Does Evangelical Christian Chris Luxon believe in science?

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Prime Minister’s chief science adviser: Uncertainty looms over future of NZ’s influential chief scientist role

  • The Government is under pressure to say whether it’s keeping the influential role of Prime Minister’s chief science adviser, which has sat unfilled since July.
  • It’s emerged a preferred candidate was to have taken up the post, before being stood down amid a Government-ordered review of the science system.
  • The Green Party and the NZ Association of Scientists says it’s “concerning” and “scary” that the role still remains vacant.

On the election campaign, Guy Williams had heard a rumour that Evangelical Christian Chris Luxon didn’t believe in dinosaurs and so kept asking him on the campaign trail if he did.

It was funny.

We’ve seen how Luxon’s Prosperity Theology makes him believe that owning 7 properties is proof positive of how special he is to Jesus and how he needs to boast about these privileges because to hide them would be ashamed of God.

This has manifested in him taking entitlements and pushing back against not receiving them alongside his “I’m rich and I’m sorted” hubris.

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To Chris, these are blessings from God and to be humble is to belittle God.

So the lack of appointing a Scientist is understandable because no one has authority over Chris other than Jesus.

We may as well start burning the libraries.

This is what we is now. This is who we have mutated into.

 

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39 COMMENTS

  1. Yip….and when people are getting their information on a daily basis from the likes of the moronic Mike Hosking and others, who strangely enough work for either, 1ZB , the self titled ‘Taxpayer’s Union’, The Atlas Group, it only serves to reinforce the stupidity that now pervades N.Z society.

    When you look at the likes and belief systems of people like Clusterfuxon, Willis , Seymour, Brooke Van Velden, Peters and Jones, it’s not hard to see that N.Z has fallen and snared itself in a crown of thorns from which the extraction will be very painful,

    These people have already graphically demonstrated, in the space of just 12months, that they are not the sharpest knives in the draw….but then again …we already knew that. To come to any other conclusion is straight out delusional.

    Their ‘group thinking’ , ego maniac naivety is there for all to see… all day… every day. There is little to no science in anything they do. It’s all about their ‘reckons’ and feels…. and financial backers.

    How ironic that the farmers, one of their biggest bunch of cheerleaders, will be the most impacted by their climate denying stupidity …and will pay dearly. A graphic example of self-mutilation if ever there was one…
    cutting of the nose to spite one’s face.

    Humans have done it since the dawn of civilization…here we go again…learnt nothing!

    N.Z. should be deeply concerned. The Coalition of Chaos is not the government of and for the people, but just a bunch of weird zealots for the deluded deniers…Amen

    • Yeah-yeah. What ever…
      But…
      Be honest. Can you do it off the top of your head? How about the Minister of Trade?
      Three primary and essential portfolios to hold for the financial and societal survival of our AO/NZ and all of them enduringly missing from any public debate whether here, or elsewhere in the msm or least the msm that’s left after the natzo mafia had their way with it.
      Can you name the ministers? Because, as someone who thinks they’re kind of on to it in an albeit abstract and adversarial manner and as a farmer I couldn’t do it. That, is alarming to me.
      The reason for that level of ignorance, in me certainly, is because I suddenly became aware of the fact that so little is heard FROM the msm re the relevant ministries on the subject our our primary industry and I’m not writing about cowsploitation but more specifically about our primary agricultural industries also known as farming over all. Why is that? What the fuck is going on? Something’s up. Not the usual garbage of what’s where and who’s what but something much bigger.
      If I add that realisation to the carnage the natzo’s have caused in their first 100 days I get a sinking feeling that something fucking scary and dangerous is on its way here.
      Idiotic luxon was quoted as saying ” I fake it until I make it. ” That means he lies but if his gambles pay off he’s good to go. What the fuck kind of Prime Minister is that? He’s dodgy as fuck!
      FYI.
      Minister of agriculture: Todd McClay. Who knew?
      Associate Agriculture Minister : Nicola Grigg. Also Minister of State for Trade. Again. Who knew?
      The success of their portfolios are essential to all of AO/NZ but we never hear from the ministers. Why? Again. What the fuck is going in?

  2. Lux luxury bar of soap probably has some nice property waiting for him in Heaven when he goes to meet the chief realtor Jesus! the chosen will be happy!

  3. His beliefs are immaterial. He’ll continue doing whatever suits him and his self-serving boorish mates. The only upside is the possibility of his brainier coalition colleagues reining him in.

  4. The Ten Commandments from the National party Brible

    1. Thou shall love power above all.
    2. Prejudice and hatred are way the truth and the lie
    3.War is good.
    4.Take from the poor and give to the rich.
    5. Heaven is for those who invade conquer and steal.
    6.The Angels rejoice when Maori and Asians are destroyed.
    7.Gays are all evil and must be burn in Hell.
    8.Feminists must be beaten to a pulp with a pillar of salt.
    9.Greens prevent us mining so they all must be eliminated.
    10. Have a happy day and praise Gold.

  5. If Luxon continues to allow the teaching of maatauranga in science classes, he is definitely showing a lack of respect for science.

      • That comment is indicative of the confusion caused by promotion of maatauranga as “co-equal” with so-called “Western science” – a misnomer implying that the modern scientific method is somehow not relevant to non-westerners. It’s true that Chinese scientists now outnumber Americans on the pages of the worlds top science journals. But what kind of science do you think those Chinese are doing? The same kind of modern science that’s done all round the world. It has nothing to do with ethnicity. Maatauranga reflects the worldview of a neolithic culture, and has no place in a modern science class.

      • There is no such thing as Pakeha science either, Gordon, or Asian science or Maori science.
        There is Modern science which uses an established methodology, unsurprisingly known as the scientific method. If the inquiry uses it then its scientific inquiry and thus science. If not its something else.
        Playing post-modernist games with the language and watering down the basic definitions for political reasons really does nobody any long term good.

    • Not to mention the greens want the Muslim call to prayer in Wellington lol.
      But Christian’s bad.
      Mad hypocrisy from the left is everywhere.

      • Well the inquiry into abuse in care shows the “Christians” have a lot to answer for. Let’s face it they are all shades of the same thing. The Israelis (at least the Zionist administration) are proving to be every bit as feral as their enemies.

      • You’d have to be really really stupid to believe what keepcamlcarryon just posted …

        Why do idiots post such outlandish bullshit about Wellington ??

        “the Kilbirnie Mosque has requested to broadcast calls to prayer on the anniversary of the Christchurch mosque attacks, once during the Festival of Eid al-Adha, and once during the Festival of Eid al-Fitr.”

        “At each broadcast, the call would last about a minute and a half to two minutes,”

        “the broadcast is not intended as a call throughout the neighbourhood or suburb. Instead, it would take place at a mosque forecourt and be amplified using a sound system “for the benefit of those assembled there”.

        … And to think keepcalmcarryon bleats on about people misrepresenting and exaggerating the case against military style firearms ……

        Looks like it is more likely to be him doing the misrepresenting and exaggerating,,, judging from his fearmongering post above …..

      • Yes agree Keepcalmcarryon we need look no further than the Greens who are failures at both Local and central Government,imagine them trying to run the country.

  6. * Mandate voting then try again. Because if we don’t mandate the vote we’ll keep ending up with the same tired old whores wearing lipstick, fishnets and high heels.
    FYI Thinkers.
    *mandate
    noun
    noun: mandate; plural noun: mandates
    /ˈmandeɪt/
    1.
    an official order or commission to do something.
    “a mandate to seek the release of political prisoners”
    Similar:
    instruction
    directive
    direction
    decree
    command
    order
    injunction
    edict
    charge
    commission
    bidding
    warrant
    ruling
    ordinance
    law
    statute
    fiat
    ukase
    pronunciamento
    Law
    a commission by which a party is entrusted to perform a service, especially without payment and with indemnity against loss by that party.
    a written authorization enabling someone to carry out transactions on another’s bank account.
    historical
    a commission from the League of Nations to a member state to administer a territory.
    “the end of the British mandate in Palestine”
    2.
    the authority to carry out a policy, regarded as given by the electorate to a party or candidate that wins an election.
    “he called an election to seek a mandate for his policies”

  7. A couple of weeks ago I asked a aluminum hatter why they drove a car fueled by petrol the other day if they believed science was wrong.
    They couldn’t see the connection between science and progress.
    I don’t imagine Luxon and his team of antifactuals are any different.
    They will use science if they see a personal benefit and it makes money but not if it opposes their ideology.

    • You do realise the cost of EVs are out of reach for many?
      You do realise the mining involved making the batteries?
      You do realise the additional weight of these EVs are ripping up roads?
      You do realise the grid would/could not cope with charging so many more EVs?
      Of course you know all these facts Uncle Tom….but it’s the ‘feelz’ eh?? Forget the facts, the FEELZ wins!
      Ohh and less EVs being made and bought, they are being outstripped at point of sale by ICE cars.

  8. Now see here!
    I know God personally( went to school with him ectually) and when I asked him what he thought of Christopher Luxon, God said’ never heard of the feller. Did he go to Christ’s College?’

  9. Luxon maybe doesn’t like the idea that he needs an “advisor”. He ran an airline and knows “numbers and economics” and stuff like that. (Though he probably just uncritically swallowed the over-simplifications and errors of undergraduate neoclassical economics 30-odd years ago.)
    Second, Luxon is not a Christian. He’s an evangelical which is a heretical off-shoot that has abused the Protestant doctrine of Sola Scriptura to cynically create a pile of self-serving trash that some people call “prosperity gospel”.
    In short, Luxon is an incoherent mess.

  10. The proper question is never do they “believe” in science or climate change etc, but whether they understand it. Understanding the processes involved in either leads to respecting science as the most powerful method of examining and interpreting reality known to mankind.
    Luxon clearly doesn’t respect it.

    • The proper question is never do they “believe” in science or climate change etc, but whether they understand it.
      This reminds me of a withering quote from film A Fish Called Wanda.
      Wanda: But you think you’re an intellectual, don’t you, ape?
      Otto: Apes don’t read philosophy.
      Wanda: Yes they do, Otto, they just don’t understand it!

      (Bonus Wanda wisdoms: http://www.imdb.com
      Wanda: Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not every man for himself, and the London Underground is not a political movement.)

      A soupcon updating modern religion – fashioned to fit your lifestyle. Naturally the foremost learning is from Harvard University. (As Tom Lehrer would say ‘These are the… ones of which the news has come to Harvard There may be many others but they haven’t been discovered,)
      The Prosperity Gospel (PG) is a fast-growing theologically conservative movement frequently associated with Pentecostalism, evangelicalism, and charismatic Christianity that emphasizes believers’ abilities to transcend poverty and/or illness through devotion and positive confession.
      Prosperity Gospel, The – Religion and Public Life at Harvard Divinity School
      https://rpl.hds.harvard.edu › faq › prosperity-gospel

  11. The role had become less than convincing with the scientific advisers wheeled out to give opinions on too many areas. Good riddance.

  12. Now, 58, my pares had better things to do than influence us, with their good old NZ troubled marriage, so in came the most ignorant twot among my sibs when I was 14, and took off all 4 of my sibs.

    So I do know all about born again christianity for the powerful. Not all of it is prosperity doctrine. If the BACs in govt agree with prosperity doctrine you have a shaft up their arse. I suspect you’re assuming out of ignorance.

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