Monarchs belong in the Dustbin of History

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Now that the tears shed have dried and as the bouquets are turned to compost, we can look beyond the passing of a nice-enough little old lady, no more or less deserving than a million others, at the institution she represented. 

And that is a totally different story. 

Monarchy obscures the crimes of empire and wraps them in nostalgia. It exalts white supremacy and racial hierarchy. It justifies class rule. It buttresses an economic and social system that callously discards and often consigns to death those considered the lesser breeds, most of whom are people who aren’t white. 

The cries of the millions of victims of empire; the thousands killedtortured, raped and imprisoned during the Mau Mau rebellion in Kenya, so soon after Elizabeth made her famous oath to serve us; the 13 Irish civilians gunned down on “Bloody Sunday;” the thousands of First Nation’s children who died or went missing in government-sponsored institutions established to “assimilate” indigenous children into British culture, and the hundreds of thousands killed during the invasion and occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan are drowned out by cheers for royal processions and the sacral aura an obsequious press weaves around the aristocracy. 

The coverage of the queen’s death was so mind-numbingly vapid — the BBC sent out a news alert on Saturday when Prince Harry and Prince William, accompanied by their wives, surveyed the floral tributes to their grandmother displayed outside Windsor Castle — that the press might as well have turned the coverage over to the mythmakers and publicists employed by the royal family.

These are the thoughts of Pulitzer-prize winning journalist and author Chris Hedges, and I thoroughly recommend them to you.

 

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108 COMMENTS

  1. This reads like the scribblings of a 19-yr old sociology student.

    It would be interesting to hear how African kingdoms “exalt[ed] white supremacy and racial hierarchy.”

    It would also be interesting to know what responsibility Elizabeth the 2nd bears for the “hundreds of thousands killed during the invasion and occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan” (Tony Bliar is the guilty one there). And you are aware that the queen-less Soviet Union also invaded Afghanistan, right?

    • Pope Punctilious II- ‘It would also be interesting to know what responsibility Elizabeth the 2nd bears for the’ “hundreds of thousands killed during the invasion and occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan”

      Pope Punctilious II did you see the video of her Majesty condoning the invasion of Iraq twice?
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLMGFuSnUiI

      If you’re justifying these aggressions by British colonialism than you are a racist full-stop!!

  2. How does monarchy obscure the “crimes of empire” any more than republican systems of governance? A certain ring leader of the Iraq and Afghanistan invasions is not ‘ruled’ by a monarch. Chinese imperialism, Russians now trying to help themselves to Ukraine….I don’t see monarchs at the wheel.

      • Stephen I am aware thanks. Pretty sure Liz was not around then and I am pretty sure Liz publicly acknowledged the wrong doings of the crown and signed the settlement with Tainui.

        I find it laughable that modern day New Zealanders blame those located at Buckingham palace today for our current day attitudes. Can you change the past, no, but attempts to try redress some of the wrong doings are stymied by local attitudes not the monarch. Why do you think Nationals race baiting works so well? That’s despite previous iterations of National having a far more progressive attitude ( ok it’s a low bar).

        • ‘I find it laughable that modern day New Zealanders blame those located at Buckingham palace today for our current day attitudes.’

          You just don’t get it and I don’t expect you too given that you’ve never suffered from institutional racism or racism in general. The experiences of Indigenous peoples globally concerning the british monarchy and the effects on their lives can’t be refuted. You are using contemporary issues but can’t fathom the relationship of these behaviors that have been honed over a significant period of time, in NZ case 183 years or longer. And British imperialism is the genesis of racism (White Supremacy) in Australia, New Zealand, USA, Canada, etc… and its reflected today.

          • Still shooting your Maori Magic Bullets around eh Stephen . . still also trying to convince people that only white people are racist and that it is an impossibility for a member of a minority to be racist?

            Racism nuon the unfair treatment of people who belong to a different race; violent behaviour towards them.

            Doesn’t appear as if the Oxford Dictionary agrees with you for a start (and yes I realise this is an English dictionary but ‘racism’ is an English word after all) . .

            • James+Brown if you don’t know the meaning of racism than you’re clearly dumber than I thought!!
              racism
              /ˈreɪsɪz(ə)m/
              Learn to pronounce
              noun
              prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.

      • Perhaps imperialism is too harsher description then (although people in Tibet would argue it’s not). Much as the US is accused of being imperialistic in places such as Iraq and Afghanistan, when it hasn’t actually colonised them. China have helped selves to the Spratley islands etc (granted that’s not about people), and sure as hell isn’t in the Solomons for shits and giggles. The point was you don’t need a monarchy to act like arseholes.

        • Cantabrian Oh looky here the ‘banderite troll’ Tibetans have been formally classed as one of China’s 56 ethnic groups they look the same they’re in the same region like next door unlike GB that got their filth everywhere where they just ethnically don’t belong.

          • So Stephen one country can justifiably invade another if they are ‘ethnically similar’ and ‘next door’?
            And if so and we this scale this reasoning down a bit would I be similarly justified in taking over my neighbours house because . . what is your batshit crazy criteria again . . they are ‘next door’ and ‘ethnically similar’ to myself?
            You do realise don’t you Stephen that this isn’t a comedy blog?

  3. Being white does not make someone more destructive than being of colour .If a coloured race had invented guns and the means to build ships that could sail to all parts of the globe with a large force of soldiers then what is being said about white people would be said of coloured . Due to Europe having harsh winters white people needed to be inventive to survive whereas colored people did not need to . This is not to say white people were smarter as coloured developed to suit their environment.
    They still had rulers that took them to war with other tribes to increase their territory and get slaves to work the land .Are these tribes being told to say sorry to those they defeated . Here in NZ are various tribes that defeated other tribes being asked to give back the lands they took many years ago.

    • Quite correct Trevor – Muslim pirates used to raid the European coast for hundreds of years taking countless Europeans to the slave markets of North Africa . . reason that many of the older villages etc in Southern Italy are sited well away from the coast (something not widely known because surely only white people are responsible for slavery or in a wider sense all evil)?

      “In his 2003 book Christian Slaves, Muslim Masters: White Slavery in the Mediterranean, the Barbary Coast and Italy, 1500–1800, Ohio State University history professor Robert Davis states that most modern historians minimize the white slave trade. Davis estimates that slave traders from Tunis, Algiers, and Tripoli alone enslaved 1 million to 1.25 million Europeans in North Africa, from the beginning of the 16th century to the middle of the 18th (these numbers do not include the European people who were enslaved by Morocco and by other raiders and traders of the Mediterranean Sea coast).[3][page needed] To extrapolate his numbers, Davis assumes the number of European slaves captured by Barbary pirates remained roughly constant for a 250-year period, stating:
      There are no records of how many men, women and children were enslaved, but it is possible to calculate roughly the number of fresh captives that would have been needed to keep populations steady and replace those slaves who died, escaped, were ransomed, or converted to Islam. On this basis it is thought that around 8,500 new slaves were needed annually to replenish numbers – about 850,000 captives over the century from 1580 to 1680. By extension, for the 250 years between 1530 and 1780, the figure could easily have been as high as 1,250,000.”

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_slave_trade

      https://cepr.org/voxeu/columns/long-run-consequences-pirate-attacks-coasts-italy

      • ‘Davis assumes the number of European slaves captured by Barbary pirates remained roughly constant for a 250-year period,’

        ‘There are no records of how many men, women and children were enslaved,’

        Buhahaha You clearly don’t know how to copy and paste? your attempt to sound convincing when the person that you’d copied and reference from doesn’t even know himself the figures of how many europeans were enslaved. Great sourcing James+Brown

        • It would be an impossibility for anyone to know the exact figure – again I am not in the least surprised that this is not immediately apparent to you.

  4. All these ‘Royalist’ coming to the defense of crimes committed under the fascist white supremacy of British Imperialism. These jokers are historically illiterate and only see the world in their image. They possess a myopic view and are wrongly of the opinion that their european exceptionalism is going to last for eternality? Well they’re fucken wrong and if the current happenings are anything to substantiate my claims than I’d be right to imply that the west unipolar moment is about to come to an end. Dream on royalist the death of her majesty Elizabeth 2 signals the downfall of the last vestige of the English Monarch influence.

    • If you think ‘European Exceptionalism’ is over visit and contrast Vienna to Dhaka / Copenhagen to Lagos / Munich to Damascus and then get back to us . . Long live the King.

      • Or Florence to Port Moresby / Barcelona to Karachi / Prague to Cairo . . or for some ‘local flavour’ Windsor to Ngaruawahia . .

      • ‘James+Brown If you think ‘European Exceptionalism’ is over visit and contrast Vienna to Dhaka / Copenhagen to Lagos / Munich to Damascus and then get back to us . . Long live the King.’

        You just don’t fucken get it dumb dumb, The sphere of influence is gone and that happening right before our eyes!! You fucken Royalist are like dogs chasing its own tale wake the fuck up the east is rising and its just begun.

      • Good on you James very well put.
        Most people on this site have never been out of the country but that doesn’t stop them being experts on life outside NZ.
        Many are juvenile in their understanding of real life believing only the left wing ramblings of some self appointed guru.

    • By the way Stephen I am not defending the monarchy I just think it’s laughable to suggest that republican, or one party states are free of imperialistic tendencies

    • fascism did not exist as a concept for most of the time period of the british empire stephen….so who’s the ‘historical illirerate’?

  5. Monarchy is terrible. But without completely cutting out the rats who dominate NZ politics, a Republic would be no better. Look at how subservient Jacinda is to foreign interests.

    • I started watching ‘The Corporation’ last night. Oh dear Jesus. https://youtu.be/Y888wVY5hzw
      Don’t watch it on a week night and only watch it in the morning. That’ll give you time to rationalise and process what you’re about to see before you try to go to sleep.
      Basically, the United States Politic created a psychopathic monster and I’m not exaggerating. ‘Corporations’ have person status thanks to amendments to the constitution ( the 14th I think it was.) but unlike most persons Corporations only have one objective and that is growth helped by being unfettered by a conscience.
      I finally understand how Corporate’s in collusion with others have managed to sequester farmer goods away from farmers after paying them a stipend then taking those goods, piling them up then rorting our trading partners to make massive profits while barely lifting a fat, pink, finger.
      I found reference to ‘The Corporation’ paired up with another documentary titled ‘Inside Job’ on Boingboing.net.
      We should stop the four foreign owned banks from trading here because they’re colluding with the Corporations to keep us down trodden while we’re forced to work ever harder for them. We’ve effectively become enslaved. Our lovely homes we bought by mortgaging have imprisoned us.
      We should actively befriend our farmers. Sure, many of our farmers are gruff, aggressive and arrogant but that’s just fear. We all strike out when afraid. Lets try friendship and inclusion instead. You can tame a lion if you treat it well.
      For example: Fletcher Challenge have just held our entire country to ransom by stalling production of Gib Board. ( Check out Fletcher Challenge’s inner workings in Wikipedia. You might be surprised and shocked.)
      I think we need to reverse the trend of bullying, greed and fear. I think we need to start killing off the psychopaths and I think we should start with the banks.

      • Same in NZ unfortunately, with our limited liability companies and limited liability partnerships and our Companies Act 1993. Don’t even get me started on our Trusts system either (aka off balance sheet transactions and wealth shuffle vehicles). It’s a blatant legal crime when you actually know and witness it every day. I’m an accountant and I’ve seen more than I ever wanted. All perfectly legal, but immoral as f*ck!

      • To be honest for the most part I think you are nuttier than squirrel shit but to be fair you have a point here Countryboy . .

      • Yeah like the ‘New Zealand company’ formed by an ex-convict and child molester ‘William Wakefield’ who came here to rip off Maori also the East Indian company that looted India and the Dutch East India Company etc… These are all european exceptionalist commerce that are responsible for the genocide and dispossession of Indigenous populations globally you don’t need to watch a youtube video to figure this out.

    • Good point and I think that the other interests relating around profiteering are worse and less in line with democracy and transparency.

    • Turns out that the TDB’s resident Muslim Putin Apologist isn’t a monarchist . . who could have predicted that one?

  6. Regardless of what the author thinks of the British Monarchy it won’t disappear until the British public wish it gone. That doesn’t seem imminent. This country no doubt will have a referendum again some time in the future to decide whether we want out. That will be our decision. This government won’t push for it now, and if National happens to win the next election I doubt they would be tempted to have a referendum in their first term so any thoughts of change most likely five years away. In the mean time there are a few other pressing issues here to deal with, like survival, for many out there.

  7. ( Someone described the Monarchy as being like a mantle piece at a piss up. It gives one a thing to lean against. )
    I started watching ‘The Corporation’ last night. Oh dear Jesus. https://youtu.be/Y888wVY5hzw
    Don’t watch it on a week night and only watch it in the morning. That’ll give you time to rationalise and process what you’re about to see before you try to go to sleep.
    Basically, the United States Politic created a psychopathic monster and I’m not exaggerating. ‘Corporations’ have person status thanks to amendments to the constitution ( the 14th I think it was.) but unlike most persons Corporations only have one objective and that is growth helped by being unfettered by a conscience.
    I finally understand how Corporate’s in collusion with others have managed to sequester farmer goods away from farmers after paying them a stipend then taking those goods, piling them up then rorting our trading partners to make massive profits while barely lifting a fat, pink, finger.
    I found reference to ‘The Corporation’ paired up with another documentary titled ‘Inside Job’ on Boingboing.net.
    We should stop the four foreign owned banks from trading here because they’re colluding with the Corporations to keep us down trodden while we’re forced to work ever harder for them. We’ve effectively become enslaved. Our lovely homes we bought by mortgaging have imprisoned us.
    We should actively befriend our farmers. Sure, many of our farmers are gruff, aggressive and arrogant but that’s just fear. We all strike out when afraid. Lets try friendship and inclusion instead. You can tame a lion if you treat it well.
    For example: Fletcher Challenge have just held our entire country to ransom by stalling production of Gib Board. ( Check out Fletcher Challenge’s inner workings in Wikipedia. You might be surprised and shocked.)
    I think we need to reverse the trend of bullying, greed and fear. I think we need to start killing off the psychopaths and I think we should start with the banks.

    • Country boy, good on ya. I do love your rants. I was in agreement right up until killing off the psychopaths. It’s just problematic. We’d end up with more psychopaths killing off the weak and unloved. Unintended consequences. I wrote on another thread that we need to all develop more empathy. We need to care more. It’s challenging to do when we are distracted by every day life and some of us are more educationally and otherwise challenged than others to begin with (including the psychopathic banksters). I watched a documentary a wile back (sorry can’t recall the reference) about an expert in the psychology field studying psychopaths brain patterns and other things. He ended up studying his own brain and genetics etc as well, which revealed he had the markers for psychopathy. He’d had a loving environment to grow up in and thrive and lived a decent law abiding life, so never developed his psychopathic tendencies to harm others. I found that truly remarkable on all levels. We may never have learned that if we’d killed him. Thankfully he didn’t grow up to be a banker or worse, too. What would our planet look like without evil in it too? Would we even still appreciate all that is still good and hearty?

      • That would be Prof. James Fallon, @Sinic.
        The problem with psychopathy is it’s intractability to any form of treatment or threat of punishment Applying “wrap around services” and support is merely taken advantage of, with little to no positive change in behavioural outcomes. As things currently stand, every single psychopath out there represents a potential threat, as there is no “handbrake” on their actions, no limits to the harm they can perpetrate. NONE. They are without a conscience. The neural circuity is absent.
        We literally have no option but to incarcerate them, or send ’em to “the Green Mile”, so to speak, if we want surety of safety.
        A reliable biomarker for their detection would allow screening & identification: forewarned is forearmed. Surely a reduction in evil would equate to a reduction in pain for the those who wind up the unfortunate victims of these “not-quite-humans”.

        • Yes thanks Jase. Your comment is also my understanding of psychopathy, “not quite human” indeed. I see humanity on a spectrum according to each one’s level of natural (not faked) empathy. It’s fascinating that now there are physical markers for it, via our genetic codes and brain scans etc. I will add though, having genetic markers could be used inappropriately without any crimes having been committed, but good info in it’s infancy all the same. Care needs to be taken of course, with any advance knowledge of known markers.

  8. Woke want to cancel history. The monarchy is living history and preserves art and artefacts from that history.

    If the monarchy goes in the UK then we all know that some Oligarch will be buying up the palace and all their belongings. That history will be lost for the public.

    The public gets to enjoy a taste of history every time there is a royal ceremony. I didn’t watch the funeral and don’t particularly support the monarchy, but do like the history that is available intact from keeping the monarchy rather than being sold off in pieces.

    • no snz the public gets to stand outside the railings of buck house taking selfies
      ..ownership of the building so long as it remains standing is meaningless as the public can only look at it from afar.
      …though the tourist authority would have to get in some unemployed actors to wear the red jackets and fur hats.

  9. The British Empire, post Tudor period, was largely built by commercial interests, not by the Monarchy, the Monarchy only tagged along to entrench the established incursions.
    For centuries the Monarchy has been a rapacious family racket but not the prime mover or representation of Empire.

  10. If only the world coughed up righteous leaders more often. QEII was awesome imo. We will no doubt endure a spell with a lesser leader, so we can fathom how that is in comparison to what we had. There are other awesome leaders on the planet. Their awesomeness is less public, but I’m sure we all know at least one in our personal lives. NZ looses nothing to remain a commonwealth country. NZ is far too immature and corrupt to let that go yet.

  11. The monarchy is all that sets Britain apart from anywhere else. It’s the only living history apart from old trees. In their position I would trim the costs right back, slim it down, assess the business case and ensure it runs at a profit all things considered. It employs many people and is a big tourist drawcard. Also look at the real grief from the everyday person-you can’t buy that. So you need to give the people someone to love and respect even if you and I don’t give a shit. So old soldiers fought for Queen but would they fight for country nowadays? Also the pomp is second to none anywhere in the world-fantastic. The Queen gave Britain Mana around the world-who doesn’t watch the Queens message? My only misgiving is the ethics around saddling children such as George with the burden of being King-not really healthy for any child. I would consider putting an age limit on when they become the Monarch-perhaps 65 so they can lead a normal life first-after that anyone would probably enjoy the drama of it all in their final years.
    Sorry to be so clinical about all this-can’t help myself.

    • Excellent comment Orbital Panda. I agree. I never cared about monarchy all my life but have been learning about it for about a year or so now. As a “getting older” person now, I find history fascinating to learn about to see where we have gotten too now. I think it is fair to say that most kiwis don’t comprehend monarchy. It’s not part of our public education system. Hell, we don’t even know our own short history as a nation yet. But times are changing, however slowly it seems, when we are living it. Jmo

  12. I feel that the trappings of wealth exhibited by the monarchy and Royal family, the billions of dollars that Buckingham palace is worth, the private country residences, the jewels, artworks, carriages, and costumes are extravagant but are they also not symbols of the victory of war? Had the Germans won, it is simply their palaces and castles that could potentially be worth billions of dollars, and we wouldn’t want that.

    Moreover the new sovereign had previously dedicated the majority of his life to being heir to the throne and prince of Wales and worked tirelessly before the Queen’s death in order to reshape the monarchy and slim it down somewhat. Most of the trusts are doing well of their own accord, which includes the duchy of Cornwall and the duchy of Lancaster, which own various assets including land holdings and prime real estate. This is not public funds but rather held in trust for the reigning sovereign and passed down from one monarch to the next.

  13. the royals are paid big money to STFU which they duly do….why would expect any kind of political action from a showroom dummy.

  14. I think I might have doubled up in my hurry to get to the last scone down at the cafe. So apols if so.
    I think you’re a very insightful fellow @ ME but I think you’ve pulled up short of the curb on this one.
    The royal family are nuanced as fuck. They’re there, they do what they do, and that ‘do’, is to be regal and that, is inimitable. That’s the point of it and I know for sure that if it were not for the history that gave us the modern royals galloping out of history in all their rude arrogance and “What ho! Ha Zah ! ” we white fools wouldn’t be here, or there either. It’s essentially why people buy Jaguar, RR , or, in my case, a Land Rover Discovery. I bought a Land Rover mainly because it wasn’t a fucking Toyota. Or, God forbid, and fucking Ford Ranger. ( That’s also why I spent most of my driving time broken down on the side of the road, but at least I looked classy. The Royal Family are not corporate plasti-people. They have Class dahlings.
    Their distinctive presence has glued legions together to travel the world ( And concur, murder, pillage and no doubt rape their way into, and out of, literally every continent on the planet. I’m not saying it was a good thing. I’m just saying. )
    I’d go so far as to argue that we need the Royal Family now more than ever in history given the documentary ‘The Corporation’. The Royals ARE rich and some are pervy. They’re flamboyant and regal, of course but at least they’re humans. Not, zombie-club Corporate psychopaths staffed by greedy, narcissistic sociopaths. I doubt it’ll be Putin who’ll drop the first A bomb. It’ll more likely be the likes of Walmart. The bomb will come with a sticker. ” You were vaporised by Walmart. Open until midnight seven days a week. “

  15. The key role of the Monarchy, and why it’s important, is that it is seen as apolitical and thus acts to unite disparate political ideologies (and cultures). Without it, you end up with the current US system of rabid partisan politics – a sheer hatred of the “other side” (as opposed to a mutual respect for the Crown).

    • like they don’t have the rabid politics in the UK..brexshit anyone….they’re cardboard cut outs and do nothing.

  16. A few facts that contradict this shallow diatribe:

    > Britain’s colonial era occurred entirely under the rule of parliament, and not the royalty. From 1653 onwards, kings were little more than figureheads.

    > While colonial rule was far from perfect, it displaced systems of government that were vastly more tyrannical. It brought trade, education, infrastructure and in many cases democracy. A classic case in point is India – the world’s largest democracy. That would never have happened if the place was left to the Sultans and Mughals.

    > Britain was the first country in the world to outlaw slavery and subsequently enforced the law by force of arms right around the world. The law was passed in 1883 and luckily for enslaved Maori, 10,000 or more slaves were released by their captors subsequent to rule of law being imposed in this country, thanks to the Treaty.

    > Of all the British colonies that gained their independence in the 20th century, only Singapore has made progress post-independence. Choose whichever measure you like; economic, social or political, the citizens of all those colonies, regardless of race, lost a large measure of economic, social, or political freedom and now look back with fond memories at the good old days of colonial rule.

      • James+Brown Zimbabwe economy rebounded in 2021 driven by recovery of agriculture and industry and relative stabilization of prices and exchange rates. GDP is estimated to have grown by 5.8% in 2021 after contracting by 6.2% in 2020.

        The reason their country fell into poverty was thru european exceptionalism GDP doesn’t reflect the real wealth in a country and with China investing heavily in building infrastructure and investments they’ll become an economic powerhouse in the near future.

        • You heard it first here people – Zimbabwe is on the cusp of becoming an ‘economic powerhouse’ . .

          “The rise in commodity prices due to the Russia-Ukraine conflict has exacerbated Zimbabwe’s long-standing structural issues, which are characterised by rising inflation and continuous depreciation of the Zimbabwean dollar and continue to undermine economic recovery from coronavirus pandemic and weather shocks. Despite headline growth having rebounded in 2021, high poverty rates and youth unemployment persist. Protests over high fuel prices, high levels of food insecurity and endemic corruption, as well as declining real wages as inflation soars, highlight the risk of wider political instability.”

          https://country.eiu.com/zimbabwe

        • LOL
          You’ve never been there, have you? It’s a despotic, corrupt, shit-hole Stephen. You have absolutely no idea just how bad things can be. Having seen the old Rhodesia I can only cry at what the place has turned into.
          With the possible exception of Botswana, all the former British colonies in Africa have collapsed into ruin, all thanks to Marxism, nepotism, corruption and sheer incompetence. Even mighty South Africa now faces ruin.

          • I would be very surprised if Stephen has ever been overseas . . other than maybe a couple of trips over to ‘the Goldi’ to see his Cuzzies.

            • Love that James.
              I have expressed the same sentiment on this site many times.
              Although Kiwi’s are known to be well travelled very few contribute to The Daily Blog.

  17. The monarchy is not perfect, but which system is? I certainly do not want us to change to a USA style Republic.
    IMO we have been well served by QEII; it is now for King Charles to evolve the monarchy to include modern understandings, whilst maintaining the stability and timelessness it provides.
    Yes, atrocities have been enacted in the name of the Crown, but the Crown has no monopoly on that. The enduring continuium provided by a monarchy actually provides for those historical acts to be acknowledged and processes enacted enabling recognition and forgiveness so as we are able to move forward.
    We are in many ways fortunate in Aotearoa in that we have the stability afforded by a monarch but little of the class society it entails in UK. Personally I think we may be surprised at what Charles will bring to the roll, I certainly wish him well for all our sakes – in our current toxic political environment a debate on a constitution and republic could only create massive civil unrest.

  18. Dear Malcolm
    You have the same name as my birth father whose remains lie in France with the others of the Lancaster bomber crew of whom only one survived. Practically speaking I doubt whether not having a monarchy would make a great difference to our tortured human history.

    Please go ahead will you with your descriptive artistic jabs at our doings and happenings but making a long-form swipe at our royal institution may end up opening gaps to let some of the intemperate and compulsive materialists trending to psychopathy waiting in the wings stride in and do the Nazi thing. It is quite horrific what propaganda and coercion can wreak in a supposed civil society.

    Germany was in the throes of changing its form of polity. As uncertainties and opportunities appeared, they were like cracks in a pavement, the stronger weeds thrust up and hey presto the conflagration of human values reaching the pinnacle of the industrial, mechanised age. I suggest don’t rub the lamp hoping for good magic; the genie that may arise is likely to be deceptively glamorous but with underlying evil.

  19. Monarchies must go? I assume that includes the Maori king? Obviously! What say all you selective anti-royalists?

  20. Sorry Malcolm I don’t agree with your article but I respect your viewpoint.
    I reckon the world is a complex place at the moment with no easy quick answers to the monarchy/republic situation.
    I would rather give the situation a bit of time, wait and see what unfolds in NZ-Aotearoa and world stage to gauge the future.
    There are so many players in this game.

  21. I’m no fan of the monarchy but can’t you choose your sources more carefully Malcolm? I mean a yank with an axe to grind! At least get a British source for God’s sake!

  22. The goober who wrote this belongs in the dustbin of history, along with that shrill little thing “Stephen”… but you have to have been something useful once upon a time to end up in “history’s” dustbin unfortunately. So I guess … just stop “contributing” please. No one cares what you are bleating on about.

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