MEDIAWATCH: Thomas Coughlan and Wayne Mapp sing Father and Son to warn the Left to stay economically meaningless

Wanting a fair deal for Kiwi workers isn’t radical, and isn’t the “vote loser” you paint it as.

The fear for the radical Right is if they *actually do* run on such policies, hence the need to (as you are attempting here) frame it as somehow negative.
As Capitalism dies it slow death, the inability of the business owners, landlords, banksters and their sycophants to even make the tiniest concessions only means the resulting guillotine blades get sharper and nearer.
Good luck with that.

Nationals problem is that by campaigning on what they really want to do is a vote loser, so they keep it under wraps and implement their actual policy when elected, as the voters would never have voted them in had they told them beforehand, ie, pay equity axing, severe cuts to health, underfunding infrastructure etc etc etc.
Voters won’t make the same mistake twice.

Your mates in the COC have now stolen the 3 waters policy and changed it so their mates can cash in on it .My local council (waitomo) is first cab off the rank in the set up of Waikato water limited .Note it is now a company and we all know companies can be sold .Also we (the rate payers ) have to stump ,up to $16 million to join the company .Where does 7500 rate payers find that cash .We are already paying over $1000 per year for a trickle feed waste water system and another $1200 for a leaking drinking water supply that cant supply enough water as soon as the first rays of sun begin in the spring .
You can keep on believing you defeated the last government on 3 waters but now you will see the real agenda behind the racist tirade of the COC before the election .THE PAKEHA HAVE STOLEN THE WATER FROM EVERY ONE IN NZ .Water will soon be owned off shore .Bring back the Maori .

Don’t think too big GWalk – promises yes but we have merely to turn the ship a fraction away from the maelstrom and we will have some safe time to think bigger ideas. I know that sort of reasoned achievable goal may not be appealing enough, but don’t over-promise. And don’t talk about draining swamps, that’s 20th century thinking. We now know that actual swamps serve a purpose, needed for our planet ecology.

It’s time for us to join the clever animal kingdom in our thinking; whales are coming to humans to get fishing nets untangled from their bodies, Jane Goodall helped an albino guerilla or chimpanzee, ostracised by the group, to make its evening leaf and branch nest. We need to think differently about each other too, and how we do things change dramatically beyond what is broadcast and absorbed at the best schools and military academies.

Just in case you missed this the other day: Labour needs to promote policies that will earn a significant party vote from the electorate as MMP in its current form is a failure as shown by the most ridiculous pretend three headed idiot coalition govt we have destroying the country at the moment. Unfortunately its back to no holds barred FPP politicking.

So Wayne what that means is MMP has to be modified to stop the tails wagging the dog and then Labour needs to modify the system around the failed mantra that govt should not be in the business of business and then roll back in all the govt depts that were unceremoniously dumped or sold off. This country is too small a population to have the private sector running critical infrastructure. International free markets have nothing to do with reinstating for example a working state run MoW.

Your mates in the COC have now stolen the 3 waters policy and changed it so their mates can cash in on it .My local council (waitomo) is first cab off the rank in the set up of Waikato water limited .Note it is now a company and we all know companies can be sold .Also we (the rate payers ) have to stump ,up to $16 million to join the company .Where does 7500 rate payers find that cash .We are already paying over $1000 per year for a trickle feed waste water system and another $1200 for a leaking drinking water supply that cant supply enough water as soon as the first rays of sun begin in the spring .
You can keep on believing you defeated the last government on 3 waters but now you will see the real agenda behind the racist tirade of the COC before the election .THE PAKEHA HAVE STOLEN THE WATER FROM EVERY ONE IN NZ .Water will soon be owned off shore .Bring back the Maori .

I get your point but you need to accept that the last 40 years have been a fail unless you are a member of the 1%.Even the (sorted ) PM is deluded if he thinks he is a member of the 1% $5 million is small change now days due to the rampant inflation over the last 40 years driven by trading ,wooden boxes at crazy prices, with one another and calling it an economy .
The fact we have poverty and homeless families should tell you that we have failed as a nation .
We need a complete reset to our thinking and bring all kiwis along for the ride not just the few .
If we look at the rise of the Maori economy you would see that if we had been working with Maori for the last two hundred years ,how much better NZ as a nation would be .Instead we still spend billions in time and lost opportunity trying to eliminate them and take what little they have left .

Yes you are just a farmer.
“ get out of that Tip or you’ll be cut. “

Great effort kwtc. I think you are probably right on to the matter. And Mr Wayne Mapp has built his whole life and standing on being the smart and wise guy who can handle any situation, quietly and confidently and all are safe to follow his advice. So calm and reasonable.

While you kwtc jump and foam – well good on you because you are still thinking all the time. But I hope you don’t rely on a trampoline which will have to be banned for private use as we are suffer very forceful winds that seem attempting to blow us away. And they can do harm to others around. We can still have little ones or even jump around on what ground that hasn’t washed away.

Down on the family farm, some solid thinking going on as Murray Ball showed the Dog thinking (in The Cry of the Grey Ghost). Dog, musing about his life and happiness – what he wanted and ultimately cared about –

I was born at Aunt Dolly’s cat’s home in Tauranga. (Note – now closed.)
I was fed on liver chunks and cream.
I slept in a warm basket in the linen cupboard
with her big Persian cat Ninky Pooh.
Then she put me in her knitting basket on the
back seat of her little primrose Toyota and
drove me to Footrot Flats.
Now I sleep in an old water tank, chew on
scrawny old ewe bones and spend my days
chasin’ sheep and drivin’ cattle…
That’s Progress!

(Solid thinking from a skilled, athletic farm worker – a stalwart that our farming industry is built on.)
An approach each one of us should be emulating, so as to avoid the magnetic pull exerted by rich incomers on those Kiwis who are made of true metal and alloys which are susceptible. This will be a chance to use some of those science-heavy school classes. More info for those who absorb such facts: https://sciencenotes.org/list-of-magnetic-metals/
(Note: This comment has been approved as having an acceptable mix of factual content (with source) and philosophy with left-leaning, personal opinion unable to be checked – be aware!)/sarc

no need to borrow from kiwi bank because we as a country can issue as much money as we need to build homes roads hospitals schools as we did back in the 1950s and earlier .We dont need to borrow a single cent as a country .

OMG ram raids squeaky, never heard of that ever before, must ba Nationals fault lol
Dairy and petrol station, yes must be starving thieves looking to steal food for the kids back home.
Ohhhh but wait…wait, let’s see what was stolen, my guess is cigarettes as that will prove it’s the price of food that was the cause lol

So your objecting to the helipad approval, what were the actual objections, what were the IWI/environmental/land use objections?
Were they, as I suspect, just envious poor people hoping to get one over on the rich people…with nothing concrete in their objections except ‘feelz’?
Welcome to the real world Patrize, where things don’t always go your way and luckily enough for all of NZ, ‘feelz’ doesn’t make a legal argument.

It’s a large set of magical beliefs held by the cult members.

Astounding what many who comment on the TDB, believe to be not true.

Yes you have astounded us for all the crap comments you spout

Yes you always astound me Bob1st and that you don’t bug off and do something useful to the world and still your deadly line crops up.
‘So I called up the Captain, “Please bring me my wine”
He said, “We haven’t had that spirit here since 1969”
And still, those voices are calling from far away
Wake you up in the middle of the night just to hear them say’
Natactack are allright, though all bent and twisted.

So does dumping sewage straight into the ocean

Save us money and time and people’s lives when this CoC is voted out next year.

I’m with Joy on this.

the closet red necks wont vote labour if Willie is the leader sadly .

This from someone who has their head right up their arse

That’s a high bar to reach, but I think they make it.