I fear the Left in NZ is going to make the same mistake the Democrats made against Trump.
It’s the Rights’ poisonous anti-treaty agenda, naked policy for donors on a burning planet and contempt for public services Voters care about, not Polky support letters, Landrovers up stairs or other Outrage Olympics.
Voters are holding on by their fingernails and want to know what we as the Left are offering them.
The Polls clearly show Kiwis are turning away from the extremism of this Government and the pointless friction being generated by bullshit while public services collapse and unemployment climbs.
We on the Left have to focus on things that matter.
That is not happening.
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Fucking right!!
Yes agree the left are not offering anything, which I believe is because they don’t have anything.
The left are offering ice creams the right are offering ice blocks
Yeah, probably more sensible to call Seymour out because all his associates are nonces.
Hipkins looked like a schoolboy telling tails about a naughty class mate who he wanted to get one over on and score some bronie points .
I see that you’ve got your wording a bit wrong….
I think what you wanted to say, is that, Hipkins has been making Luxon look like a schoolboy in the house…. every.. fucking…day.
Correct Grant and the protection afforded by Brownlee is embarrassing.
As Hipkins admitted, everyone of those naughty Labour MP’s Luxon used as a defense were sacked because Labour have ethics and strong leadership. Yet Luxon’s hypocrisy in his weak leadership was laid bare by Hipkins. Not sure Hipkins is still the right leader for Labour but he made Luxon look like a novice.
Trevor’s inability to look through both eye’s will continue his blind faith in the worst government in our history.
That’s correct Squeaky. Poor Trevor feels he has to comment on everything which highlights his lack of local knowledge and history.
Labour needs to get talking with the Greens and TPM, consolidate good policy and start advertising it. I too, think they could have a leadership change to someone with proven debating skills. Hipkins has heaps of experience but is it that he wants a bob each way and won’t commit to one policy line? His stance needs to be clear.
The only one on learner plates is Luxon and I don’t think he’ll ever pass his test.
Three things win elections ….
1) Having truck loads of money so that you can flood spread propaganda, based on lies and deceit, so far and so wide, that the majority believe it and vote accordingly.
2) Form great doable possible policy that is presented with such clarity and empathy that the majority can’t help but vote for it.
3) Events
So far the Coalitition of Absolute Chaos are ticking, and locked into, boxes 1and 3…leaving box 2 wide open for Labour, The Greens, and TPM, to fill…
…Time to put aside any egos and one upmanship if any, form a united front, and get the job done, because this current clusterfuck of a government is absolutely terrible for New Zealand….They are nothing more than childish rank amateurs and wrecking every aspect of what was once a great country…ugh!!
The adults need to get back in the room …
This next election is one of the most important for a very very very long time. Returning this lot to power will push N.Z into an irretrievable nose dive tailspin with catastrophic consequences . …in fact, we are all but there now!…it’s very depressing.
The previous administration had an outright majority and every chance to execute your option 2. What did they achieve? Think housing, forestry, Dunedin hospital etc. Instead of *doing* what I had voted for they decided to introduce their hidden agenda and borrow billions, for which their has been very little public accounting.
Think Covid and the flow on effects…. Think 8 x 1 in100 year natural disasters all in the space of 5 years..
Hidden billions ??? …this is urban myth stuff…..please refer back to option 1….Treasury never reported any billions spent on hidden agendas.
What they did forecast, was Labour having the country back to surplus by mid- 2027 ….as opposed to National losing billions of dollars on a poor spiteful Interislander ferries decision and having billions disappear into the ether by borrowing 14 billion dollars to give tax cuts…predominantly going to the wealthier end of town…spent on The Gold Coast or in Fiji no doubt.
Then giving millions of dollars of taxpayer money to tobacco companies …you know those companies that make cancer causing products that, in turn, cause the clogging up of our already over crowded hospitals…
.and to top it off…
… donating taxpayer’s money, to the tune of 2.9 billion dollars, to those poor hard done by landlords, who have just made extraordinarily high percentage tax free capital gains by leveraging one property against the next.
The comparisons are stark already…and the National/ Act/ N.Z.First coalition are , after just 15 months, in big trouble already, and have not even been tested yet…
No worldwide killer pandemic, or even just one, 1 in 100 year catastrophic natural disaster to deal with….so factor a few of those in as well and then let’s see how they stack up!!
The left should be demanding an emergency aid package after the Salvation army report.
If we care about hungry children here’s what could be done overnight
1. Give the full WFF package to all low income children (another $100 + a week to all families on benefits)
2. Raise the threshold for abatement of WFF from $42,700 to $62700 giving low income working families a $100 a week boost
3. re-instate the former school lunch programme and extend it
\4 Allow access to benefits by partners when unemployed in two low-income earner households
Please don’t forget about us, Susan.
Your sugestions seem to be vastly overerlooking those that are single, don’t have dependtent children, yet are also struggling to survive.
This is where seymour and his foul lot are dragging us down to.
Wikipedia.
“Trump described his attempt to seduce a married woman and indicated he might start kissing a woman that he and Bush were about to meet. He added, “I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. … Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_Access_Hollywood_tape
Going by what I know and I think I know fuck all but I’m getting there.
My point is; 1000 millions of the dollars is a lot of money. That’s one billion of the dollars.
In AO/NZ there are a reported ( tdb ) 14 people with multiples of the 1000’s of millions.
That’s 14 people in AO/NZ who have more than one billion of the dollars.
You know what that means, right? Yes. That’s right. They, own us. Those 14 people with the multiples of the 1000’s of millions AKA billions own us. We have no realm of resistance against whatever they want to do to us. We’re effectively their pussies and they can grab us anytime and anywhere they like. The destruction of the health, housing, transport, roading, rail etc assets that’s happening right in front of us and as I write is a battle tactic to disempower us. Although they have the multiples of the 1000’s of millions they’re not yet fully confident that they have us disempowered. They don’t yet have us cowering before then like some dominated and powerless woman who was lured into a lair by a psychopath.
When Sean Plunket is making it clear he does not respect Luxon and Cameron Slater is asking very hard questions of him, why are the media obsessed with a letter from an MP who was not a minister at the time and a land rover. Martyn is right. Hint for lefties – check how discontented righties are with Luxon and make some hay.
https://theplatform.kiwi/podcasts/episode/sean-plunket-we-have-a-problem-with-our-prime-minister
C’mon, all most care about is the hip pocket silly. Yep cash makes the world go round & keeps the wolf form the cave door.
Most definitely don’t really care about stuff like below;
Most nations naturally evolve in fits & starts over time. Unfortunately NZ has been stuck in a rut for far too long. Why?
A couple of reasons; we’ve always been at the mercy of foreign interests, cash, ideas & schemes. Our crazy enthusiasm for globalisation & its many perils accelerated this process & our enslavement.
Another reason is our inability to face up to & resolve the issues around the ‘treaty’, its many conflicting interpretations & the role it should play in our constitution & parliamentary democracy.
Most countries have a fluid unwritten (like ours) or a written (like the USA) founding constitutional document, which galvanizes the nation & its people. We don’t, our supposed founding document only seems good for creating nothing but strife.
Until NZ finds something symbolic & unifying that will bring us all together, something unique which we can shout about in the streets, rally around, be really proud of, our evolution to mature nationhood will continue to be stuck in the mud.
” Most countries have an fluid unwritten (like ours) or a written (like the USA) founding document, which galvanizes the nation & its people. We don’t, our supposed founding document seems to create nothing but strife. ”
What Rubbish !
NZ does have a written constitutional document and it is enshrined in law.
NZ Bill of Rights Act . All laws are then contested against the NZ BORA.
Has “The Constitution of the United States” since the 1700s brought it to ” mature nationhood” ?
You say Rubbish; you obviously have no frigin idea you ignorant twat;
“Because New Zealand’s constitution is not all set out in one document, and much of it is found in practices and the common law, it’s known as an unwritten constitution”
Bye the way, I love some of your films, Lawrence of Arabia was my favourite.
Well well rules for fools. Anything goes. Lies Lies filthy lies. Free speech and all that.What a woke security guard . What an arrogant prick ( she was so right). Our minister of health and safety standing by laughing.
Governments get voted out not voted in? In the West, the normal lifespan of a government is about ten years, give or take a bit for term lengths. It takes a bit of effort to leave the party early.
That’d be great if we voted a government in but this ‘thing’ that we have is no governance. It’s merely a gaggle of rich narcissists feasting off the withered old public tit. Governments in a democratic environment are voted in by we the people because we, the people, need to trust, then flourish off, well intended people in highly responsible positions where by they must do their best to honour our trust. These cunts simply don’t care about we, the people. Their only concern is to do their best by their lobbyist mafia aka graeme hart et al. When bandy wee Gazza says jump! Our politicians all beg ” But how far shall we jump Oh Mighty Gaz?”
Meanwhile we see shit like 400,000 people scratching around for jobs that don’t exist while the psychopaths paradise aka WINZ says ” No. ( Cough.) Next? ” That’s not governance by accident or mistake therefore lets wait and vote them out. That, is narcissistic sociopathy at its most virulent and we must urgently get rid of these dodgy, lazy, self-serving fuckers and today would be too late but better than nothing.
Yup, they should be talking about how he handled the pedophile head of his political organization – it seems Seymour is more interested in us talking about his ‘dead cat’ instead.
Martyn – Having Guy “Un-funny” Williams fronting a campaign is never a good look.
Martyn – Having Guy “Un-funny” Williams fronting a campaign is never a good look.
Luxon’s ineptitude is probably the worst thing for Labour right now. Hipkins is realising that they can basically sit back and offer nothing but let the CoC implode and Labour will get re-elected – without offering anything substantial except more of their incremental tinkering around the margins. GST off fruit and vege, anyone?
@ Steve King.
The accuracy of what I’m about to write will stand the test of time.
*Labor, the natzo’s, Machiavellian confederate nz first, the intestinal parasite that’s roger douglas’s blood boy being weird, lizard lipped sleazemore’s ACT are all the same thing. They’re all unrepentant thus unapologetic neoliberals. Or polite, pink-tie fascists if you prefer.
They’re the disease that gathers around an open wound. The wound, a metaphorical word in this case, is free farmer earned money bleeding out into urban pockets well before it gets all the way back home to that dear old country gate. Aye boys? Look at our agricultural primary industry? It’s suffering from dire financial anaemia. The gubbimint infrastructure is specifically written a script to disempower farmers under the guidance of lobbyists. Local councils everywhere are hammering our farmers into those same paddocks they plow to produce the foods you gorge down while central government rains havoc down on our traditional trading partners thus forcing our farmer’s bent promotors to source our revenue from the merciless Chinese on their own sub-planet to suit their own particular convoluted corruption’s and greed. And now, China is all we’ve got when once we had Europe cradling us to ensure we keep supplying them with their winter provisions. The wonderful The Daily Blog hasn’t so much as scratched the surface of the chaotic corruptions that still bedevil our beautiful AO/NZ but TDB is still light years ahead of the rest.
*Labor.
The bastardised U$A spelling of Labour which I think is more fitting here. What with Big Orange Don and the Muskrat slithering around in the Oval Orifice all touchy-feelie and self congratulatory. Uuuuugh…!
AO/NZ could be beyond wonderful if we could just get in the cleaners.
Agree, thank you. Countryboy may be history, but it’s good to see the cb train carrying on in your contributions.
Hipkins had better not be thinking that. His will be a one term govt. too if he fails to give people something to vote FOR.
Labour left a lot undone and shied away from certain decisions. That’s what Hipkins, all of them, need to be thinking about and talking to their possible partners about. The electorate will not be convinced again with an earnest expression and sausage rolls.
There have to be clear and significant plans for change.
Dumping the neoliberal ideas of the 80s would be a start.
Health and the overall cost of living are the two largest conerns in my circles.
Crime is also up there.
Addressing the first two tends to improve the latter.
Hipkins will run into the same brutal question that every other Labour leader has faced: ‘show us the money’.
So then the debate is what taxes will go up to pay for the extra spending (cough, investment), and then the Labour campaign falls over trying to explain the tax’s details, and how THIS time it won’t be wasted.
Well Ada tax cuts for the greedy haven’t worked have they.Willis had her tax package on a 1 sided piece of A4 paper didn’t do her any harm did it,never mind the borrowing of the 14billion for tax cuts,
Yes, why are the opposition asking do many questions about all these things that just keep all the wrong people in the news.
Vote Left for more state spending, more tax and more regulation of your life. Not a winning argument.