Can we go back to this please?
PM Christopher Luxon’s second fumble on benefit numbers
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- The prime minister has mixed up his numbers in a TV interview about the government’s welfare changes
- It marks the second misstep this week after Luxon was earlier unable to say how much a Jobseeker benefit was
- Labour says it proves the prime minister is “removed from the reality” of those in poverty
Ummm, using the new Traffic Warning system for beneficiaries, isn’t this an orange warning for Luxon’s second lie?
Actually, it’s more than 2 lies now…
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…so he’s lied 4 times, shouldn’t he have some sanction on his benefit now?
How can Luxon get away with bare faced lies and not get challenged on it?
Could anyone imagine if Jacinda had lied like this 4 times in a row?
So when the Prime Minister lies it doesn’t matter?
Credit where it’s due – all politicians lie. By both commission and omission. We expect it.
Some lies are better than others, some liars are better than others. Practicing politicians know which is which.
And some lies, people want to believe, so they become “truth”.
Is it a lie if Luxie has a caveat of mental reservations said in his head that he adds silently after his lie is uttered ?
For example like a Bill Clinton type
* I have never cheated on my wife (except last Thursday)
* Health outcomes are not worse under my watch ( except on the days after my election )
* I do not get my numbers wrong ( I just bluff from lack of study for any maths test )
* I am helping NZers overcome our cost of living crisis ( except for bus fares, rising food and electricity prices , congestion charges and gathering taxes through higher rates )
* I am funding mental health and stress problems ( except for 11th August with banks causing it )
* There would only be one tobacco outlet in Northland selling under Labour policy thus increasing retail crime and ram raids ( if media didn’t poke their noses in and report an 18% MORE retail theft & burglaries in only the last 6 months )
* I do not tell lies ( except on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday )
We used to expect it, we really did, but come Covid – we believe – we believe – and this has not changed. We believe, we believe, we really do………………………………………………….believe
I don’t feel politicians lying is credible, it’s dishonest and shouldn’t be an acceptable practice or admired.
He is a politician, lying is what they do.
He’s an idiot completely unsuited to be leading a country. Although I’m sure Bob the Fisted who conflates wealth with competency will think otherwise.
Are you concerned about the country and its politicians? Or is the reason for writing in to take a swipe at a fellow commenter who might be a dozy algorithm for all we know?
I don’t want to bother thinking and writing here if this is a place for indulging in trite remarks with trite people responding; sort of fable tennis! I need to be informed and hopefully heartened, when reading here. Childish games with Bob1st and his ilk make me feel ill; is it possible for us not to be weak-minded, and ignore him and all who sail in him! (The Crimson Permanent Assurance galleon.)
Signboard announcing important message that was on display in London every day when I was there in the ’70s : ‘Repent the End is Nigh’. Well it bloody is really near so all, will you resist being petty and concentrate on what we do now that is practical and achievable?
And bringing in a health commissioner to control wasteful spending when the evidence is opposite, the health budget is once again being underfunded by National in it’s budgets to pay for the ill conceived tax cuts. This Government goes from corrosive to horrendous. Watch the body count mount up…
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/health-nz-cant-cut-14-billion-without-eating-into-front-line-analysis/5XDNEU2XJBGDFKHUDKWXIL7UCE/
NZ’s most inept Prime Minister in its history.
A buffoon, so weak and stupid, one wonders why he was Key’s chosen one.
If he’s gNationals best, then just how bad are the rest?
Your biggest lie is your first, after that does it matter?
BTW I thought you were a political tragic, how can that be if you’re surprised to hear a politician lie?
Remember the ‘if you get the vaccine, you may still get sick but you will not die’ lie?
remember you are still alive because 95% got the vaccine swampy
How can “Maori” be a threat to the “elite”? Majority maori are impoverished who hold no political sway domestically are easy targets for police brutality and racism but somehow Maori need to be brought down a peg!?
Don’t stress; from day to day they change the social group they pick on to suit the narrative. That old switcheroo political tactic of swapping around victims to make them the villians. Terrible bludgers like people who breed and have kids, Immigrants, youth, gay , disabled, teachers , union members, public servants, journalists, charity workers, parents with kids sick at home, hungry kids, scientists, dead kids in Palestine, men , women, councils, sacked workers to aid cost cuts, people on Witless’ social media because she’s forced to be there…
Most of the other millions in the population except landlords will all become demons that Trump and Luxon call basement dwellers and bottom feeders when NATZI policy is failing and there’s reckoning to be had.
When faced with accountability NATZIs deflect blame …. quick look over there , those feckin squirrels
They are pumping away all the water and now they are going to roll up the beaches .Shit they might even get an acre of land back .Cant have that can we
This chap Luxon appears to be a little economical with the truth.
It’s called cost cutting, and Nicola approves!
He won’t have sanctions applied because as he said “I’m entitled”
His constant cock ups are a sure sign of incompetence and typical of a CEO who in the business world has underlings that create the figures for him to spout at a fixed time and place meeting in the board room .On the spot spouting in front of a free range crowd is totally different so he has not done the required research him self so is completely out of his depth which in his case is very very shallow .
Exactly right although you might note his free range crowds are becoming more scarce. Most of his crowds are obviously becoming more hand picked and user friendly.
Even his post cabinet pressers are becoming less frequent and less intense
pommy Bob the fisted … Low class dregs like him (and gaby) should be deported back to little shitty Britain
Tory poms like telling lies ( or endorsing some-one of their type like luxery luxon when he does ) ,,, and then like Peter Plumley Walker they visit their Dominatrix and go ‘spank me,, I’ve been a very naughty boy’ …
…. It could be Luxery Luxon also visits one when he’s been telling lies and bearing false witness ,,, except his is ‘Prosperity Penance’, administered by a Dominatrix dressed as a nun in fishnets..,,,,,
‘slap my slap head with a hardbound Bible sister mistress,,, God knows I deserve it’
…. that could be how his dishonesty is slapped away
gordon walker when it comes to the affairs of business and government you are clueless.
whatever dick fuck .I have not seen you post one decent comment just right wing bullshit and clueless lies .No doubt you will spend the evening bending over Luxons desk while he fumbles with his small dick
I don’t feel politicians lying is credible, it’s dishonest and shouldn’t be an acceptable practice or admired.
” Labour says it proves the prime minister is “removed from the reality” of those in poverty ”
As are they and every other party in parliament with limited exception to the Greens but that depends who you are talking to and TPM.
Nothing Hipkins or LINO have to say about life’s reality of what living as an impoverished New Zealander is actually like because they are insulated against the worst ravages of the economic system the ruthlessly followed in government for six years by their salaries and housing portfolios.
As for Luxon lying and getting away with it, he has had training from the master manipulator himself John Philip Key on how to lie and how the MSM have your back.
The people who voted for this coalition certainly are kept awake at night by the lies Luxon says. They were dishonest during the campaign leading up to the general election last year and voted for them anyway and recent polling shows that the more he proves to be dishonest and gets away with it the more popular they become.
That was the shysters M.O for 8 years and he won three elections despite Hagar’s revelations.
” Labour says it proves the prime minister is “removed from the reality” of those in poverty ”
As are they and every other party in parliament with limited exception to the Greens but that depends on who you are talking to and TPM.
Nothing Hipkins or LINO have to say about life’s reality of what living as an impoverished New Zealander is like because they are insulated against the worst ravages of the economic system they ruthlessly followed in government for six years by their salaries and housing portfolios.
As for Luxon lying and getting away with it, he has had training from the master manipulator himself John Philip Key on how to lie and how the MSM have your back.
The people who voted for this coalition certainly are not kept awake at night by the lies Luxon says. They were dishonest during the campaign leading up to the general election last year and voted for them anyway and recent polling shows that the more he proves to be dishonest and gets away with it the more popular they become.
That was the shysters M.O for 8 years and he won three elections despite Hagar’s revelations.
This guy Luxon actually makes Sir John Key appear intelligent IMHO.
He’s a polished turd that is starting to reek
You are very generous