Ministry of Justice warns NZ First-National coalition commitment risks doubling prison population
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- The National-NZ First coalition agreement committed to ending concurrent sentences for offences committed while on parole, bail, or in custody.
- The Ministry of Justice estimated this could double the prison population, so the Government has opted to ‘encourage’ ending concurrent sentences as a first step.
- Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith has previously said the Government would still honour the coalition commitment during this parliamentary term, but last night he said: “We’ll see.”
Honouring a National-NZ First coalition commitment could put an additional 10,000 people in prison for mostly minor offences, more than doubling the prison population in what Ministry of Justice officials describe as “not a feasible option”.
The estimate is contained in the ministry’s regulatory impact statement (Ris) on the suite of sentencing reforms that Cabinet has now signed off, with a bill enabling them to be introduced to Parliament this week.
Measures include capping sentencing discounts at 40%, limits on discounts for youth and remorse, a sliding scale for pleading guilty, and “encouraging the use of cumulative sentencing for offences committed while on bail, in custody, or on parole”.
In NZ we have angry Māori and Pacifica youth attacking dairy’s and service stations fighting exploited migrant workers from China and India while the white suburbs clutch their pearls and scream ‘something must be done’
The Political Right want a war on crime because their fearful reactionary voting base are always terrified by the Media’s lust with crime porn for click bait.
National are so ideologically hateful they will add 10 000 into NZ prisons for minor offences.
Their toxic cocktail of tough on crime policy will see our prison population explode by 10 000 for mostly minor crimes which will cost billions more while creating all the conditions for a massive prison riots and mass prison privatisation.
In NZ we are not interested in rehabilitating criminals or healing broken men, we want them to suffer and this desire to make the prisoners suffer is leading to counterproductive social policy that will only make issues worse.
To put 10 000 more into our broken prison system and think that is a solution gives you real insight into how ideologically hateful the Political Right have become.
Ain’t it funny how the factories doors close?‘Round the time that the school doors close?‘Round the time that a hundred thousand jail cellsOpen up to greet you like the reaper?
System of a Down – Ashes in the Fall
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It is all part of the Natzo war on the poor. It starts with health, housing and education cuts, for guess who…then proceeds to boot camp and then private prison. There is a clamp down happening thanks to some genuinely vindictive nasty bastards in CoC and their supporters of course.
Time to give them a serve back.
I think the natzos and their vile little flea followers are forward-planning.
I think we’re about to lose our AO/NZ by benign stealth and I see the ludicrous preemptive threat of imprisonment for any feeble social resistance as a warning. ” Resist, and you will go to jail.” No doubt private.
What you must do, all of you, is to think. It’s an old fashioned notion we had before Tee Vee and the interweb.
Our AO/NZ is larger than the UK by 29 K square kilometres.
Our AO/NZ does one thing exceptionally well. We farm food.
Our AO/NZ has a population of 5.2 million of which there are 3 million over the age of 18, the voting age. Population projections show that there are currently about 842,000 people aged 65+ so subtract 842,000 from 3,000,000 and you get 2,158,000 people of employment age. I don’t see much resistance coming from the remnants of 2,158,000 people when our new owners arrive
Voting isn’t mandated where-as enrolment is which means we’re already being watched.
The natzo’s are, without a doubt, paving the way for those others who’ve already bought them.
I’m writing this looking out over stunning countryside to snow capped mountains beyond a harbour and fertile farm lands and it’s a glorious, sunny morning while the rest of the world’s on fire as our urban fleas will soon be thinking very seriously about eating each other in the not too distant future.
I’m sure a Texas hot sauce would be lovely with arse steak or thigh sausage.
Helen Mirren just came to mind.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cook,_the_Thief,_His_Wife_%26_Her_Lover
” You can start with the penis. At least you know where that’s been. “
Will be money $$$ well spent at $200k per prisoner per year.
Good luck with that as the new prison has been delayed a year so where are they going to put 10k .The new prison will only hold 600 so there is a short fall of 9400 beds at a cost of at least 100k per bed to build and 6 years to get them built at least .There goes the wellington long tunnel
I’d rather have prison built than another tunnel in Wellington….easy decision.
Yep me to righty, to lock up this criminal government…easy decision.
Mmm, maybe better to spend $50k on rehabilitation $100k on health and $50k on education.
Yes uncle the 9.5 billion needed for the 9500 extra cells would pay for a large amount of housing and rehab .We all know there is very little rehab in prisons and recently this government cut all culture based rehab courses in jails on race grounds even though they continue to tell us the majority of prisoners are brown .
Martyn – Paul Goldsmith, Justice Minister, said the opposite…reduce the prison numbers for very minor crimes…such as minor Cannabis possession.
Paul Goldsmith says lots of things, that doesn’t make them happen though. I would be surprised if he managed to get his underwear on facing the right way without help in the morning.
Bonnie – His argument was due to costs, which is in keeping with the current Government mission.
I guess they could try stopping attacking dairies and service stations? And, while they are at it, they could try not carrying Cannabis while they do it. Two birds with one stone.. I should become a politician, i’d have the country sorted in 5 mins. 🙂
That’s what Luxon, Mitchell, Goldsmith, Willis, Seymour, Peters, Jones, Bishop, Brown, etc etc etc thought.
So far after the best part of a year all the they have managed is to have our GDP per Capita at record low levels, unemployment rocking up, health failing, less cops, more potholes, ferry debacle.In essence sweet fuck all. They’ve dragged us down beyond where we were after the 2008 crash and have absolutely no idea how to turn the ship around.
Absolutely clueless because they are all unimaginative and have been radicalized since birth to believe that they are right and we should all go back to Thatcherism.
Didn’t work for Bolger, Douglas was a loony but these twats think it’s the holy grail.
5 years of destruction and 15 years to try and get out of the whole.
But it doesn’t matter because in 20 years we will probably be too busy trying to find water and power and food and energy to worry.
Anarchy here we come.
Sorry i should have been clearer. The perpetrators could try stopping it.
Brilliant description, usually the damage National does in government takes a bit longer to show up but this lot are so deluded in their actions that they need to fix their own mistakes which is going to be impossible when the only tool they have is tax cuts for the already wealthy.
Why not a fascist state run by you ? Then you could be known as
KIM DUNG BLOWGUN
sure as shit a couldn’t do worse than the clowns we have had for the last 40 years of both sides.. That does have a certain ring to it tho… well the first bit anyway.
me too ,and scrap the 4 lanes to Whangarei ,two excellent lanes withe great safety will be good enough after all we must cut back on the NICE TO HAVES which is what four lannig for 10k cars a day is .
UK , USA , AUSTRALIA and even NZ when two decades of massesd research shows harsher sentences and penalties are NOT a crime deterrent of course the CoC think it’s a great idea.
Prison is not a ‘ correctional’ facilty nor rehabilitation and when this government has cut and even ended funding to the agencies who do the ‘ rehabilitation ‘ or ‘ reintegration ‘ it’s all a lie.
Sounds good as an election promise though.
https://www.transformjustice.org.uk/news-insight/the-myth-that-tough-sanctions-deter-crime-revealed-by-the-sentencing-council/
https://www.auckland.ac.nz/en/news/2023/09/21/being-tough-on-crime-is-easy-but-doesnt-work.html
https://www.unsw.edu.au/newsroom/news/2020/07/do-harsher-punishments-deter-crime
I don’t know where you get this ‘tough on crime’ notion from. Prison sentences in the US, are routinely for 20, 30 , 50 years. People there draw sentences of 30 years for killing someone while driving drunk. Australia and the UK also have sentences commonly in the decades and not just for murder. Whereas the average sentence for murder in NZ would be around 15 years before parole. NZ even under National remains one of the softest countries in the world on crime
In the USA they spend more money on police and prisons than they do on schools, healthcare, welfare and public housing.