David Seymour has accused the Waitangi Tribunal of political meddling after it made confidential documents about the proposed Treaty Principles legislation public.
The briefings reveal officials told the Government the policy could threaten social cohesion and ACT’s proposed principles were a novel interpretation with the backing of no expert opinion.
Beyond Seymour’s tantrum at being busted for pursuing a race war by trashing the Treaty, are the concerns raised that his pursuit of a race war by trashing then Treaty may well result in a threat to social cohesion.
Likewise this Government’s total acquiescence to donors interests and fast tracking powers to dismantle environmental legislation risks civil disobedience…
According to the democracy watchdog Freedom House, there is a global trend towards democratic decline. The Economist Intelligence Unit estimates less than 8% of the world’s populationlive in a full democracy, while almost 40% live under authoritarian rule.
New Zealand is clearly not in the high-risk group. Compared to others, its political and civil rights are exceptionally good. And its legal system, which safeguards many of those rights, is among the best in the world. Other checks and balances, such as the Ombudsman, are also robust.
Unlike many other countries, however, New Zealand lacks robust safeguards against abuses of power. It is one of only five countries (along with Saudi Arabia, Israel, Canada and the United Kingdom) without a written constitution.
But the Commonwealth cousins within that group both have bicameral (two-chamber) parliaments that can balance a government’s agenda and ambition. New Zealand’s Legislative Council, a weak version of an upper house, was broken up in 1951.
The supposed robustness, integrity and established due process of New Zealand’s legal system is likewise up for scrutiny – in particular, the government’s reliance on executive power and use of urgency to pass legislation.
No MMP government has passed more bills under urgency in its first 100 days than the present coalition, far outstripping previous administrations.
It is not necessarily a bad thing for parliament to have the option to pass laws urgently when circumstances demand it. The problem arises when there is no definition of, or required justification for, the use of urgency.
Instead, it becomes a normalised way to sidestep the mechanisms that help create better laws.
…what National, ACT and NZ First are pursuing here is a casual fascism, Kiwis don’t like putting much effort in because putting in effort makes you a try hard.
Brown Shirts, goose steps and street violence is all a bit too much effort for Kiwis, we like our fascism laid back and beneficial for just the donor class and our personal property portfolio.
This Government is owned by big tobacco, big mining and big money!
We allowed this because the electorate was bitterly furious post Covid that Jacinda had the temerity to save 20 000 lives!
In your blind rage at her saving those lives you elected 3 parties who you had no fucking idea of what they would implement and you are all now shuffling away from admitting you voted National in the first place.
We are a better people than this Government you elected has made us!
The polarised fringes made insane by social media hate algorithms will still support NZF and ACT but it is the middle voter in National who will feel tainted by being associated with these lunatics who will be feeling ready barely 6 months after the election to vote Labour.
It will also send. kick up the bum to those who didn’t vote.
The economy is on the slide, the OCR will go up not down and geopolitical shockwaves are on their way.
Unemployment is predicted to hit 5%.
I think it will hit 6.5%.
National don’t have $60m for first time home buyers but they do have $2.9b for landlords!
This is what we are now, this is who we is.
If this hard right racist climate denying beneficiary bashing Government continue to push for culture war revenge fantasies masquerading as social policy while handing billions to their rich donor mates and real estate pimps while using Māori as a political punching bag, there is going to be one hell of a backlash.
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This is the gamble whoever or whomever is backing the acting PM in dealing with the far’er right parties to govern.
Do enough white New Zealanders give a shit about the abuse of Maori rights and the blatant disrespect shown when dealing with valid, solid grievances that need genuine dialogue with the crown, working towards remediation and unity?
I believe they’ve got the numbers wrong and, despite the doner class money getting them in and buying the loudest voice in the room, the issue unifies, especially with the young, as they also see it as their treaty and rightfully don’t feel okay being defined by something that is obviously unfair, unjust and not fit for purpose.
As an immo, the Maori consensus will always have my vote in a referendum.
” This *Government risks civil unrest to bash Māori and allow crony capitalism ”
No it doesn’t. After 40 years of neo-liberalism AKA fascism this thing we hope is *governance isn’t because we’re not.
We have such an imbedded fascist autocracy now built into our DNA that we must beg to make a squeak then we must pay for the squeak player. We have no unions to speak of, our agrarian primary industry is now a limping mono-economy dependent upon exporting milk powder to people we’re almost certainly going to go to war with any day now. Our gutless, ignorant farmers, our greedy middle classes, our psychopathic rich and our dumb as fuck poor are too inserted up their own arseholes to peer down past their poo-balls to see the monsters standing over us.
@ The Al1en above writes about a strength in Maori that no longer exists. Many others still waffle on about the noble Kiwi who will sharpen its beak but will then stab itself up it’s own arsehole then get vaporised in a puff of kiwi fruit peelings and Pavlova.
Look. We’re fucked. I know it’s not that great a thing to comprehend, but, we’re fucked.
The manipulative ‘merican psycho-riche are about to turn our AO/NZ into a static aircraft carrier armed with, no doubt nuclear missiles and yet here we are, debating the entirely pointless and The Great All-Thinking, All-Knowing, All-I told you so-ing Martyn Bradbury is here too running about wailing about a sky that may be falling on Proxima Centauri b.
While we rabble scrap in the dust our new masters are plotting a course and you @ MB take the piss out of our only and quite powerful ally, The Crown and the commonwealth. What about Baldy Locks as trump instead? peters could be michael cohen and seymour’s definitely a Rudy Giuliani. And that wee kid you’ve labeled as luxon. George, is he? You should leave him out of [it] @ MB. He’s just a wee kid no matter his bloodline. Not cool mate.
What rights do non-Maori have over Maori are you talking about?
And facts not feelz.
One of my Internet acquaintances is from Scandinavia – Sweden I think it’s not worth checking now. But wherever it is, they have the assumption that any government document can be obtained by anyone for any reason whatsoever. If you want to protect a document from public disclosure you have to go to court to do it. That’s more transparency than we’ve ever had I think. What really pisses me off are the ones that hide behind “commercial sensitivity”. That’s just egregious.
I agree surgeon ‘comercial sensitivity’ should only aplly DURING a bidding process…as used in nz it means ‘this is fuckin embarrassing and we don’t want to be exposed’
Just try & find out about the Police “accident” at the Christchurch Hospital Emergency Department on March 15th, if you are interested in seeing how good we are at hiding things.
David Seymour is just bleating because there are documents proving he’s an idiot. Just like the leaks that Costello is a liar.
proved
More than just a document Wheel, it’s an entire script of calculated parts to ” take people where they need to go ” .
That was Seymour’s statement to the Guardian pre election. A Hitler like statement of grand delusions. Villify the victims as part of the ploy but really the goal is to fuck over EVERYONE at the same time while distracting people.
Everyone has seen THAT movie..
We step through from the sepia world of dust bowl landscapes, lured by fantastical election promises.
There’s dazzling colour to mask the hidden nasty surprises and make the mirage that it all seems so liberating and there’s rewards for all.
The enslaved Winkies, and the Munchkins oppressed by the witches of banks, and monopolies and land stealers are all tribes of ALL colours but villified as a political tactic to distract the ignoramuses.
The Jitterbugs and the Winged Monkeys ( aka Chhour, Unkovich, puffed up Porky Jones, Trevor, Bob1, Grant, Hooten, Audrey HDPA, Hosking et al.) as attack dogs of the government if you dare to lift the curtain.
Employed are distracting fields of flowers emitting pseudoephedrine to render voters even more lame brained.
The public are the tin man, the cowardly lion and the scarecrow looking for ANY brain, a heart ( empathy) and even an ounce ( OZ) of courage but are entranced by Dorothy Tricola Willis’ fantasy story while she wears Mia Piaci shoes. So the ignorant trail along still without question.
The Wizard turns out to be a fraud just operating the levers and it’s all been smoke and mirrors.
We don’t actually want to see the man behind the curtain because when we do we ALL know that he can’t make our dreams come true.
We’re not being magically transported anywhere, he’s not a fkn wizard at all. Just a greedy, exploitative , crazy conman keeping capitalism alive.
And when you all turn around to go home after the manufactured hysteria and false mirages with your revelation of being conned, IT’S TOO LATE !
Even the yellow brick road as representing gold has been ripped up; the river is a sludge oozing by under a baking sun. “Home” for the majority has been laid waste all while you were tripping.
Stupid bottom feeding passive suckers !
Seymour is not only an idiot, but a child, and demonstrates on a daily basis all the traits and hallmarks of a narcissistic sociopath.
He’s also naive, and you can tell by the way he peacocks around that he suffers from small man syndrome.
The Atlas Group deliberately targets this personality type. Stupid, deluded, unworldly and lost.
Therefore, it should come as no surprise, that this is exactly the type of person that big money seeks out to use as their conduit for furthering their grip on power and even more money.
And to top it off we have a naive backslapping, head patting, anti-science, god- bothering, anti-abortionist running the country who is way in over his head, and, as is becoming very evident now, despite his self praising self congratulatory manner, couldn’t organise a pissup in a brewery !!
N.Z. is in real trouble here and they need to purge this lot sooner rather than later.The backlash will be significant!!
Labour ,The Greens and the Maori Party need to get along side each other ,find a lot of cohesive commonalities and be ready, not by the next election, but by this time next year.
N.Z. is at a dangerous crossroad.
Given what we have been dictated too by the past 7 months and the anti Maori rhetoric by this government, I have no doubt that civil unrest will occur by years end. Along the same line as Trumps attack on the WhiteHouse.
One of the biggest grievances for Maori that makes a mockery of the ‘one law for all’ rhetoric is the PERPETUAL LEASES.
“Crony capitalism” has never been shown for the threat to democracy that it is, at present.
Shane Jones (aka Dr Porn Pork) with his penchant for toadying up to mining and fishing interests – diarised and undiarised;
David Mcleod’s ‘missing money’ – in the hundred of thousands – that were donated from local ‘businessman’ with shares in seabed mining; …. but wait, there’s more. Just be patient, it will emerge in time…..
While everyone is Maori bashing thes fuckers are recolinizing NZ with a wave of asians .Remember when Winston used to go on about the asian invasion ?now her has done a 180degree turn and is moaning about Maori survival .In the mean time the government is starting to wage war on first home buyers because they are buying homes that their mates used to buy ,hence they are giving the land lord class nearly 3 billion so they can mop up all the bargains that will be on the market over the next two years as they sink the country .
Winston’s now come out in favor of selling large amounts of land to foreigners. INTERESTING
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-03-27/new-zealand-s-winston-peters-open-to-relaxing-foreign-home-buyer-ban
Maori/Pakeha divide diverts attention from the Asian recolonisation by stealth just as the Nats endeavoured to privatise health by stealth, while like housing, education is becoming a free for all.
Politicians and power brokers don’t care about civil unrest. They won’t be here. The parliamentarians hid in the Beehive during the Parliamentary Precinct protests, and should these escalate further, they’ll be ensconced off-shore in Hawaii sort of places. With the Minister of Police doing sfa to retain the country’s cops, have-nots may have to be controlled by the armed forces. That’s the way it is.
The housing situation is a tragedy for more than the undeserving poor, and Luxon gloating in Parliament like a school yard bully whenever he speaks, trivialises issues which decent responsible adults would address with the utmost gravity. He has none. There’s always been some dodgy bods in Parliament, but they don’t usually get to become PM’s the way they seem to do now.
Didn’t vote and not feeling the kick up the arse…
The chances of civil unrest abated following the October 2023 general election.
Thank heavens for the October 2023 general election result.
While this rhetoric plays to the left in a “I told you so” spiel, as much as Hoskings plays to the right extremists in NZ, both ignore the huge gap of ordinary disinterested middle income kiwis who fall between the two.
These are the people who decide elections. These are the people who think politics takes a long second place to rugby and Shortland Street. It’s only when government policies impact directly on them, their livelihoods and their loved ones, that they’ll get off their collective arses and do something.
Unfortunately for Seymour, Peters and Luxon, their finance minister is doing just that. Every public service redundancy affects 30 people roughly (spouses, family and relatives), and that’s where discontent starts and grows.
Seymour thinks parliament is supreme without constraint, but he’s sadly about to be disabused of that notion by the NZ courts. Government and the Crown have obligations that cannot be ignored, and the TOW is one of NZ sacred cows. Mess with and die.
Middle class security and comfort is another political reality, this coalition of chaos is about to learn to its cost, that you don’t mess with. Touch it and die.
Some interesting times ahead (ancient Chinese curse).
Martyn- Kiri Allen anyone?
” Likewise this Government’s total acquiescence to donors interests and fast tracking powers to dismantle environmental legislation risks civil disobedience…”
Judith , Mark and the Egg shell are waiting for the first sign of any kickback so they can implement draconian anti protest legislation U.K Tory style.
” The Metropolitan Police were out in force during the coronation of Charles Windsor on Saturday 6 May. During the run-up, they boasted of plans to deploy 11,500 officers into London. However, the event was overshadowed by the Met’s zealous use of new anti-protest laws. ”
” This Government is owned by big tobacco, big mining and big money! ”
It would be a god send for Luxon and his hard line cabinet members who have not shown their true colours yet in supressing and civil disobedience.
Fortunately for Luxon and his gangsters the Hobbits are so apathetic , lazy , arguing on social media and arrogantly indulged that it will not be an issue.
The Hobitts complain and moan cause its easier than working up a sweat.
” Likewise this Government’s total acquiescence to donors interests and fast tracking powers to dismantle environmental legislation risks civil disobedience…”
Judith , Mark and the Egg shell are waiting for the first sign of any kickback so they can implement draconian anti protest legislation U.K Tory style.
” The Metropolitan Police were out in force during the coronation of Charles Windsor on Saturday 6 May. During the run-up, they boasted of plans to deploy 11,500 officers into London. However, the event was overshadowed by the Met’s zealous use of new anti-protest laws. ”
” This Government is owned by big tobacco, big mining and big money! ”
It would be a god send for Luxon and his hard line cabinet members who have not shown their true colours yet in supressing civil disobedience.
Chris Luxon the tough man who stands firm will resurrect his poor PM polling.
Fortunately for Luxon and his gangsters the Hobbits are so apathetic , lazy , arguing on social media and arrogantly indulged that it will not be an issue.
The Hobitts complain and moan cause its easier than working up a sweat.
The govt is shi__ing on the treaty, threatening the tribunal, and has now removed the first home buyer grant, that was their idea in the first place. If they didn’t think it was any good, why did they come up with it?
Shows this govt’s prior agreements and promises, arn’t worth jack – unless you’re a mega landlord, because then you’ve hit the jackpot.
The backlash will result in a landslide for the NZ First, ACT,Nat government after the next election.
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