The Palestine Solidarity Network Aotearoa has this morning written to the Foreign Minister Winston Peters requesting New Zealand initiate the call for an internationally enforced “no-fly” zone over Gaza.
PSNA Co-Chair John Minto says this would be a small but practicable step to blunt Israel’s continuing genocidal attacks on Palestinians.
“Gaza is recognised under international law, and by the New Zealand government, as part of the illegally Occupied Palestinian Territory. As such, Israel’s intrusion into Gaza airspace is illegal, and is elevated to a war crime when its aircraft attack Palestinian civilians there to further what the International Court of Justice has described as a “plausible genocide”.
John Minto says the United Nations has repeatedly said there are no safe places in Gaza for Palestinian civilians, where even so-called “safe zones” are systematically attacked as Israel terrorises the population to flee from the territory.
“Suggestions for a no-fly zone have been made in the past but there has never been a better time for a concerted international effort to enforce such a zone over Gaza”.
“In the week leading up to Anzac Day there is no better time for New Zealand to stand up and be counted.
“New Zealanders from past conflicts, including in that very region in 1917 and 1918, have died in vain if today’s politicians refuse to speak out to end the death and destruction in Gaza.”
Israel is fully entitled under International Law to attack legitimate military targets, viz. the vicious amoral Hamas terrorists who started the war and embed amongst civilians. What kind of deluded fantasist imagines the IAF are daunted by a puny antisemitic organisation in remote NZ?
To be “Entitled” under international law first you have to be a legal state with defined borders which Israel does not, off course according to gaby terrorism started on October 7th ignoring history. The world’s first car bomb? Israel. ” Embed amongst civilians” that’s a bloody joke as the IDF headquarters are located in a civilian area.
And the world is fully entitled to set up a Nuremburg tribunal to try Israeli war criminals
New Revelations Regarding the Paramedic Massacre in Rafah
One month ago, on 23 March, I̵s̵r̵a̵e̵l̵ occupation forces executed 15 Palestinian aid workers—among them Red Cresent paramedics, rescue teams, and UN staff. In the same operation, troops killed at least 10 civilians, including five children and a woman. However, evidence suggest that the actual number from that day is significantly higher
Yesterday, the PAL Commission on War Crimes, Justice, Reparations, and Return [The Commission] Legal Director and Chief Counsel- alongside Criminal Defense Attorney Maira Pinheiro, Investigative Journalist Younis Tirawi formally submitted the first fully exhaustive legal dossier detailing its findings on the Tel Sultan Massacre to both the Palestinian Red Crescent and the UN Office in the Occupied Palestinian Territories and the ICJ South African Legal Team.
The dossier titled “You identify anyone, you eliminate him” consisting of hundreds of pages forensically documents the Tel Sultan Massacre in unprecedented detail, identifies the commanders and officers directly responsible—circumventing IOF efforts to conceal their identities, establishes the legal foundation for prosecution—and reveals a coordinated operation involving multiple battalions, multiple commanders, and a sequence of orders delivered through a chain of command that has been painstakingly reconstructed and verified.
It identifies by name key military figures who gave direct orders, fired upon aid workers, buried bodies to conceal war crimes, and terrorized civilians with coercive threats and psychological warfare.
The Commission will announce specific legal actions in the coming period.
This submission marks the first phase in the campaign to secure justice for the victims and ensure accountability for the perpetrators. See less
Pat O’Dea – and the War Crimes Tribunal need to investigate the 7th Oct massacre right Pat?
Of course Nathan we have repeatedly said that every single person who has committed a war crime should be on trial. I am sure you have been told this before. Look at Palestine Solidarity’s website if it is possible before writing this stuff.
Michal – I did look at the website, and warped history came to mind…
Nathan, did you do a wee boy look, because you don’t seem to have seen where we have said all those who have committed war crimes should stand trial. Why don’t you respond to that, you like shifting the discussion, it is like ‘if I don’t like the answer, I’ll move it somewhere else’.
So if on our website we have ‘warped’ history does that mean the great Ilane Pappe has made things up. I have never seen any litigation on anything he has writen. So do tell me have you started reading some of the books listed below, you clearly have lots of work to do before you understand what the Israeli government always uses as an excuse ‘its complicated’ – IT IS NOT!
A very short history of the Israel Palestine Conflict – Ilane Pappe (Jewish)
Lobbying for Zionism on both sides of the Atlantic, Ilane Pappe (Jewish)
The ethnic cleansing of Palestine – Ilane Pappe (Jewish)
The forgotten Palestinians – A history of the Palestinians in Israel – Ilane Pappe (Jewish)
The biggest prison on earth – Ilane Pappe (Jewish)
On Palestine – Noam Chomsky (Jewish)
The Invention of the land of Israel – Shlomo Sand (Jewish)
My Israel Question – Antony Lowenstein (Jewish)
The Palestine Laboratory – Antony Loewenstein (Jewish)
Israel a Beachhead in the middle east – Stephen Gowans
The Last Earth – Ramzy Baroud (Palestinian)
The making of Hamas’s foreign policy – Daud Abdullah (former Deputy Secretary General of the Muslim Council of Britain)
The Great War for Civilisation – Robert Fisk (deceased, middle East journalist)
The Question of Palestine – Edward Said (Palestinian)
Palestine a four thousand year history – Nurma Masalha (Palestinian)
Freedom Next Time – Resisting the empire – John Pilger (deceased, journalist, written many books and docos).
Lobbying for Zionism on both sides of the Atlantic, Ilane Pappe (Jewish)
John – and in return for this “no- fly zone”, Hamas promises to do what…?
” John – and in return for this “no- fly zone”, Hamas promises to do what…? ”
To stand by the negotiations regarding the ceasefire it had originally entered into in good faith.
Pity the Zionists couldn’t keep their promises and went ahead bombing , torturing , killing paramedics and taking the lives of thousands of men , women and children with impunity that they planned to do even when they agreed to the ceasefire.
Stand strong and fight – Are you sure Hamas would stand by those negotiations? I do not believe they would…
“Are you sure Hamas would stand by those negotiations? I do not believe they would…
There was huge pressure on Hamas to agree on a ceasefire and provide evidence they were complying by releasing a number of hostages which they did. To an observer that sends the message that they were acting in good faith and in accordance with the deal they reached which took no little effort to put together.
The Israelis had violated the ceasefire within days and began killing and bombing Palestinian civilians in violation of the ceasefire agreement.
Do I believe the Israeli government and the IDF violated the ceasefire ?
Damn right I do.
” In retrospect, Israel may have never intended to leave Gaza or stop the war.
When both sides agreed to a ceasefire, Israel refused to state in writing that it would not resume hostilities after the first phase.
Hamas still agreed to the terms after receiving verbal guarantees from mediators – Egypt, Qatar and the US – that Israel would not restart its genocidal war against Palestinians. ”
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/2/11/did-israel-violate-the-gaza-ceasefire-what-to-know-about-hamass-pause
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/3/18/why-did-israel-break-the-ceasefire-in-gaza
Stand strong and fight – I hope you are right about Hamas supporting Peace.
” John – and in return for this “no- fly zone”, Hamas promises to do what…? ”
To stand by the negotiations regarding the ceasefire it had originally entered into in good faith.
Pity the Zionists couldn’t keep their promises and went ahead bombing , torturing , killing paramedics and taking the lives of thousands of men , women and children with impunity that they planned to do even when they agreed to the ceasefire and some of the captives were freed.
Stand strong and fight – Zionists is a person who supports the State of Israel, while Zionism supports the right for the State of Israel to occur…
What is wrong with that?
How you can make comments like this, and yet apparently support Russia’s actions is beyond me
observer – It is simple…the Ukraine Government had attacked Ukrainians, who were Russians, living in the Donbass for 7 years before the war, and despite numerous requests/agreements to stop…they, the Ukraine Government, did not…Russia stepped in.
I hope this helps.
Oh gosh thanks for that, it completely clears it up.
Thankfully Russia was there to rescue Crimea as well.
observer – Ukraine did not fire a shot to defend Crimea – why? because the people of Crimea wanted out of Ukraine, and Ukraine was trying to lease out port facilities to NATO members in Crimea…
People in Crimea have far better living standards than in Ukraine…thanks to Russia.
Nathan you really are talking a load of old bollocks. Don’t forget the bit about Zionists stealing land off the rightful owners, and generally being complete arseholes. They are feral bastards to a man who, historically, have been quite happy to shaft other Jews to suit their needs.
” Israel is fully entitled under International Law to attack legitimate military targets ”
Aw come on. Since when have the Zionists ever adhered to international law ! They follow the laws that suit them and their long term aim to annihilate the Palestinian people just as Hitler and the Nazis set out to do from 1935 and invade sovereign states and massacre anyone they deemed unacceptable.
Legitimate military targets is code for killing and wiping out as many Palestinian’s as is possible. And securing as much territory as you can steal from the people of Palestine who are being slaughtered in the West Bank and being driven from their land.
” What kind of deluded fantasist imagines the IAF are daunted by a puny antisemitic organization in remote NZ? ”
There are millions of deluded fantasists to use your description in every country in the world that will never forget what Israel has done here. As for New Zealand it certainly is remote but has stood up to aggression and Fascism like the Nazi’s and their butchery of not just the Jewish people but many others in Europe. My grandfather was one of the many Kiwis who fought the German war machine in order to preserve freedom and future generations including my Jewish grandmother.
There is nothing legitimate about Netanyahu and the Israelis / American government that support state sanctioned murder and the destruction of a sovereign state.
‘Israel is fully entitled under International Law to attack legitimate military targets, viz. the vicious amoral Hamas terrorists who started the war and embed amongst civilians. ‘
Damned right! Gaby! There are, after all, those examples from the past.
The Great German Reich needed to liberate their people in the Sudetenland from the constant harassment of Czech terrorists. Those poor German settlers in Bohemia were surrounded by hostile populations of inferior races who insisted they ‘ go back to your own country’.
In the end it was necessary for German forces to make armed interventions and then, as now, other countries stood aside and allowed ‘ might is right’ to triumph because they believed the nazis were a stabilising force against communist terrorism.
In Poland too the German people were outraged by the sufferings of German settlers in that country and the border incursions that killed German citizens.
(Later discovered to be nazi propaganda but by then Poland was carved up and millions killed).
Strange too that the Nazis never succeeded in being loved by the people they oppressed. But Gaby is doubtless right and Israel knows what it is doing. Keep killing Palestinians of all ages (because those bombs and shells know who is Hamas and who is not) and the problem will go away.
Some really mean people have suggested to me that Gaby is a nazi and I have told them that is ridiculous.
She is a Zionist and they wear Star of David instead of swastikas.
The only part of that rant that was truthful:
“But Gaby is doubtless right and Israel knows what it is doing”
You just described Russian and Ukraine.
the screaming head is sadly still screaming… is minto the biggest twat in nz or what
How could that be possible while you are here.
John, the reason why your campaign hasn’t got traction, and is fizzing out, is because the Palestinians are holding hostages. The glory days of taking and ransoming hostages was back in the 60s. Until they release the hostages, and by extension, put the hostage taking days behind them, they will feel the pain and suffer the consequences.
How would you know whether our campaign has got traction or not, come on answer that one, the money flows in all the time and the database rises on a daily basis.
Ever actually taken the time to do anything for humanity/
organised a rally
signed a petition
taken a petition around the motu?
Do tell.
‘the screaming head is sadly still screaming… is minto the biggest twat in nz or what'(?) (For Christ’s sake use punctuation.)
Trumpet, the answer to that is found when you look into the mirror.
And the Germans killed the Jews, and the Jews killed the Arabs and the Arabs killed the hostages and that is the news. Perfect sense by Roger waters released in the year 2000 who is accused of “Antisemitism”
The IDF is not “the most moral army in the world “ as is sometimes claimed. That title belongs to Cuba’s FAR, which under the command of Fidel Castro in Cuba’s Revolutionary War purposely set an example by never involving civilians, never taking hostages, and treating captured prisoners humanely. That units of the IDF have in the fog of war committed acts such as that of March 23 that can be defined as war crimes is undeniable. But that doesn’t change the fact that Israel is fighting a war of self defence against an enemy intent on destroying it.
The most encouraging development of recent weeks, ignored by Hamas apologists here and internationally, is the growing number of protests against Hamas by ordinary Palestinians in Gaza.
Terry Coggan – I wonder what the Cubans, and Angolans who were the victims of Cuba FAR feel about your statement…?
Nathan, I don’t know what is the source of information that allows you to make this insinuation about Cuba’s record in Angola – perhaps the fraudulent attempts by the current regime in Angola to re-write the recent history of their country. I suggest you make an effort to acquaint yourself with the facts. A good place to start would be with the two volumes by U.S. historian Piero Gleijeses – Conflicting Missions: Havana, Washington, and Africa, 1959-1976; and Visions of Freedom: Havana, Washington, Pretoria and the Struggle for Southern Africa 1976-1991.
In fact Cuba’s internationalist missions in Angola are one of the finest moments in the history of the Revolution. Over 400,000 Cuban volunteers served there between 1975 and 1991. Unlike imperialist armies that preyed on the continent of Africa for centuries, the Cubans proudly stated that they brought nothing back but the bodies of their fallen comrades.
The Cuban fighters helped turn back repeated invasions by the armed forces of the Apartheid regime in South Africa. Nelson Mandela said that Cuba’s victory over the South African army at Cuito Cuanavale in 1988 was “a turning point in the struggle to free our continent and our country from the scourge of Apartheid.” He added that the Cuban volunteers’ contribution was “unparalleled for its principle and selfless character.”
Terry Coggan – So why does the Cuban Government refuse to provide certain information on Cuba’s FAR campaign in Angola, such as how many were killed?
The IDF commander directly responsible for the cold-blooded massacre of paramedics in Rafah has been identified, as ,
Let’s make this mass murderer famous.
Noted.
Israel is a coiled knot of muscle now. If it disappeared overnight no non-Zionist would shed a tear. We’d rejoice.
Israel is just a coiled knot of muscle now. If it disappeared overnight no non-Zionist would shed a tear. We’d rejoice.
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