Prime Minister Chris Luxon will deliver an official apology to all those abused in State care. He will make this apology after restarting military boot camps that research shows don’t work and only add to more state abuse.
Historically up to 200 000 kiwis were abused by the State and Church, the staff filming and organising last years fight clubs in the Oranga Tamariki youth prison had 2 weeks training – underfunded public services are still abusing Kiwis today!
The NZDF didn’t want to run these boot camps and Minister Karen Chhour didn’t work with any Māori organizations to help design them – DESPITE 9 of the boys in the first 10 being Māori.
Findings of the Royal Commission on Abuse in State care suggest that 80-90 percent of gang members were victims of abuse.
If we don’t want more organised crime, perhaps the State should stop manufacturing gang members.
You would think that the very least National could do in light of implementing more counter productive culture war revenge fantasies masquerading as social policy is at least get the performative part of the apology right!
They’ve managed to mangle even that with news that there are only 1700 spaces when there are 200 000 survivors…
Abuse in state care apology feels rushed, venue convenient for politcians – survivor
The government is causing more harm with its plan to limit the number of people who can attend the national apology for abuse in state care, survivors say.
Just last week the coalition was being praised for agreeing to cover travel costs for survivors heading to the apology in Wellington, after RNZ revealed in July many had to cover their own costs to see the Royal Commission of Inquiry report tabled in Parliament.
But only 180 people would be able to witness it in person in Parliament on 12 November and just over 1500 would be able watch it on screen at official events in Auckland, Wellington and Christchurch.
Hanz Freller, who was groomed and abused by Brother Bernard McGrath for three years in the government-supported Hebron Trust, said limiting the number who could be at the apology was absurd.
“You’ve had hundreds and hundreds, if not thousands, of people coming forward and now you’re saying only 1700 people can come and listen to the apology across all venues. It seems to be a bit of a slap in the face to be honest,” Freller told RNZ.
More than 3800 people registered their interest with the Royal Commission of Inquiry and more than 2300 survivors gave evidence as well as almost 500 whānau, advocates, experts leaders, former staff and others.
But the final report estimated more than 200,000 people suffered abuse and neglect in state or faith-based care from 1950 until 2019.
Freller said the government seemed more concerned about getting the apology out of the way and its venue being convenient for the politicians, rather than expressing genuine remorse.
“Why have it in a space that only allows for 300 people. You might get 300 people just from Wellington what about everyone else that wants to turn up from outside of town to be there for this historic apology? They don’t get a chance.
…this Government has zero interest in making this apology at the very same time as they are implementing draconian new punishment regimes for state tenants, beneficiaries and the disabled alongside putting 10 000 more into prison for minor offences.
They don’t want to remind Kiwis that the State is the biggest abuser, and that politicising social policy into revenge fantasies results in more state abuse.
They are slapping the faces of those who have been abused once again and shown they have learned nothing while plowing ahead with more malice and spite.
Weep at what we have become.
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It will be a false apology as this government dont actually give a fuck about anyone except the top 10%.Every day they extend the range of people being abused by gutting the public service and cutting services to the disabled ,unemployed and old people living alone in their own homes etc.That is how they get off daily by looking at the growing numbers they are abusing .Just look at the latest Luxon ejaculation the so called war on gangs and how he is now getting police to fudge the numbers of gang members in NZ .These are the same numbers he used while in opposition to bash the former government in his daily dog whistle .Now he wants police to remove a thousand or so to make it look like his sexual fantasy is working .This is the same as last sundays lie that they were reducing crime when in fact it has risen by 20% in the last year .In a small area of Auckland where they sent in an army of police to move on the homeless they are crowing about lowering crime when in fact they have just moved it to the next suburb where they have lowered the police numbers .
Excellent stuff @ G.W.
A PM resorting to using the word ” frickin” shows his inability to use the correct language. Just waiting now to see if Bob the fists illiteracy picks up on his idols poor English.
Luxton appears to do the double speak trick which Sir John Key mastered beautifully, saying one thing then doing the other FOS IMHO ???
Go you @ Ngungukai.
Here’s a thing re jonky.
jonky described the waitress he was bully as being enticing, or rather that her pony tail was ‘enticing’.
*Polkinghorne the psychopath described the working girl he’d been paying to play the role of the infatuated femme fatale as being ‘intoxicating’. What is it with narcissistic psychopaths and their blinkered lunacy?
I can guarantee you, this latest bald narcissist bathing in his own views of his awesome self, our very own PM, will be the same thing. A narcissistic sociopath blinded by his own light for which we must carry the load.
Honestly, we could get better governance out of a chicken.
The Ballad of Buster Scruggs. A Coen Brothers masterpiece.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ballad_of_Buster_Scruggs
I think I’m trying to write that we, us lot. We AO/NZ’ers are being governed, bullied and exploited by a cadre of complete and utter evil cunts.
* The en zed herald an’ that. The Blank Minded Kiwi’s arse paper of choice.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/crime/philip-polkinghorne-murder-trial-live-updates-jury-sent-home-for-the-night-deliberations-to-continue-next-week/63ZNUKPE55B6DLZHBRPDUYAADE/
It is disgraceful, which is tragically what we have learned to expect from this government. As well as this, there is the crackdown on gang patches in public etc – if the government really wanted to slow down the gang culture, how about providing affordable, healthy housing for all citizens? How about a functioning mental health system? How about wages that allow you to live above poverty levels? Being able to get up and go to a job, not the Work and Income office, again. But to provide those things, you would have to tax the wealthy….
All good points you make Steve.
The prejudices of the better off and their “war on the poor” are surely counter productive for the capitalists who need consumers. Working class people are being driven into unemployment and then dealt to by MSD/WINZ to rub it in.
There are Kāinga Ora state houses in progress that have been halted for a “review” what the…just build them, school kids lunches have been downgraded from nutritious hot meals to dried out $3 sandwiches…the austerity list is long, it is what we do about it that counts.
agree 100%
We certainly need a real genuine PM that is upright and shoots straight, not this pretend leader who should be back in the USA pimping deodorant.
Well done PM, no need to get emotional when you are not personally responsible for what your apologizing for.
Well done nonetheless.
Frickin wrong there bozo.
So let’s examine the cause of the massive world plastic pollution problem and who was responsible for the unilever division that has caused so much of it. With a bit of luck he’ll chocked on his own microplastics.
The Coalition,the first Government in some time,prepared to do something real about this appalling situation.
By creating more abuse, yes the coalition is real, really stupid.
So who started the inquiry then? The CoC would have cancelled it if they had half a chance so it is just good timing that most of the work was done before the election result changed the government.
Maybe you should try selling whatever special medicine you take as there are probably lots of people who would like to be in the alternative reality that allows you to keep making false comments.
The Coalition of chaos,the first Government in some time,prepared to do nothing real about this appalling situation or in health.
By every measure the country has gone backwards, every measure.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350422855/health-minister-warned-first-hand-doctors-about-impact-staffing-shortages
Crime figures are surging…upwards… under their lunatic ill conceived reckons….that’s what’s real…that’s for sure !! They won’t not achieve jack shit!!!.. the intellect is simply not there!
Everywhere else, other than Epsom, Remuera, South and North Canterbury , Southland and Otago…where delusional thinking disorders staves off depression… they are now called… “The Clueless Coalition of Catastrophic Chaos’…
Couldn’t be more accurate!
Have you been living under a rock Fisted? The enquiry was brought in by the last Labour government after the Dwarf from Dipton refused to hold one when he was prime minister. Nothing to do with him being a practising Roman Catholic and the same church being a front for the world’s biggest paedophile ring of course.
Easy to see where the above 3 commentators come from…and Walker how about cleaning up your language, emotive bursts like yours simply cloud the facts you want to highlight
@ robbie.
So that’s your input then? To snipe at others who bother to give fucks?
Where’s your input then? Hiding behind your snooty condescensions ?
Let it all hang out I say! Write, write, write! Those who can, write. Because those who can’t, criticize.
how about you actually contribute to the conversation .You must be a friend of bob the first and cum shot Erik
It’s very odd. I thought the CoC would take every chance to villify the state in order to bolster their ruling narrative that the private sector is always better at absolutely everything.
Yes, your right again Gordon and for baldly to say it’s not fricken targets its outcomes targets are the means to achieve outcomes or goals. He starting to lose the plot and what do you expect he is fucken useless and full of it. This is what happens when you make up shit.
Yes , …Wow ..a Prime Minister who has anger management issues and can’t control his temper…Everyone knows ‘fricken’ actually means ‘ fuck’n’…and he’s said it twice now in interviews.
Can you imagine the outcry from the media if Jacinda had used such terminology…And where’s the non journalist ,who thinks he’s a journalist, Hosking on this???
He should be all over this like a rash if he wants to demonstrate any form of consistency and credibility.
He was always challenging Dame Jacinda on anything and everything.. no matter how minor or inconsequential . Yet with Luxon…absolute silence!!
Luxon is clearly nor coping. Let’s face it. It was a stupid idea to have a, (let’s be honest), an average middle management greenhorn, think that he could just rock up and run a country.
If he goes the full 3years i’ll be very surprised . Only 10 months in and National are already in all sorts of trouble, which is why certain parts of the media are now trying, as a form of “look over there” deflection, to concoct a narrative around Hipkins…nobody’s buying it!!
This is what will bring this wretched coalition govt to its knees:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsSJdH6wdzU
Thanks for posting that Phil….that was an excellent well put together documentary which provides a definitive weather vane that gives a strong indication as to where the looming ill winds of the future are going to blow from.
COC Baldrick Luxton, Merkat Seymore and Winston Muldoon are starting to look a bit shakey and fragile IMHO.
The Fight Clubs contests written of here, may not have been abuse if the spirit in which they held was right and considered rules followed. The contenders needed to have training and practice. It would give them something to take an interest in and they would be more likely to be action-oriented than education-sitting at a desk oriented.
In the 1800s males of all levels of society used to enjoy boxing contests arranged or sometimes informal, called ‘mills’ and referred to in Heyer’s well-researched novels of the ‘Regency period’ surrounding 1810-1820.
Was boxing a gentleman’s sport in the early Victorian era? Quora
https://www.quora.com › Was-boxing-a-gentlemans-sp…
The reason why boxing was called the gentleman’s sport is because it had rules and was thus in a sense, “civilized”….
and
https://guildhalllibrarynewsletter.wordpress.com/2014/02/17/18th-and-19th-century-fight-club-the-beginnings-of-british-boxing/
prizefighting
Through the late nineteenth century, the martial art of boxing or prizefighting was primarily a sport of dubious legitimacy. Outlawed in England and much of the United States, prizefights were often held at gambling venues and broken up by police.
Boxing – Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Boxing
Boxing in Georgian Surrey: A Heroic Scene
Exploring Surrey’s Past
https://www.exploringsurreyspast.org.uk › sports › boxi…
Boxing in the 18th and early 19th century drew huge crowds known as ‘The Fancy’, a varied group of moneyed backers, supporters from around the country, ..
Dublin Boxing in the late 18th and early 19th centuries … The Irish Story
https://www.theirishstory.com › 2020/09/25 › scrappin…
25 Sept 2020 — Boxing was illegal from 1750. Its supporters ‘the fancy’ could either refrain from this form of sport or band together in support of alternative and
Benedict Collins is by far the best reporter in NZ .He is not phased by the skin head and is prepared to ask the question untill he gets a real answer ,or in the case of the skin head ,he explodes .
If the rest of the soft cocks had his stamina we as a country would be getting the real story more often .
Sometimes I think Dom is a bit of a prat but you have to admire his tenacity .He is much like a fox terrier looking for rats in the back yard .
This is the same idiot who is allocating police officers that he does not have .He thinks i he says we will allocate 50 here or there they will just turn up like magic .
When will the fuckwit voters wake up that they voted for three lemons.