ACT Party tells former National MP to burn Treaty for pharmaceutical industry

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Minister David Seymour claims Pharmac ‘burned energy’ considering Treaty as he sets expectations

Pharmac Minister David Seymour claims the drug-buying agency “burned a lot of energy” considering the Treaty of Waitangi as he directs Pharmac to refrain from doing so.

It is one of several directives in his letter of expectations given to Pharmac in May that includes improving public trust and increasing consultation with patients and advocacy groups.

Seymour, who as Act Party leader has long campaigned for decreasing the Treaty’s application in Government, said the agency had “burned a lot of energy” on considering the Treaty as part of its work and inferred paying staff to do so was a waste of money as it wasn’t directly tied to Pharmac’s core role to purchase drugs and technologies.

“I do not believe this is an appropriate expectation to place on Pharmac,” Seymour said in his letter.

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Let me get this completely straight.

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…is telling a Former National Party stooge Paula Bennett who has been appointed to Pharmac to tear up the Treaty to ensure white people get more medical money while ignoring the enormous institutional racism that impacts a Treaty partner.

When people attack The Māori Party rhetoric as violent, this is the actual practise of structural racism they are protesting against and calling out.

This is simply spite as public health.

80 COMMENTS

  1. David Seymour is doing this because he is a complete wanker, and gives you all this sanctimonious crap about equality. He made the most ridiculous comment the other day about Maori having better health outcomes than they did in 1840. What a dick! Yes David we have fire and the wheel now too.

    That said I don’t see how this benefits the pharma industry at all. If anything it would probably make special authority criteria more restrictive for a certain segment of the population than it is now. That’s less sales not more, if there is in fact any impact.

  2. Ok, so what value does having the ‘Treaty of Waitangi’ embedded into a govt agency whose sole purpose is to bulk fund pharmaceuticals for New Zealanders have? Or for that matter any govt agency?

    I’ll wait

  3. It may be the Treaty’s dubious fourth Catholic clause which Pharmac is advised to ignore. Ill health does not select its subjects based on ethnic or religious grounds, and nor should Pharmac discriminate in this way.

    • While you are technically correct regarding ill health if the ethnic or religious group has common lifestyle issues that are unhealthy then they will suffer for it. While most people know how to look after our physical possessions they fail to understand that our body is just a complicated biological machine & that it needs the same amount of care to ensure a long healthy life.
      I can understand people who are sick wanting a medicine that will fix them although I wish that they put the same amount of effort into their health from the start. Obviously, not all disease is self-inflicted so we need a decent public health system to serve the population however if we can reduce lifestyle disease through education that will improve the health system for those that need it.

      • I hope you’re not suggesting that obese people and smokers and poorly- nourished eaters should be subjected to a separate pharmaceutical regime when the treatment of health issues is based upon medical science, and physiological processes which, by and large are common to the human species. Nor does everybody have the nutritional knowledge, or the money, to eat wisely.

  4. David is being a wanker again the racist prick .Paula benefit should raise her index finger and tell him to rotate on it .She is in charge and he should but out and let her get on with the job .THE fucken weasel always has to put a racist spin on everything and has not presented any evidence that maori or any other race are getting preferential drug buying treatment .I am not aware of any drugs that only treat brown or white people .To imply so is just to push his racist anti Maori program along the same lines as the IDF .hE MAY WELL IN TIME FIND HIMSELF WITH A MISSING EAR LIKE ANOTHER RACIST LOON

    • “Paula benefit should raise her index finger and tell him to rotate on it”
      The authoritarian ‘right’ LOVE their index fingers. I don’t know what they’d do without them. They use them to lecture mere plebians continuously. They’ve ALL done it from Bannons to Trumps to EeeeOre Seymoure – even to pathetic little Chours and Brookie wooks at a VOYCE korero.
      Dirk Quiggles son is of particular interest, especially as it relates to name suppression, and Seymour really isn’t the full 100W bulb
      And as they do so, they’re so ‘self-aware’ that their farts and other offerings from the nether regions are considerably, CONSIDERABLY more redolent than yours @ Gordon (even if AFTER they’ve had a bad curry).

      At the moment, I’m sorry I can’t ‘follow’ TDB. I’m busy waiting for a Dirk Quiggles and one or two other muppets to expire and get l;earnings as to where their supposed resting places might be so I can arrange an appropriate send off.
      Hopefully I’ll make it to be able to piss on whatever remains of them

    • “hE MAY WELL IN TIME FIND HIMSELF WITH A MISSING EAR LIKE ANOTHER RACIST LOON
      ”
      Steady on there pilgrim. Next thing you know they/it’ll be claiming to be victims.
      I’ve always felt it therapeutic to be able to piss on one or two graves. My victims should probably have opted to have been burnt to a crisp. But even then I’ve been able to spray and walk away. There are a few that need the succour of my excrement. ‘Victims’ – all of them.

      But I agree – there are quite a few smelly farts lingering around the motu these days, especially in the political and public service, corporate clsses.

    • Notice how the left threaten violence when they don’t like the policies of the right, but the right in NZ didn’t when Labour brought in all their divisive racial and gender bullshit.
      It’s telling.

    • Wordon Galker
      There nothing racist about Seymour. Not a bone in his body. He’s just instructed Pharmac NOT to consider race. What more to do want? Sure you aren’t the racist pig here?

    • Sounds like troll, bob and nathan have all had their wanker pill this morning. It’s all about fairness and we have done enough research in Aotearoa to show that inequalities exist in the delivery of health services this includes getting a referral, seeing a specialist, getting the best medications available, being diagnosed in a timely manner and having an operation to name a few. We are treaty partners, but one partner gets more and has much more power and authority and still advocates for a one size fits all.

  6. Expected, blame Labour for shoe horning the treaty into everything and everywhere regardless if it made sense or served a worthwhile purpose. The current backlash is entirely predictable and contrary to our hosts ranting it is popular that there is a correction going on.

    • If you truly want correction just a name, give our land back and get rid those unfair racist and discriminative perpetual leases and seemore needs to stop talking with a forked tongue about the fairness of private landowners when our land has been confiscated and stolen by the colonisers.

      • covid is pa I wonder if this sort of hyperbole from people like you, and Tamatha Paul, is why my five year old granddaughter is bullied at school by children bigger and browner than her.

        • yep and the rise in racisim is why my 5 year old brown grandson was concused by a ferral white kid in his first month at school .The white kid is the way he is because his white mum kicks the shit out of him to the extent he had to be helecoptered to hospital .So now he thinks thats how we all should behave .Its NOT ONLY BROWN PEOPLE ABUSING THEIR KIDS OR OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS

        • Yes, I know how your 5-year-old feels I get bullied to by men who happen to be white mostly ignorant Pakeha New Zealanders, but they don’t do it when my big brown partners around (who is not Maori) I wonder why, they only do it when I am by myself it says something about them, they are cowards.

  7. Can you imagine the amount of Treaty based navel gazing that goes on in the Capital?

    It would be hilarious if I wasn’t paying for it.

  9. Sounds like troll, bob and nathan have all had their wanker pill this morning. It’s all about fairness and we have done enough research in Aotearoa to show that inequalities exist in the delivery of health services this includes getting a referral, seeing a specialist, getting the best medications available, being diagnosed in a timely manner and having an operation to name a few. We are treaty partners, but one partner gets more and has much more power and authority and still advocates for a one size fits all. The treaty is the founding document of this country it enabled bob, nathan and te troll to come here and live.

  10. Sounds like troll, bob and nathan have all had their wanker pill this morning. It’s all about fairness and we have done enough research in Aotearoa to show that inequalities exist in the delivery of health services this includes getting a referral, seeing a specialist, getting the best medications available, being diagnosed in a timely manner and having an operation to name a few. We are treaty partners, but one partner gets more and has much more power and authority and still advocates for a one size fits all. The treaty is the founding document of this country it enabled bob, nathan and te troll to come here and live.

    • Of those which is Pharmacs’ responsibility – funding medicines – how in any way is there a racial component?

      And yes, we absolutely SHOULD have one size that fits all on all of those points: timely and effective care. Currently NO-ONE has that except perhaps those who can afford to go private. Instead of working on that for everyone we get nothing for anyone + racism.

      Let’s be clear: the only possible inequality in healthcare is class. And of the various components of the health system Pharmac is probably the single largest class leveller: everyone gets drugs they wouldn’t otherwise afford.

      If you want to argue transport/locations, that isn’t a Pharmac issue.

      If you want to argue cultural competency of front line staff, that isn’t a Pharmac issue.

      If you want to argue differing levels of poverty, that isn’t a Pharmac issue.

      So what, specifically, do you think The Treaty could help Pharmac acheive in terms of fairness or equality? A single example would be nice.

      AND, what are the costs of doing so? In time, money, and lives (from e.g. delayed decisions).

      Simply telling me that you’re distracted by identity politics doesn’t make any useful argument.

      • Just some troll. Well said. Unfortunately the Treaty has been weaponised and inserted into scenarios where it is not relevant.

  11. There’s this strange place that *seymour exists within. It’s called Logical Fallacy Land and seymour lives and breaths there. His core objective is to vaporise the Treaty. Once the Treaty’s gone, we’re gone. We’ll lose the legitimacy of the ownership of our AO/NZ before the Treaty’s ashes cool. As an economy, as a people/s as a world power we’re all but irrelevant but as a land mass 29 K sq km larger than the UK with a fantastical climate and are geographically safely distanced from other seymours i.e. narcissistic psychopaths but with bigger guns. It would be naive in the extreme to think for a minute that no one’s watching us while drooling with greedy malevolence. If there’s one thing that SHOULD unite Maori and non Maori it must be to protect the treaty and anyone thinking we’d be better off without it somehow would either be stupid in the extreme or a politician.
    * Sleazy seymour isn’t the only one who would think like seymour does. His oily lineage goes back to 1936, to the dawn of national’s nest of rats who’s expertise was, and still is, to exploit the ignorance they sell to our primary industry, being agriculture, and a clue as to their skill as manipulators can be seen in our farmers who lie down and worship at their abusers feet while begging to be beaten down then further exploited.
    I don’t care about pharmac and the colossal cluster fuck it is. I mean, Paula Bennett ? Really? Headstone Head?
    The bennie bashing hypocrite with the pine tree stump calves. She eats babies on a stick at barbi’s. Another narcissistic psychopath on a good wicket double-bubbling as the Dark Mistress of every beneficiaries nightmares in waiting. To get an idea of where the threesome of no one’s fantasies are leading us check out this on RNZ this morning.
    “NZ First Minister Casey Costello orders 50% cut to excise tax on heated tobacco products”
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/in-depth/522429/nz-first-minister-casey-costello-orders-50-percent-cut-to-excise-tax-on-heated-tobacco-products
    Not, an increase to public health spending to help those already addicted or are dying from the use of ‘heated tobacco products.’ Natzo , ACT and NZ first are the same thing and no matter what they sell, they’re still all the same thing and the reason you don’t hear even a squeak from Black Eyes The Chipster is because he and roger’s Neo-Labour’s in there too. Floating about in the swill like roger douglas’s fantasy-pigs.

  12. Pulla benefat won’t raise anything she does not want to bite the hand that feeds her she is also doing a marvelous job of arrrrrse kissing and it’s sickening almost making me want to spew.

  13. I think Seymour is a dick.

    Pharmacs job is to use government power and leverage to be an almost single desk buyer of pharma in the national interest.

    What was going on here?

    Was a bunch of bureacrats hiring a bunch of government consultants to meet and pay a bunch of maori consultants to negotiate mission statements? So, wasting money way better spent on drugs.

    Or was Pharmac going to use The Treaty and the indigenous peoples angle to bolster its negotiating position to achieve lower purchase costs and make more drugs available for all kiwis?

  14. Yes, nahana but we managed to sail here without a compass I don’t think we are that fucken dumb or stupid.

    • Ok so it’s blood quotas now is it?? just like Moumou toto Hana Maipi Clarke… sigh

  17. I would hazard an educated guess that a lot of the health disparities would not be affected at the Pharmac level of intervention. If there is evidence that it would be, provide this evidence.

    Pharmac, hospitals, etc are the ambulance at the bottom of the cliff.

    Most health disparities can likely be attributed to what happens before the intervention of the health system is required.

  18. If you truly want correction just a name, give our land back and get rid those unfair racist and discriminative perpetual leases and seemore needs to stop talking with a forked tongue about the fairness of private landowners when our land has been confiscated and stolen by the colonisers.

    • I can agree with you on the rents which are tilted in favor of the person renting but that injustice should not mean pharmac need to spend time and money buying drugs to help all NZ people .

  19. Shouldn’t it be “wharmac” after the original pre colonial Maori bulk buying wharmaceutical organization?

  20. If David wants to negotiate a new treaty I will happily represent Maori.
    First, we will go back to 1840
    Second, all land that was bought or stolen from Maori after 1840 must be returned to the decendents of those Maori owners .
    3rd ,All ferral animals ,goats rats cats rabbits ferrets stoats pigs and the like must be removed from NZ by 2025 .
    All non native plants must be removed by the same date .Gorse blackberry ragwort all thistle etc must be gone .
    Then all non maori decendants of european and other nations born after 1840 shall return to their own country of origin.
    Then we will sit down and negotiate a new treaty with the decendants of the remaining people .

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