT: “Tomorrows Schools” was a policy introduced a long time before anyone heard of “Neo Liberals”.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not so; Tomorrow&#8217;s schools was a policy change introduced by the Lange government in 1988. In case you&#8217;ve forgotten or didn&#8217;t know, the Lange government introduced the unfortunate citizens of New Zealand to the dubious delights of the neoliberal project when it came to power in the snap election of 1984.</p>
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		By: cassie blake		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cassie blake]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jan 2014 14:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/alleviating-poverty-key-to-raising-student-achievement-2/#comment-2205&quot;&gt;cassie blake&lt;/a&gt;.

HINT: &quot;Tomorrows Schools&quot; was a policy introduced a long time before anyone heard of &quot;Neo Liberals&quot;.
But Neo Liberals are the ones changing life for the worse. They want future generations to grow up unable to question/ reason &#038; think for themselves so as to be perfect worker/drones. Hence &quot;Tomorrows Schools&quot; which is their ideology.&quot; 
 Neo Liberal &quot; represents the wealthy &#038; privileged . They push their (false ) ideology to promote their own interests. 
Actually Neo Liberals (misnomer) = the Ruling Class today. It is actually Authoritarian. It is oppression of the working class, by ensnaring them in more &#038; more rules/ statutes/ fines that makes life increasingly harder whilst they themselves are not affected..
Meanwhile, of course private schools still provide a better quality education= more choices in life and so the social inequality gap is maintained and further enhanced. This is NZ today.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/alleviating-poverty-key-to-raising-student-achievement-2/#comment-2205">cassie blake</a>.</p>
<p>HINT: &#8220;Tomorrows Schools&#8221; was a policy introduced a long time before anyone heard of &#8220;Neo Liberals&#8221;.<br />
But Neo Liberals are the ones changing life for the worse. They want future generations to grow up unable to question/ reason &amp; think for themselves so as to be perfect worker/drones. Hence &#8220;Tomorrows Schools&#8221; which is their ideology.&#8221;<br />
 Neo Liberal &#8221; represents the wealthy &amp; privileged . They push their (false ) ideology to promote their own interests.<br />
Actually Neo Liberals (misnomer) = the Ruling Class today. It is actually Authoritarian. It is oppression of the working class, by ensnaring them in more &amp; more rules/ statutes/ fines that makes life increasingly harder whilst they themselves are not affected..<br />
Meanwhile, of course private schools still provide a better quality education= more choices in life and so the social inequality gap is maintained and further enhanced. This is NZ today.</p>
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		By: cassie blake		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cassie blake]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jan 2014 13:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s the summary of when/how Schooling  went TOTALLY  wrong:
1) &quot;Tomorrow&#039;s Schools&quot; . A Policy (from WHERE? and From WHOM?)
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Suddenly a switch.
Suddenly a big part of the burden of teaching was thrust onto Parents.
  Suddenly parents had to spend lots of time to teach their kids to read, and learn basic maths.  Whereas before, that was the sole domain &#038; purpose of schooling.
***Suddenly Teachers were told to STOP marking &#038; correcting work.
Result=  loss of Standards.
 Kids left to flounder on their own. 

It makes perfect sense  that Poverty DIRECTLY affects learning outcomes, because 
Parents who are STRESSED
 with trying to survive financially, HOW can they possibly have the energy left to devote time to ALSO teaching tables &#038; reading to their kids?- that  which was once and should STILL be the domain of schools 

&quot;Tomorrows Schools&quot; FALSE IDEOLOGY  is SOLEY responsible for the drastic  decline in maths &#038; literacy standards witnessed today.

 
YES , because as well as abovementioned changes
  schools were also transformed into &quot;businesses&quot; , which meant that SUDDENLY tons of bureaucratic stuff/ paperwork to take up teachers time.

SUMMARY: &quot;Tomorrows Schools&quot; = a fraudulent DESTRUCTIVE policy &#038; TOTAL FAILURE. 
(John Key, who is a  a False Leader, of course wants to throw lots more money into it , to maintain the  illusion . John Key himself cares about Nothing except 1)His own financial status 2)His own kids who go to private boarding schools overseas.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the summary of when/how Schooling  went TOTALLY  wrong:<br />
1) &#8220;Tomorrow&#8217;s Schools&#8221; . A Policy (from WHERE? and From WHOM?)<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
Suddenly a switch.<br />
Suddenly a big part of the burden of teaching was thrust onto Parents.<br />
  Suddenly parents had to spend lots of time to teach their kids to read, and learn basic maths.  Whereas before, that was the sole domain &amp; purpose of schooling.<br />
***Suddenly Teachers were told to STOP marking &amp; correcting work.<br />
Result=  loss of Standards.<br />
 Kids left to flounder on their own. </p>
<p>It makes perfect sense  that Poverty DIRECTLY affects learning outcomes, because<br />
Parents who are STRESSED<br />
 with trying to survive financially, HOW can they possibly have the energy left to devote time to ALSO teaching tables &amp; reading to their kids?- that  which was once and should STILL be the domain of schools </p>
<p>&#8220;Tomorrows Schools&#8221; FALSE IDEOLOGY  is SOLEY responsible for the drastic  decline in maths &amp; literacy standards witnessed today.</p>
<p>YES , because as well as abovementioned changes<br />
  schools were also transformed into &#8220;businesses&#8221; , which meant that SUDDENLY tons of bureaucratic stuff/ paperwork to take up teachers time.</p>
<p>SUMMARY: &#8220;Tomorrows Schools&#8221; = a fraudulent DESTRUCTIVE policy &amp; TOTAL FAILURE.<br />
(John Key, who is a  a False Leader, of course wants to throw lots more money into it , to maintain the  illusion . John Key himself cares about Nothing except 1)His own financial status 2)His own kids who go to private boarding schools overseas.</p>
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		By: Frank Macskasy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank Macskasy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jan 2014 12:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/alleviating-poverty-key-to-raising-student-achievement-2/#comment-2200&quot;&gt;RandomTPerson&lt;/a&gt;.

Interesting how you equate poverty with lack of parental love?

I wonder how many millionaires who suddenly found themselves bankrupt in 1987, following the sharemarket crash, and living on the dole, lost their love for their children?

So obviously, the amount of love a person has for their off-spring is measureable, quantifiable, and has a per-cuddle dollar value?

If this sounds ludicrous to you, RandomTperson, there may still be a modicum of sanity left for you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/alleviating-poverty-key-to-raising-student-achievement-2/#comment-2200">RandomTPerson</a>.</p>
<p>Interesting how you equate poverty with lack of parental love?</p>
<p>I wonder how many millionaires who suddenly found themselves bankrupt in 1987, following the sharemarket crash, and living on the dole, lost their love for their children?</p>
<p>So obviously, the amount of love a person has for their off-spring is measureable, quantifiable, and has a per-cuddle dollar value?</p>
<p>If this sounds ludicrous to you, RandomTperson, there may still be a modicum of sanity left for you.</p>
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		By: millsy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[millsy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jan 2014 09:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thedailyblog.co.nz/alleviating-poverty-key-to-raising-student-achievement-2/#comment-2200&quot;&gt;RandomTPerson&lt;/a&gt;.

So how do you suppose people pay rent and buy food with &quot;love and support&quot;? 

I didnt know what &quot;love and support&quot; was a currency that is accepted by utility companies and the like?

Love and support is useless with out a stable place to live and food in your belly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thedailyblog.co.nz/alleviating-poverty-key-to-raising-student-achievement-2/#comment-2200">RandomTPerson</a>.</p>
<p>So how do you suppose people pay rent and buy food with &#8220;love and support&#8221;? </p>
<p>I didnt know what &#8220;love and support&#8221; was a currency that is accepted by utility companies and the like?</p>
<p>Love and support is useless with out a stable place to live and food in your belly.</p>
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		By: Plan B		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Plan B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jan 2014 02:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We can help pay for it all by,
1. Removing Charitable status from Private School Industry. 
2. Reduce payment per pupil to Private schools to the marginal cost- ie approaching zero of each additional pupil the state would have to pay for if they did not attend a private school. 

Private schools entrench privileges, separates us from each other. Why should we be paying for the private schools building programme and running costs. I say use this year- Charitable status is under review this year!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can help pay for it all by,<br />
1. Removing Charitable status from Private School Industry.<br />
2. Reduce payment per pupil to Private schools to the marginal cost- ie approaching zero of each additional pupil the state would have to pay for if they did not attend a private school. </p>
<p>Private schools entrench privileges, separates us from each other. Why should we be paying for the private schools building programme and running costs. I say use this year- Charitable status is under review this year!</p>
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		By: inanimouse		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[inanimouse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jan 2014 21:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve visited many schools and seen nothing but dedicated teachers giving it all for their pupils, this bollocks just sounds wrong on so many levels, if you bother to think about it.. (there lays the problem)
 All teachers I&#039;ve ever spoken too have stated that they need the support in the homes of the kids, not more hand holding from the state.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve visited many schools and seen nothing but dedicated teachers giving it all for their pupils, this bollocks just sounds wrong on so many levels, if you bother to think about it.. (there lays the problem)<br />
 All teachers I&#8217;ve ever spoken too have stated that they need the support in the homes of the kids, not more hand holding from the state.</p>
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		By: RandomTPerson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RandomTPerson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jan 2014 21:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[“a large proportion of children born into disadvantaged families and/or who experience protracted periods of childhood poverty who do not enjoy high levels of educational success”

A large proportion of children born into disadvantaged families also do not enjoy high levels of parental love and support. Parental love and support are far better determinants of good outcomes than money is.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“a large proportion of children born into disadvantaged families and/or who experience protracted periods of childhood poverty who do not enjoy high levels of educational success”</p>
<p>A large proportion of children born into disadvantaged families also do not enjoy high levels of parental love and support. Parental love and support are far better determinants of good outcomes than money is.</p>
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