The glee so many have taken in Kiri Allan’s downfall is ugly

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Act leader accused of politicising Kiri Allan’s mental health struggles in urgent debate

Act leader David Seymour is being accused of politicising Kiri Allan’s mental health struggles after calling for the House to urgently debate the former Justice Minister’s resignation.

Seymour used the debate, granted by Speaker of the House Adrian Rurawhe, to both pay homage to Allan as a person but also to highlight other ministers that had resigned or been demoted, which forced Rurawhe to stop him for drifting too far from the debate’s topic – the resignation – because he was using his time to criticise the Government.

We hate each other so much now in New Zealand, that there is no mercy and only malice.

Qanon Sovereign Sheriffs, Incels, Anti-Co Governance Bigots, the Woke, ‘Pure Trans Joy Apologists’, feral anti vaxxers, Terfs, the Billionaire Class, Farmers, Labour, National, ACT, Property Speculators, Landlords, Exploited Migrant Workers, Renters, Beneficiaries, Māori Nationalists and the Professional Management Class – everyone hates everyone else who is not in their echo chamber tribe.

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We are a boiling cauldron of resentment towards one another, the ignorant arrogant reactionary Right vs the unforgiving puritanical woke Left.

We are manipulated by social media hate algorithms and economic anxiety we can not navigate.

The manner in which so many have ripped Kiri Allen to pieces and shat all over her is merely a symptom of where we are now in our culture, that ACT took such glee last night in desecrating the political corpse of Kiri Allen was vomit inducing, when Winston is the voice of reason, you know shit has become unhinged…

…we have become a nation of cunts with none of the depth and none of the warmth.

Kiri fucked up and Kiri has paid the price for that, but so many on the Right have seized upon this as the opportunity to mutilate her character because that’s who we are now.

I despair at what a country of petty arseholes we have become while the planet melts and the Billionaire class laugh all the way to the bank.

It’s amazing the Political Right have such audacity to attack Kiri when they have staff in front of the courts for far, far, far worse!

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119 COMMENTS

  1. Its called Maori-hating pure and simple!! The right mostly that frequent this site at least show sooooooooo much animosity towards anything Maori there’s only one word to call that type of behaviour?

    Now they’ll say that its ‘free speech’ a guise to vent their vitriol towards Maori mis-characterizing the culture or individual ‘Kiri Allen’ to reinforce their superior narrative.

    Maori that stand out or are seen as too uppity are targets for the right unless they’re promoting their values like Alan Duff, Apirana Ngata, Winston Peters, and dare I say reluctantly David Seymour to name a few.

    The right that visit this site and I could name a few others have this bigoted racial component to their narrative as if this is a reflections of how insecure they feel about themselves and their existence in NZ/AO. IMO the right represent a virulent type of white nationalism that is playing itself out in this current election cycle.

    • I’m sorry, your Race Card has been declined. Do you have any other form of argument?

      • PP II: the race card isn’t an argument: it’s an epithet, flung by those who have no substantive counter-argument. As we see with Stephen.

        As things stand, nobody can criticize the actions of somebody of Maori descent, without the SJWs wading in, and waving their race cards about.

        It’s bad enough now. Imagine how much worse it would be, were co-governance to get its constitutional feet properly under the table.

    • Was it colonialism that forced Allen to get pissed, drive and crash a car and then resist police conducting their investigation?

        • oh right, all alcohol related crime must be forgiven cuz colonialism…visit a hospital a and e on saturday night

        • Michal: “And who brought alcohol to this fair country.”

          What? You want to blame present-day people for the fact that the first Europeans brought alcohol with them? What does that have to go with any of us now alive? A ridiculous and pointless assertion, if I may say so.

      • Frank the Tank: “Was it colonialism….”

        Well, of course it was! One can blame anything on colonialism, if one is sufficiently inventive.

    • Stephan: “reinforce their superior narrative”

      Really? How about this from the Maori Party: Quote: “It is a known fact that Māori genetic makeup is stronger than others.”
      Brown supremacists?

      • Yeah a visit to one of those racist anti Co governance meetings will sort you out Stephen( sarc)

      • There is nothing wrong with Stephen he is outnumbered, and he is giving as good as he gets. Many Pakehas don’t like it when you stand up to them, I suppose it’s hard when you have had it all your way for so long it’s hard to share power and decision making.

        • Covid. There are Four Maori seats in Parliament, and nothing to stop you running for Parliament except yourself.

        • CiP: have you done a head-count of local and national pollies who have Maori ancestry? Were you to do so, you’d find that their numbers are roughly equivalent to numbers in the population who characterise themselves as Maori. How’s that for equal representation?

          Note that the majority of the above people haven’t had to rely on the Maori electoral system to get themselves elected.

          Note further that there’s been so much intermarriage in NZ that talk of “us” and “them” is just ludicrous. Whether you like it or not, we’re “we”.

          Kiri Allan didn’t behave that way because she’s of Maori descent. That has nothing to do with it. If you think it has, it’s up to you to provide an explanation for it.

        • There is plenty wrong with Stephen and as for his accusing anything that moves with racist he is in fact the most racist person on here (despite his earlier attestation that it is an impossibility for a brown person to be racist) . .

    • Stephen. Marama Davidson and two or three other non-white girls and women, televised spewing vitriol about Pakeha at the Auckland vigil for murdered members of the Muslim community was the most publicly racist performance, in recent times. She has never stopped either.

      Utilising the anti-free speech protest at Albert Park to blame white cisgender (sigh) males for all violence was also untrue, and possibly deranged IMO. Her attributing ranting that white men should delete themselves was due to being “ pissed” is simply not good enough for a political leader.

      If politicians are unable to accept the social responsibilities which come with leadership, then they should go away, and stop being divisive, disruptive and self-indulgent opportunists, wailing, ” Racism” or “ Colonialism “ or Sexism” when criticised.

      Many of us have frequently condemned John Key’s persistently tormenting a young waitress with his obsessive hair pulling, and Bill English’s demonising our young males, and Richardson and Shipley’s
      beneficiary bashing, and Ardern’s authoritarianism, because we address their actions, not their ethnicity, which is how it should be. Your accusation of racism doesn’t stand.

      • Marama is more of a crusader for civil rights than you will ever be. I would gladly sacrifice free speech if it meant and end to racism, homophobia and intolerance.

        • Millsy. You don’t know what you’re talking about. I’ve achieved more as an unpaid advocate than Marama has, and based on principle, not on colour, ignorance, sexism, prejudice, or self-interest.

          • Whatever. All you seem to do is carry on about how brown people have too much rights, and need to be beaten into submission by cops. Also, you want homosexuality and trangenderism recriminalised, and Christianity imposed at gunpoint. I can see right thru you.

            • Really? Never said any of this; you may need to recheck with the little voices who are telling you these odd sort of things.

            • Millsy: please refrain from putting words into other people’s mouths. If you have an argument, make it. But stop with the ad homs, insults and reductio ad absurda. It’s tiresome.

              I suggest that you go do your maths homework, like you told your mother you would. Leave the debate to the grownups.

    • Yes same as that poor Maori man who killed two on the construction site. Sarcasm. Not Manu Reids fault it was colonialism that shot those innocent people and strangled his partner in the woke world.

      Keep blaming others and sure enough, more deaths are going to happen in NZ!

      We already make it ok for people to steal and attack anything or anyone they feel like and nobody is allowed to stop them, while police missing in action as they go to another woke talk fest about protecting those who get triggered by a misplaced pronoun or word.

      More woke revisionist historians on the pigs back with funding instead of real research being done in NZ universities – inciting more to avoid responsibility for their actions while taking NZ into the 3rd world.

      • You are so full of hate Save. Why don’t you admit you want all Maori imprisoned without trial. I know you do. You hate poor people, you hate workers, you hate Maori and you hate LGBT, you want to vote ACT that will cut wages and give you your Free Speech which you can use to beat minorities into submission.

      • Yes, Frank colonialism will always be with us it’s in our Pakeha DNA you know full well the damage colonialism has done to indigenous peoples!

        • Back off. You’re out of your depth here, so just back off. There was no need whatsoever to bring colour into this horrendous family tragedy.

        • CiP: “…what about that poor white South African woman…”

          What the hell has her ethnicity to do with anything? It’s irrelevant.

          Nobody here has pointed to the number of Maori children killed by their parents or caregivers, and made an issue of the ethnicity of the killers. Though we could have.

      • saveNZ: “…strangled his partner…”

        She wasn’t his partner. She was somebody who, out of the goodness of her heart, offered that fellow somewhere to live, when he had nowhere to go.

        So that’s the thanks she got for her charity. I’m not sure that makes his actions more reprehensible, but it surely feels like it

    • I haven’t seen much hatred directed at the white South African women who killed her children in Timaru. And my taxes will be paying for that expensive court case probably her medical treatment too. Someone has to take the blame for this being allowed to happen. In NZ people are quick to put the boot into Māori when they abuse or kill their kids but when it’s their own kind nah! there’s an outpouring of sympathy. Bloody hypocrites!
      Bloody racist!

      • Thats because White Sth Africans are the neo-colonialist right wing majority masquerading as good ol Europeans kiwi mums and dads now.

        They’ve infiltrated all public sector bureaucracies and are now instituting the agenda they could no longer maintain in South Africa with the fall of apartheid.

        Seriously, look at the numbers of Sth African immigrants to NZ. They’re nothing more than white supremacists hiding in plain sight!

        • Black with a Vengeance: “….White Sth Africans are the neo-colonialist right wing majority….”

          Good grief: surely you don’t actually believe that nonsense? It bespeaks how appallingly little you know about South Africa as it was then.

          I’m of the generation which campaigned against racist systems, such as that in South Africa, along with pre-civil rights US.

          The whites of South Africa were a minority. The governmental system was known as apartheid. It was government by whites over everyone else.

          “Seriously, look at the numbers of Sth African immigrants to NZ. They’re nothing more than white supremacists hiding in plain sight!”

          All sorts of people leave South Africa and come to NZ. I’ve met some of them: they certainly aren’t just white people. They come here to get away from the egregious violence there: not realising, of course, that we here now have just that same sort of violence.

          Even before the fall of apartheid, South Africa was plagued by violence. Sadly, things haven’t improved, despite governance now being in the hands of the black majority. It’s an awful place, I hear.

          Don’t make me regret either our campaigning, or the end of apartheid.

          • Read the fucking room and do ​a quick head count of how many maori bashing cracker ass saffas post here or on kiwibog or bash it, crass and snide…

            The number of white South Africans who emigrated and brought their entrenched racist attitudes to NZ far outnumber the ones who didn’t.

            Race relations in NZ took a dive when they started stirring the political pot and infiltrated middle management across the board.

            What do you think the effect would be if we allowed thousands of radicalized Muslim people into NZ would be ?

            The majority of white Sth Africans here aren’t egalitarian liberals, they’re neo colonial ultra conservatives who think Aotearoa is a white country and that Maori should be grateful and know their place like Blacks in South Africa should have.

            • Black with a Vengeance: your nom really sums up you disposition, does it not?

              “…how many maori bashing cracker ass saffas post here or on kiwibog or bash it, crass and snide…..”

              How on earth could you possibly know that? You’re just characterising in this way every critical comment. You’re being much too sensitive: lighten up, say I. And accept that critique is of what many of Maori descent do, not who all those of Maori descent are. And that critique is eminently justified: just look at the news reports any day of the week.

              “Race relations in NZ took a dive when they started stirring the political pot and infiltrated middle management across the board.”

              And your evidence for this is….? Some links would be good. In my view – and I’ve lived a very long time – the deterioration in race relations here coincided with the rise in crime from about the late 70s into the 80s (driven by rising unemployment and the arrival of cannabis). And it got much worse in the 1990s, before South Africans started arriving here in numbers. Then the arrival of meth (ice, as we knew it then) in the very early noughties swung a wrecking ball through much of Maori society. It hasn’t recovered.

              “What do you think the effect would be if we allowed thousands of radicalized Muslim people into NZ…”

              In virtue of what would you think that we haven’t?

              “The majority of white Sth Africans here aren’t egalitarian liberals, they’re neo colonial ultra conservatives…”

              Again: evidence, please. Supply links.

              FWIW, I’m an egalitarian liberal. And pakeha. And I’m horrified by the levels of crime here, and who disproportionately commits that crime. No excuses: people need to take responsibility for their actions.

      • Covid is pa Yes, it’s good isn’t it that nobody is displaying hatred towards that lady. Mind you, decent self- respecting people are rarely, if ever, haters. For that family, normal persons may feel compassion, and hope for some sort of peace for both the living and the dead.

        For Ms Allan, the most important thing is how she feels about herself. Mouse-minds on social media or in Parliament don’t matter, and are best ignored, and will be as soon as something else happens which enables them to be the ghouls and fools which they are.

    • OMG Stephen, so virtuous. What are ya, fukn 14? Dickheads going around driving drunk after calling people granny killers for not being masked 24/7. In the real world some people just want to point to a little hypocrisy when these situations arise. Your low expectations of certain people should actually raise a few eyebrows.

    • Stephen: enough with the identity politics! You do yourself – and her – no favours by attempting it.

      Critique of Allan has nothing to do with her ethnicity: she behaved appallingly, and that’s all.

      For what it’s worth, here is my comment on another thread: “While her actions were inexcusable, I feel great compassion for Kiri Allan at present. She’s had a very public and humiliating fall from grace. I note that she’s decided to stand down from politics. This is a wise decision on her part: possibly the wisest she’s made in recent times.”

    • Was there a debate in the chamber on Uffindell? Can’t recall. He was investigated, the results were kept completely secret despite the family involved saying they were happy for a redacted version to be released. So based purely on the word of Luxon he was reinstated. How about questioning that leadership.

      • Those throwing up National MP’s in comparison, as Wheel suggested, where were the comparison urgent debates in parliament for those Nats?
        Muller was a one time leader?

          • The topic was should there be a debate in the chamber about Allan. Seymour needed a map to get back to the topic he was so far off course. Even Winston pointed out it was bullshit.

            You are right that Sam I am is not a comparison in terms of cabinet membership but Seymour was just being an a’hole.

    • Uffindel, was a teenager, the issue was dealt with at the time, it came up last year and he was roasted for it. He probably shouldn’t be in parliament. I don’t think he’s ever going to be a cabinet minister.

      Unfortunately for Kiri she was a cabinet minister at the time. That is the issue.

      What happened to her at the weekend happens every weekend to ordinary people, and if you are a supermarket worker your boss probably won’t sack you. If you’re a teacher you might be in trouble.

      • You are so right about the situation regarding Uffindel. The two MP cannot be regarded in the same light . Those bring him into the arguement are clutching at straws to deflect from the serious situation.
        Those pointing fingers need to remember mental health problems can happen to anybody no matter their personnal situation rich or poor ,black or white . At the same time it should be possible to debate the facts and comment on how the system failed Kiri

  3. Sam the bed leg basher got an easy run, the report was kept well within the Natzo top brass house. Barbara the animal cruelty enabler harassed officials and slithered out too.

  4. Martyn do you think we have just become petty now? Not sure it was much of a journey. Wasn’t that long ago that we were, at least technically, making criminals out of homosexuality. In hindsight how f’ing unbelievably small minded and delusional was that. We have made some progress. There seems to be an awful lot of money to be made out of convincing everyone that we hate each other. I am not convinced that’s any more true now, of the majority of people, than it used to be.

  5. Seymour does not represent the people of NZ. His trashing of KA is on him, not the rest of us. And you forgot RE agents – we hate them too.

  6. Usual gutter politics from ACT.
    As a party supported by rich-lister predator types, no surprise there.

    Even Roger Douglas has abandoned them, and that’s saying something.

  7. I have no sympathy for her. She hasn’t apologised to the owner of the ute, shows how arrogant and out of touch she is. Also, name another job where you can crash a company car half-cut and then continue to draw three months salary. This woman achieved two thirds of fuck all as a minister in an equally useless cabinet. As before, zero sympathy.

    • It’s worse than that. I believe outgoing MP’s draw a salary until Jan or feb. Any one with real mana would resign.

    • I think you will find she will be back at work in parliament and working for her constituency, they are really grieving at the fact they will lose her.

    • I support this politician getting the help they need but obviously I don’t condone their behaviour

    • H: “I have no sympathy for her.”

      Neither do I. Sympathy suggests that one condones her actions, at least to some extent. I don’t: she behaved appallingly and inexcusably.

      But I still have compassion for her. As the saying goes: there but for the grace of God go the rest of us.

  8. Unfortunately there are still some people in this country who take delight in other people’s pain. I feel quite deeply that we, as a nation, ought to extend our support to Kiri at this time.

    • She’d be about the only one getting support then.

      Neoliberalism made it’s bed, now it gets to lay in the vitriol.

    • And pain is what we got when Act was last in government.
      Winston is right, Seymour is a coward, end of story. Perhaps an urgent debate into the relevance of the ACT party only there because it was gifted Epsom in a dirty deal. Paul Goldsmith is a Clayton’s MP.

        • Yes, sounds like a plan. We must support driving and crashing and resisting arrest while drunk. Top marks, Danny, +10 to your social credit score.

          • I support the person who allegedly has mental health struggles at present and them obtaining the help they need but it was not an endorsement of the behaviour.

          • I support this politician getting the necessary help they need but do not endorse their behaviour

  9. The lefties crying “leave allen alone you bullies” are the same people that have endlessly said nasty things about Trump (orange man) or Luxon (looks like a penis),

    I agree however, our political climate has got out of hand and is very cuntish, however I think BOTH sides need to have a good look at themselves

    • It’s because Trump is a vile crooked piece of shit who say’s everything is a plot against him. If he was driving Allan’s car ( ok he doesn’t drink but is probably oxy’d to the eyeballs) he would claim the ute was thrown in his path or something equally as ridiculous. I am no Luxon fan but he is an exemplary human being in comparison to Trump.

  10. Honestly, the press gallery should be holding their heads in shame; seeing blood in the water with Keri’s relationship meltdown, they destroyed her because she… yelled at beaurocrats, once, a year ago, we think. No one in the press gallery, or frankly, out here in reality land, would pass this test. Really poor.

    • Exactly. This isn’t Helen Clark speeding to an event as PM; this is a confused, hurt, at times battered down politician who tried to hold it together for a long time, and unfortunately failed to do so in this instance

  11. Many of the comments above serve only to reinforce Martyn’s article, sadly.
    Question is: is there an answer? Not within our present ‘democratic’ system, it seems.
    Any candidate standing for election would do well to read Gareth Hughes article in the media today. They may have second thoughts.
    There’s a salutary truth in the millennial-old saying….’anyone without sin, let them cast the first stone’.
    But that doesn’t stop a gargantuan quarry-load of stones being thrown, but Parliament – and what it spawns – was always more like a playground.
    Time to grow up, girls and boys!

  12. “The glee so many have taken in Kiri Allan’s downfall is ugly” That’s because there are so many ugly kiwis.
    Breed a Scotsman with an Irishman with a Brit and a German and you get a white New Zealander with no sense of humour. Kiri Allan’s better out of the bland kiwi stew of politics and broader society and go and live a happy life far away from dumb little wellington with its dumb little people doing small dumb shit.
    I coined a phrase for cowardly car drivers who follow up the arse’s of the cars in front. They’re too dumb to pull over for a cigarette and a slug of booze. Oh, wait. Wrong time period. To dumb to pull over for their anti-anxiety meds and a Red Bull and instead follow the moron in front who in turn’s following their own moron in front of them. I call that phenomenon The Tweedle Snake. The Tweedle Dee’s in front being followed by the Tweedle Dum’s behind. I over took a line of them once heading into Oamaru. It was a beautiful day on a looooong straight stretch of road and there they were, the Tweedles following each other dutifully at 95 kph.
    Personally, and legally, I needed that other 5 kph so I overtook them at 40 kph over zer speed limit. I had plenty of time to peer at the Tweedles even as I shredded the speed limit. There they were, peering over the steering wheel at the back of the car in front. For all I know they’er still there, Tweedling along. Complying, acquiescing, non thinking, non creative, non romantic. Just tweedling along. Kiri Allan threatened the Tweedle-quo. It used to be called the status quo but even that was too bland to stand up by itself. Kiri Allan threatened the Tweedle-ites and she got crucified for it.
    I see Tweedles here. They’re everywhere. The ada’s, bob’s, nathan’s, stevens etc… tweedling along. Sniping, snipping. Little flea-clones with lessor fleas following and lessor still, Ad infinitum.

    • Frankly, I’m shocked that the insane WEIRDos down in Wellington haven’t yet decided to impose speed governors on all private vehicles. Gotta hit those ridiculous ‘road to zero’ goals, right?

  13. Perhaps a news blackout , similar to the type given to the brave young lad who punched the elderly lady at the trans love fest , is needed now with Kiri. She has done things wrong, and we can’t go back in time, but she is hurting, vulnerable and needs family and friends to support her now in her time of need…we all know what can happen to people when all seems dark and lost, my family included. Hopefully she will recover, bounce back and eventually end up in a position where she can show her talents, but with less public scrutiny.

  14. So tired of the worried well blaming everything and escaping any censure by blaming mental health issues.

    Having a hard time is normal in life, not generally a mental health issue that is so serious it excuses unacceptable behaviour.

    Someone was saying they were overseas and this is what is in the overseas headlines about NZ as the FIFA World Cup puts NZ in the spotlight.

    A 24yo man on home detention with ankle bracelet, allowed to work after strangling his girlfriend, gets an illegal shotgun and kills 2 people at his place of work in the city by the FIFA World Cup venue.

    Two others climb up a monument and won’t come down until the police promise them a feed of KFC.

    The NZ justice minister is charged with resisting arrest and seems to be driving drunk and crashing while blaming mental issues.

    Not a good look, NZ!

    Overseas readers don’t even have to drive on our potholes or find that the law is changed so that the road legal speeding limit is so low it takes a day trip to get across town these days with all the cones, sink holes and slips to navigate. Now we have to look out for those in power having mental health episodes while driving, to boot!

    As for the public transport like trains, billions spent but companies are allowed to not deliver anything in NZ! Just say a Karakia and everything will be ok and the cheques for non performance will keep rolling in for NZ contractors and firms sitting on the pigs back! $100k a day for legal at the Supercity and that’s on top of the bloated amount of internal lawyers and staff the supercity is paying for. Most people will agree, council and government services seem to be getting worse, and projects taking longer the more they pay.

  15. Winston, the voice of reason. Totally agree. Leave Kiri alone.

    Her life has turned to shit and she is pushing 40 and has nothing much left in her life. She’s given her mea culpa so lets give her the space to get on and heal.

  20. I feel sorry for Kiri Allan. A poorly managed cabinet and lack of pastoral care has wrecked her career.
    Also there is no love lost between Winston and Seymour.
    The tiresome one upmanship between these two always jockeying for the moral high ground( and Seymour ALWAYS starts it) will wreck the next administration of our once gorgeous country.

  21. It was the Resisting arrest that was the main issue.

    Drinking , yes we have all been there. Car crash is a stressful situation.

    I think she should not have been back at work. …so sorry Chippie, you should have been more firm.

  22. How many sock puppets are patting themselves on thier own backs in this blog sites comments!

    Bullshit in – bulshit out!

    This sites comments section has zero cred in a world full of white noise, loud useless minorities, and real time stupidity!

    To much dribble – not enough thinking here!

  23. Alan is another drunk useless politician with no cred.

    She fucked up more than once.
    Good riddance

    Go Seymour. Take no prisoners in this woke world full of fucktards justifying fukwits!…. because they are tainted with the same stupidity

  24. I haven’t seen much hatred directed at the white South African women who killed her children in Timaru. And my taxes will be paying for that expensive court case probably her medical treatment too. Someone has to take the blame for this being allowed to happen. In NZ people are quick to put the boot into Māori when they abuse or kill their kids but when it’s their own kind nah! there’s an outpouring of sympathy. Bloody hypocrites!
    Bloody racist!

  25. I wouldn’t call it glee, I’d call it another politician living up to expectations and some people shocked to find out how crooked they all are. Well I’m not shocked at all, par for the course.

  26. I take no satisfaction in Kiri’s fall from grace, she obviously has issues.

    However, it must also be acknowledged that she ‘has form’ and the series of events leading up to her fall does raise the question on how did she get into this position?

    The accusations of bullying and intimation, the speech at the broadcasting event, the message to MPs to keep OIA on the hop does point to a person that possibly should not have gained so much power. Now we’re hearing off labour MPs leaking stories about her and her behaviour just prior to her incident.

    Personally I would love nothing but to hear not a thing from her again until she has found some peace, it is obvious that she is extremely unwell, but how did the red flags get so missed by the prime minsters office, when Labours own MPs were raising deep concerns?

  28. Did Kiri have too much on her plate? I wonder why it is now necessary for 6 MP’s to now take her portfolios? Another hard worker burned out.

  29. The biggest standout for me is when National MPs stuffed up…and they did many a time, if labour was asked by the Media what they thought they never put the boot in and always answered with ” it is a matter for them to deal with” whereas National and Act can’t wait to kick someone when they’re down…it’s disgusting, you have to ask if their objective is to actually try and tip someone over the edge. How is it the Media left Mueller alone when he had his mental health.struggles?

  30. Why are you pointing all this out Martyn? Those who can recognise the truth of the revelation are few, and the majority will despise you for pointing it out. There won’t be any votes for the left-leaning from the readers who one would hope would change their ways. They won’t. I have mentioned about the scapegoat style, written about post WW2 in 1948 – Shirley Jackson’s The Lottery.
    What is the story of The Lottery?
    The story describes a fictional small American community which observes an annual tradition known as “the lottery”, in which a member of the community is selected by chance and stoned to death to ensure a good harvest and purge the town of bad omens.
    The Lottery – Wikipedia wikipedia.org
    https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › The_Lottery

    Video – The ugly psychology behind scapegoating | Luke Burgis | Big Think
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLa0zqShCcw

    Jung – Scapegoat Complex, The (Studies in Jungian Psychology …
    https://www.amazon.com › … Whakamāoritia tēnei whārangi scapegoat psychology from http://www.amazon.com
    Someone who is scapegoated will carry blame of others, as people dump their shadow side on another person. The scapegoat can develop an inflated view of …

  31. We should and need to expect better of our elected public officials with MInisterial responsibilities. It’s not good enough to blame bad behavior on mental health.

  32. meh – she fucked up and is gone – move on. The over the top reaction to a human making a human mistake just because they are a peoples representative is pathetic. Governments come and go – this is another one – I expect you will all reverse your positions when the next one arrives. The left will become whinging and moaning sore losers and the right will become tread lightly defenders of their incumbents. Yawn. Feudalist party politics should be relegated to the dustbin of history and a form of independant meritocratic representation instituted. A small and efficient form of governance will not come from the Unionists or the Conservatives – the only answers lie on the edges. I have not voted for Labour or National since the introduction of MMP. I suggest everyone else does the same.

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