It’s very clear from the puff piece interview Harris gave with Walz on CNN that America will continue to enable Israel’s illegal ethnic cleaning war crime if she is elected President.
It is obvious now that Netanyahu needs to aggressively keep expanding the conflict and I believe he wants to totally cleanse Gaza and has now started a new front of attack in the Occupied West Bank.
The fact that Israeli’s are prepared to protect their own soldiers accused of sexually assaulting Palestinians as part of psychological torture is as close to evil as I think you can get.
I think Democrat acquiescence to the Israeli lobby could cost them the election.
The righteous fury of many activists at the Democratic enabling of Israel’s war crime will see votes bleed to 3rd party candidates Jill Stein and Cornel West in critical battleground races and could well cost Harris a narrow loss.
The irony of that is Trump will be far worse.
Remember it was Trump who started this entire round of violence.
He made Jerusalem the capital because evangelical Christians believe that ion they fund and return Israel to its original borders that will trigger Armageddon.
I’m not joking.
To appease these evangelical nutters, Trump made Jerusalem the capital and that in turn sparked a new uprising by Palestinians which in turn saw Zionist extremists elected to Parliament who then in turn started trying to over turn the Judiciary rulings against their illegal settlements.
This in turn triggered Hamas for the October 7th attacks.
I fear there is no return now and that full blown war is inevitable.
I don’t even know how to say this – Israeli TV celebrates soldier accused of rape???
The shocking CCTV footage of an Israeli torture prison where Palestinian children were forced face down on the ground while a heavily armed and shield protected gang of Israeli troops dragged one of the Palestinian children to the corner of the yard and raped him.
They did it to psychologically torture the other children.
One of the soldiers who did that was on Israeli TV again being defended.
I just don’t know how that isn’t evil.
We have all seen the true nature of Israel in this obscene war, I don’t think we can ever not unsee it.
A terrible reckoning is building from this evil.
Martyn – The USA has far bigger problems than the current Hamas – Israel War…I have called for serious jail time for those Soldiers involved in the rape in a previous post…
Nathan, your an apologist for the rapist IDF of children any of your comments pertaining to apartheid Israel is null & void stick to knitting dude
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Stephe – Mask slipping again?
I try to ignore you @ nat but fuck, you’re insipid and softly vile.
Your meandering post-sugar-diet brain-farts are as coldly ominous as a pot smoking firing squad. Please. Just fuck off.
” I have called for serious jail time for those Soldiers involved in the rape in a previous post…” Well that sorts it then. ( Eye roll.) Who ever you are you should be that but somewhere else. Anywhere else.
Killer white T-Cell: No, I will not just f##k off…Hamas needs to be held to account for their crimes against both Gazans and Israelis.
Nathan your IDF idols formerly designated jewish terrorist groups Haganah, Stern gang, have been raping Palestinians even before they took ova, ever heard of the “Deir Yassin Massacre April 9, 1948?” or what about the “Sabra and Shatila massacre was the 16–18 September 1982” killing of between 1,300 and 3,500 civilians—mostly Palestinians and Lebanese Shias? The palestinian kids they arrest illegally under international law have reported being sexually abused whilst in custody is this what you venerate? Get a grip man this is horrendous shit!
stephen: Correct, it is nasty, horrible, and brutal…that is the nature of war. This is why I have been calling for Peace…But, Hamas keeps rejecting the numerous Peace accords…why?
You’re right in that Trump started this current conflict but not my the mechanism you suggested.
If you recall it was Trump who brokered the ground breaking Abraham Accord which opened up relations between Israel and a list of Sunni states. Leading up to this current conflict there was word that Saudi Arabia was already in negotiations to join up. The effect of this would be to unite both Israel and most of the Muslin world against Iran. A very difficult situation for Iran, so they had their surrogates attack Israel in a desperate attempt to stir up sentiment in the Arab streets. It hasn’t worked and if Trump wins in November progress will continue.
You include a wider lens that is absolutely legitimate and correct.
The Abraham Accord isolated the Palestinians so that no one cared about what happened to them, once Hamas realised they had been left out in the cold, they decided to force the issue to gain their freedom from occupation and blockade.
The Abraham Accords were too clever for their own good, by ignoring Palestinian aspiration, by legitimising their occupation, they had no where left to go.
Fair enough but when you say “Palestinian People” you’re talking about a people that are ruled by thugs in the pay of Iran and who have been subjected to generations of intensive propaganda in order to radicalise them. Meanwhile in Israel proper there are over a million Arabs who are citizens, vote and are perfectly happy living in a Jewish Democracy, because they know what the alternative looks like.
Nobody in the Muslim world wants Palestinians and they’ve been expelled from everywhere they lived. Sadly they are beyond redemption.
Andrew, the Abrams accord was also to legitimises the greater Israel project. The Golan Heights, Westbank, including Jerusalem are illegally occupied by the apartheid state. To give you historic context in the name “Jerusalem” isn’t a hebrew word but an ancient dialect of the Canaanites the ancestor of the indigenous palestinians.
Also the Abrams accord wasn’t the only reason for the Oct 7 attack. Hamas named their operation on Oct 7 “Al Aqsa Flood” that important to recognize because this mosque is one of muslims most holiest shrines outside Mecca, and under threat as we speak to being destroyed by settlers using messianic BS to justify their illegal immoral actions.
“Third Temple” can only be constructed after the coming of the awaited Messiah to usher in the “Kingdom of God” These nutters are sick fucks and notwithstanding that Hamas rightfully is fighting against an occupying military apartheid state which is sanctioned under international law. Israel is fucked even if it miraculously survives its economy is imploding there are 100,000s+ settlers left the country to their ancestral lands never to return.
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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/4/9/what-do-texan-red-heifers-have-to-do-with-al-aqsa-and-a-jewish-temple
Martyn ; it won’t (cost her the election). This is the US we are talking about where the history of supporting Israel is decades old and delicate with the highest Jewish population outside of Israel. Gaza is ghastly, no doubt and so is any warmongering on either side. Far more likely to cost her the election are the billionaires and Trump nutters, who are a much more present danger. Voltaire said : “never let the perfect be the enemy of the good:” Good things like women’s reproductive rights, worker’s rights, billionaire oligarchs losing more power and influence. If you think Gaza is just about the Democrats take a closer look, and also take a closer look at the other countries who redrew the map after WW1.
Comrade
I hope to sweet Christ you are right because Trump is a fucking Orange Nazi who will plunge the planet into mayhem.
My fear however is that 3rd party candidates like Jill Stein and Cornell West will syphon off vote from Democrats in critical battle ground states.
Remember, Hillary lost against Trump in large part to 3rd party candidates taking away votes from her in crucial battleground states, and we have a far larger issue here now with Palestine for those activists and they have better 3rd Party candidates – this is why it was such a big deal when Kennedy Jr endorsed Trump – he was polling 5%!
Kennedy had an independent platform except on Israel. His father was assasinated by a palestinian which may be explains why.
On what basis do you think Trump is an ‘orange nazi’? Because we have his previous 4 years as president when there were no wars, low inflation and record low unemployment, especially for minorities.
Or perhaps what could cost her the election is that she’s absolutely useless? She didn’t even make it to the first ballot for the democratic nomination she was that terrible. Yet, he she is, a step away from being President?
The whole Democratic Party is a have, and yes the Republicans aren’t much better but at least there’s some semblance of democratic control, rather than elitist control. Do we even know how she got there? The Obamas? The Clintons? Pelosi? What we do know is that the party foot soldiers didn’t, but of course now they’re all rallying around her.
Trump is terrible, I get that. But Kamala? God help us.
” The whole Democratic Party is a have, and yes the Republicans aren’t much better but at least there’s some semblance of democratic control, rather than elitist control ”
Elitist control !
Work out the difference between the two and try again.
…billionaire oligarchs losing more power and influence.. Jesus Christ! Have you seen how many billionaires support the Democrats? Way more than the GOP, hence the mismatch in fund-raising.
The USA nearly always give Presidents 2 terms each its just a historical cycle.
So Hillary lost to Trump because it was the Republicans “turn” to have their President.
Also Hillary was old and did not look good in photos and American media do not ltolerate old women.
Kamala is 59, ten years younger than when Hillary ran for President and is “acceptable ” .
Men on the other hand can be a hundred years old (Trump and Biden” ) walking/shuffling corpses
and ugly as F### and still win office.
Same in NZ Winston Peters is 80 and looks 95 in real life.
When was the last 80 year old woman MP?
Clinton was war mongering whore. Trump was an attempt to break the corrupt swamp. I didn’t say he succeeded but many voters gave him a chance.
They betray everyone because its a political system that only serves various moneyed interests. Once upon a time they did offer crumbs to the voters, but now, now its just touchy-feely, b/s words that they serve up to the people. And this is all ably backed up by their equally fraudulent mainstream media. As such, they are a problem for the entire world and not just Palestinians and fellow Americans. The US is too powerful to ignore, but our Govt and our media doesn’t have to accommodate their interests as devoutly as they do.
The United States and many other countries will never support Hamas.
The scary thing is that given the atrocious crimes the israelis are committing against Palestinians is that it shows just how far the israeli disease has spread throughout the world. It must be a terrible thing for Jews to see the israelis committing such abhorrent crimes, largely for the fun of it, while all we can do is stand back and wring our hands and tut-tut because OUR leadership and political management won’t go near it with a barge pole for fear of losing their kick-backs. The IDF must be a seriously fertile cash cow to the U$A military industrial complex. There is a documentary out there made by Al Jazeera of a military hardware symposium held in israel. The documentary highlighted the enormous amount of money to be made by developing and manufacturing high-tech weaponry then trialed and tested on Palestinian people.
I think there’s mention of it in here somewhere.
Al Jazeera.
Ten films to watch about the history of the Israel-Palestine conflict
From the 1948 Arab-Israeli War to the Israeli surveillance of Palestinians, films to help you understand the Israel-Palestine conflict.
https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2023/10/16/ten-films-to-watch-about-the-history-of-the-israel-palestine-conflict
Bro a good read is the “The Fall of the Ottomans: The Great War in the Middle East: Eugene Rogan” Eugene is top class historian writer he puts things into perspective.
https://www.penguin.co.nz/books/the-fall-of-the-ottomans-9780141999074
America’s biggest structural problem is that it isn’t run by Americans in the interests of Americans. This is why when someone like Trump comes along in 2016 with the slogan “America First” those in the corridors of power start to get nervous. But Trump in 2024 is getting, for instance, $100 million from Jewish billionaire Miriam Adelson, which is one of the reasons he isn’t putting America first anymore. Israel will probably get the West Bank and Gaza, and maybe a war with Israel’s competitor Iran, but American’s wont get shit. I’d imagine a Harris presidency will see much the same trajectory.
You can look at the very obvious and open influence in US politics of Jewish political organisations like the AIPAC, the AJC, the ADL; you can visit opensecrets.com and see who the largest donors to both parties are now and have been in past election cycles; and you can look at how pro-Zionist Jewish US billionaires use all of their financial, media and political clout to get US college professors fired when they are insufficiently beholden to Israeli’s interests and allow pro-Palestinian sentiments to get air (i.e. “antisemitic”); but probably the single biggest item of evidence that the Jewish/Israeli Lobby runs US politics is the otherwise inexplicable and bizarre bipartisan commitment to do whatever Israel (“America’s greatest ally” apparently) wants, including giving them billions of dollars in “aid” (about 300 billion USD since 1948) and fighting their wars for them, despite their being no genuine US interest in fighting wars in the Middle East.
While this post is narrowly focused on the USA support for Israel across party lines, it fails to even bring up the important question. In the face of Israeli occupation of Gaza, and imminent total occupation of the West Bank, what is the future for Palestinians? Who will speak up for them, when it’s clear the UN has failed, the ICJ might bring action against individuals, but the State of Israel remains aloof?
What happens in two/five/ten years time when Israel declares new borders and states the Palestinians are an “internal security problem” for them to solve, and will brook no outside interference?
This looks increasingly the most likely outcome. Will the scattered and disparate Palestinian groups put aside their differences and work together? I doubt it. They can’t do that now when they have some land and legitimacy, they certainly won’t when they have neither, as is likely in a few years time.
Short of outside intervention from Syria, Iran or the Saudis, I can’t see the scenario I’ve outlined being stopped. If any of those countries tries intervention, that could start WWIII. That doomsday scenario is just what the fundamentalists want. A nuclear holocaust with two thirds of the human species wiped out. Well that would solve the climate change problem.
Or maybe I’m being too cynical.
Judging by the chants in Chicago you Lefties are in a real pickle: “Killer Kamala you can’t hide, we charge you with genocide!”
They did it to psychologically torture the other children.
One of the soldiers who did that was on Israeli TV again being defended.
I just don’t know how that isn’t evil.
We have all seen the true nature of Israel in this obscene war, I don’t think we can ever not unsee it.
A terrible reckoning is building from this evil.
Bomber I believe the time has come where Israel can no longer justify its existence as a Jewish homeland created after the horrors of the holocaust and continue to court sympathy of their right to exist when they are engaged in the same annihilation tactics employed by the NAZI’s against their race and have American and most western countries authority to apply the same treatment to a people who have been deliberately bombed , starved , their children tortured and raped and subjected to disease , starvation and the destruction of their homes and parents and wider families , imprisoned , denied the freedom of movement in what was once their territory before it was forcibly taken and still is by marauding Zionist killers backed by countries like our own.
Harris and Walz are no better than Trump in their ” subtle ” justification of a whole race of people who are pawns in a battle for supremacy over territory , political ideology , control and oil.
Is so funny…
Is this what you get when one lot of fascists persecute another lot of fascists and the third lot of fascists begin in-fighting because they feel as though they’re being left out of the bloodbath.
What if the jews are fascist but can now carry the badge of persecution given them by the fascist germans etc? And now! We have an israeli state wailing on about suppression and persecution so that gives them a pass port to persecuting the Palestinians who are merely close to the action while herding their lovely goats. Meanwhile, the dumb greedy fucking yanks are all brash and boo yeah but feel left out because no one understands them. No fucking wonder. A sudden and inexplicable bout of amnesia is called for in my opinion.
How about we contact those people who get a blow to the head then when they come to they can speak French? We should give then a ring.
Well said. Israel is morally over. If things were different every army in the world would stop this holocaust. As it is we lose every idea of international morality for these cunts.
If I was a Yank, which being Scots is not far away, I wouldn’t vote for Harris. Not a choice, just a recognition — of plutocracy, genocidal plutocracy.
Reich and Sanders are working overtime to deliver the votes for Harris. I say to them how would you like it if we knew about the Holocaust and decided to put it second to present politics? They’re old men and they want to come to the promised land no matter what. I say you, like Moses, must stay in the Sinai till the truth is attained.
This all describes the desperation of Labour in’35, why they ultimately left us to the terrible gentleness of the rich once again.Not g.granddad, 70 in ’35, who was a fighting machine — why he got no reward. Don’t give a richie-rich a second chance. 6 years between the death of the old Welfare State and the recognition of climate change, and what the fuck, the short-term rich preferred their short term profits? Who would’ve known ?