Was Coster pushed or bribed?

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Police Commissioner Andrew Coster quits for new role

  • Andrew Coster is stepping down as Police Commissioner after four years.
  • Coster will take up a role as the new Chief of the Social Investment Agency.
  • He was set to finish his role in April but will now resign early to start his new position on November 11.

I fear we are in a very dangerous place.

During the Dumb Lives Matter protest on Parliament’s Lawns, Coster saved NZ from its own self by resisting sending in the Riot Police.

Sure they ended up going in thanks to Mallard’s blunder after blunder after blunder, but Coster saved us from ourselves over that terrible incident.

He knew he would be judged harshly by history, yes the middle class Wellingtonians saw Nazis everywhere, but he knew this was far broader than bad faith actors, he knew half of them were Labour/Green voters, he knew riot Police could spark something far greater.

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He held the line against the brutal jackboot of the State.

In the end Mallard’s bewildering incompetence and terrible judgment made conflict inevitable.

This Government urgently needs an over the top tough on crime symbolism to detract from the economic collapse caused by their austerity budget.

Luxon wants to send 500 armed police into a Gang Tang to remove Gang Patches.

Coster knows he can never sign off on that.

National knows Coster could never sign off on that.

So Coster had been offered a plump bullshit job as part of the Big Data algorithm Investment Experiment that Bill English is trying to con the Government into.

By getting rid of Coster, a guard rail has been bribed out of existence.

Whoever the Government picks as the new Commissioner will get the job based on whether or not they think starting a civil war against the Gangs by invading their funerals using heavy handed tactics is worth the salary.

We will miss Andrew Coster soon enough.

 

 

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47 COMMENTS

  1. He was given the job because it would have been an embarasment had he joined the exodus of cops leaving NZ for a real life .He knows that current government race based crime measures are not the way to go so he has taken up a patsy position where he does not have to look like an idiot.There will be no or very little funding for his new role and no need to show any improvement in the lives of 3 million kiwis as this government is only interested in the top 10%.One only has to look at the current hospital builds that are being stopped at Whangarei ,nelson and Dunedin to see that the wellfare of kiwis is not high on the list of priorities of this government .The 3 billion given to land lords could have paid for these hospitals or even the clearly much needed roll on roll off ferries .But no we must give free money to the already well off instead of making sure that every kiwi can get health care .

    • Bye, Bye Health!

      Written By: Mountain Tui – Date published: 12:59 pm, September 26th, 2024 – 19 comments
      Categories: budget 2024, chris bishop, health, Shane Reti, simeon brown – Tags: budget priorities, hospitals, Infrastructure debt, South Island

      Bye, Bye hospital plans!

      Today Rachel Thomas reports – $3.2 billion is sleighted to come out of “hospital and mental health infrastructure projects”, and it seems the first formal casualty is Dunedin hospital, South Island.

      https://thestandard.org.nz/bye-bye-health/

      Tony Veitch 3
      26 September 2024 at 4:05 pm

      The CoC proposes to spend $30 billion on ‘roads of national significance’, but are quite prepared to cut funding to health and social services!

      There is a rationale underlying these decisions – their wealthy donors have private health insurance, send their kids to private schools and probably have never entered a WINZ office in their lives.

      But – they do use roads – to get to the airport for their overseas holidays or to the beach to their baches. Therefore, roads and speeds on roads are important to these wealthy donors.

      • Good points in the Veitch comment, some overlook the fact that quite often peoples material position in life significantly determines their political world view. Those waging war on the poor MKII, including defunding Dunedin Hospital, indeed have private health etc. So they don’t give a toss.

        The weird thing is though that some of this austerity and attacks on the working class could come back to bite them too. Underfunded Ambulance service, Video consults rather than full treatment at provincial hospitals, scarcity of GPs, would come into stark relief if one of them crashed that Porsche Cayenne en route to the bach.

    • #BHN National lies about Dunedin hospital, screws over another generation

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3IoF1KNsWQ

      @icehawke543
      55 minutes ago
      Dunedin gets patients from well out of the region as well. I.e. north island when wards are full in Auckland and Waikato. This actually affects everyone around the entire country and people need to scream and shout about it.

      @raywheeler3135
      49 minutes ago
      “We can’t justify spending $3 billion on a hospital beacuse that money should be going to lazy tax dodging landlords”

      @PaulG.x
      1 hour ago
      OMG it was going to cost $3 billion!
      Who would be stupid enough to think any NZ government would have enough spare cash to throw $3 billion away on a whim – perhaps to landlords , of which everyone of the National MPs is one ?

      • Brilliant analysis 11.

        Where does he say “Free Money” Bob the fist?

        Out of 11’s entire post, the best trolling you can come up with is an imaginary quote?

        Bob the fist a mental health bed is available now for you.

        Care to explain Bob the fist?

      • If I’m a landlord this Government has given me “free money” the previous government did not give “free money” to landlords. Quite simple really.

    • Gordon walker “ … there will be no or very little funding for his new role.” Correct. And surely Coster must know this, having presided over an under-funded, under-paid police force, apart from himself on about $700.00O per annum. His job is to implement English’s social engineering program almost certainly sans the wherewithal to do so. You rightly point out that this government is geared towards helping the “haves” at the expense of the “ have-nots” and IMO, neither Luxon or Coster have the magical skills to perform some biblical loaves and fishes miracle. In the current climate of chronic health underfunding causing desperate people pain and suffering, it’s hard not to see this appointment as window dressing.

    • started with the former National leader Simon Bridges calling Coster “wokester”, the current Police Minister
      Yes millsy and why on earth would Coster want to work for such a shit and abusive government…see below…

      ” Mark Mitchell compared Coster’s policing style to “having cups of tea with gang members”, coalition party leader David Seymour’s called him “smarmy”, “Commissioner Gaslight” and called for his resignation, “Cuddles Coster” is what some in Cabinet have been heard to call him.”

      This government is dangerous, when you have party leaders and MPs lacking maturity. Seymour is not fit to be in government.

  2. Mallard, idiot as he may be, wasn’t to blame for the police, for some reason being sent to the Parliamentary protest without protective head gear, and sustaining some horrible injuries. Police inaction at the ‘Let Woman Speak’ Albert Park event, and apparently monitoring the situation while women got terrorised and beaten, has left many women pretty sceptical about contemporary policing.Hopefully Coster will produce the report on that before he goes to participate in Bill English’s social experiment.

    • The Let Women Speak event was a Christian Pentecostal Evangalical Protesant hate fest, that wanted LGBT people to be chased back in the closet. Christians who call for the execution of gays deserve everything they get,.

  3. Mr Coster’s possie was always going to be tenuous under CoC.

    The Natzos want the true culture of the NZ plods to be paramount–racial profiling, violent, macho, misogynist, anti union (yes I know cops have a union, but it is more a protection racket like the US ones), and supporting the neo liberal state over free speech action for progressive causes like Climate Disaster.

  4. ‘Coster Cuddles’, he will not be missed!
    Worst police commissioner in decades, I’m more surprised he lasted this long with this new Govt, Coster was more interested in cuddling crims than arresting them.

    • You’re 12 years old so ” decades” is an exaggeration. However he did not katow to Nationals dictatorship and took another role.
      Immature Seymour and butcher Mitchell should resign for trying to politically influence Coster whose integrity is fully intact.

  5. Rural Otago village standoff: Unofficial roadblocks, nunchucks and cannabis cultivation https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/rural-otago-village-standoff-unofficial-roadblocks-nunchucks-and-cannabis-cultivation/3HRJIPRO2VCH3MGKIYLAT6LKRM/undefined

    Mosgiel police are setting up charges on innocent people, using drug dealers as witnesses to made up events, the police are facilitating a drug operation and hit jobs. They are using the totally corrupt Dunedin courts to destroy innocent peoples lives. This body corporate is a massive disgusting fraud. The police here are criminals.
    That was the second time a woman was used to ‘set up’ an ‘event’ on this road, the police switch it to being a road rage event on the person following the slow vehicle. Last time an attempted car jacking happened with three people in the slow car. The police wrote it up as the following car was tailgating and had instigated the event. Other events of trying to get a driving conviction on an innocent person have been repeatedly happening. This is organised crime, police, defence lawyers all working together for criminal fraud and drug operations at Waipori Falls. The ex-chairman just ran away after setting up a disgusting malicious fraud.
    Congratulations this is what ‘left leaning’ looks like. Total corruption with ‘amazing stories’ attached to justify bullshit all the while feeling good about destroying peoples lives.

  6. I repect Coster, because he was a very good Commissioner. As a qualified lawyer he’s a smart guy. And maybe some criticism of him was because of tall poppy, that’s just the way it is in NZ. From his point of view, I’m glad that he’s moving to another top position in the public service. Once someone gets to the rank of Commissioner, then they ussually retire from Police when they leave that role. Staying on at a lower rank could appear to be a demotion. The police are a big organisation full of all sorts of people, some good and some not so good and some bad, and the Commissioner can’t be expected to sort out all the issues, in such an organistion overnight. A proper watchdog instead of the useless IPCA would be one thing, but we all know that will never happen. I don’t know his age, but I would have preferred he stayed and have his term extended, but hopefully that next Commissioner will be of a high standard, and without any controversial baggage that later becomes known. And hopefully the decision will will not be politically influenced behind the scenes, but I’d suggest I’m probably wrong about that count, because again that’s just the way it is in NZ. Good luck Andrew 🙂

  7. A tiny population of greedy neo-liberal morons are going to be our undoing unless we come up with a plan and so far, no plans so far are workable.
    14 multi-billionaires, 3118 multi-millionaires and four now foreign owned banks own us in exactly that same way slaves were, and in some cases, still are, owned.
    Film.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomadland
    We’re owned. When our government is no longer ours and yet we must do what the pretence of a government tells to do then we are, by definition, owned. Enslaved.
    The supermarkets own us! The gas stations own us! The four main, now foreign owned banks own us. Visa owns us. Sure, we think we’re free to do as we please, like not be owned, and we can move about and travel and have weekends off etc but ask yourselves this. Am I truly free? When you’re waking up in your bed on Saturday morning you’d need breakfast and a shower. Then, you’d need to buy gas and groceries. But are you free? Or are you really just a point of sale because if you don’t get, you don’t eat, and if you don’t eat you’ll die. How free do you feel really?
    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/sep/24/visa-doj-antitrust-investigation
    @ MB fails to understand that his most loathed : ” During the Dumb Lives Matter protest on Parliament’s Lawns, Coster saved NZ from its own self by resisting sending in the Riot Police.”
    Did Coster ‘save’ nu zillind. Or did Coster make matters far, far worse by not allowing the protest to escalate.
    We’re in a sink hole now. We’re drowning under the weight of helpless powerless inaction. We’re being preyed upon by greedy, dull, ugly, little people and as climate change worsens we’re going to come to see that our AO/NZ will be taken from us but not by aggressive attack. It’ll be by a sleepy casual infection injected into us by a few smiling bald assassins wearing ugly suits.
    Protest is healthy. Protest is a sign that times have a beating heart.
    I’m almost certain that Coster would agree but hey, he has food to put on the table and when the bellies full all else is art.
    Every now and then @ MB you send out alarming signals of one who has other agendas.
    What do we have?
    600,000 people living hand to mouth. 200,000 kids going hungry. Hospital waiting lists where people literally die waiting. A housing crisis and dire poverty directly attached to the unrestrained greed of billionaires, millionaires and the fucking australian banking cartels who will also be chocking off our access to what were our exclusive foreign markets for our farmers produce. We have a government which isn’t that. It is instead a mafia like entity where all the members of that governance which again isn’t that, tells us how much suffering they’re about to send us which is entirely unnecessary and yet inevitable but is what we must suck up.
    Why? How? Because we fuck about worrying that we might look far too much like dicks to protest! Well, FUCK THAT! I won’t do what you tell me!
    Rage Against The Machine.
    https://youtu.be/bWXazVhlyxQ?feature=shared
    The lawn protest was fantastic stuff and I don’t care what it was about. The point was, was that it happened. Vaccinate or not? White versus Black? Girl versus Boy? You have a cock but wanted a vagina? Fuck yeah! Make a fucking fuss because this weak, dribbly-dick/vage combo compliance is scary, dangerous and embarrassing.

  8. Coster was a good cop ham strung by Labour’s soft on crime approach .
    In the last few months that he has shown what he could achieve. He would seem to be the perfect fit for the English scheme.

    • I like him and always thought he caught an unfair amount of abuse from both sides. I usually hate to agree with Tova Obrien about anything but she made a good point about politicians hurling abuse at people (like Coster) that really can’t reply because they have to be politically neutral.

      He wasn’t perfect but I struggle to think of anyone that is.

    • rubbish the police were catching record amounts of drugs coming to NZ long before these muppets came along .He is now jumping ship before the shit hits the fan the first time 500 police turn up to a tangi as he knows full well that is not the solution .Collecting gang patches will not reduce crime in anyway and I would say it may actually increase crime .If every gang member handed in their patch they then become unable to be seen so it will be easier to commit a crime and not be identified .Also this a huge amount of resources being put into 8000 people while 175k are being assulted each year .I read a story yesterday about crime in Whakatane where it was pointed out that offenders were 47% Maori .40% Pakeha and the rest were other nationalities which flies in the face of often spoken lie that maori commit 80% of the crime in NZ .

  9. How long will he last in the job when he goes to the government and points out he needs 100 billion to reverse the social decline in the country .Having another mouth piece spouting on about lazy people and how lazy the sick and dying are and how happy people are living in a cardboard box under abridge with their 3 kids because they have been thrown on the employment scrap heap to make some employer feel good .Also how can he justify working people living in poverty after all his owners keep telling us getting a job driving a digger is the way to grow at the same time as they close every construction site in NZ down .

  10. Both bribed and pushed. A thoughtful human being like Coster could not work for long with a head-banging moron like Mitchell – it had to end, amicably or otherwise.
    I would have hoped that Coster was smart enough to see through Billy English’s “social investment” nonsense for what it is: a pseudo-scientific attempt to divert blame for social ills away from how the economy deliberately redistributes wealth upwards, and onto the individual failings and deficiencies of people at the bottom. It is old-style Victorian morality dressed up with a gloss of science for respectability. As an ex-Treasury operative, little Billy is a master of superficially plausible intellectual justifications for cruelty.

    Maybe there’s a glimmer of hope, and Coster will be able humanise the punitive monster that social investment will become if it was left to Billy (and his family?).

  11. Ok what’s happening is that Coster was not going to be able to stay in his position under this government, and so it has proved as he does not fit the governments jack boot agenda. It was clear from the start he wouldn’t remain and his new position really is lipstick on a pig. Too bad for him for his career to end this way. Mitchell wants to create a private security force to combat the violence he is formenting with the gangs over the patches, he has already admitted that his own private security team existed because governments can’t do the job. It’s all part of the Atlas Network plan:privatisation at all cost, reduce government. Can’t believe how easy it has been for this government to dismantle practically everything, so swiftly. Labourtake note, you shoulda burnt your political capital while you had it.

  12. The role became a poison chalice for Costner. The so called “soft approach by Labour” was actually the “evidence-based approach” derived from research both overseas and here in NZ. The approach taken by CoC and their supporters is the failed “get tough on crime” that has been proven to be ineffective in changing criminal behaviour.
    So CoC are taking NZ backwards again. What will CoC say when this approach is unsuccessful (again) – I suspect the usual deny, deflect and deceive will be to the fore.

    • Evidence based? Oh yes, what “evidence” informed the police’s decision to let protestors assault women at that rally in Albert Park?

    • Coster comes across as an intelligent, sincere person trying to do the best in a very difficult role, he got kicked around like a political football.

  13. Tighty righty doesn’t do evidence based, he’s too busy swooning over the poster of everyone’s favourite American guffaw John Key.

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