Hyper tourism trying to scam domestic kiwis again

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NZ tourism sector needs international visitors to ‘thrive’

Before Covid-19, tourism was New Zealand’s largest export, generating $41 billion for the New Zealand economy in 2019 alone. When the virus arrived and New Zealand shut down, that dropped to $26 billion by 2021.

Before Covid, we had 4million tourists per year! There are only 5 million of us! Our country has been over run by hyper tourism and if you ask any of those greedy pricks how many is too many – there is no answer!

The hyper tourism industry would welcome 20 million a year if they could get away with it!

The hyper tourism industry exploits us the domestic citizen, and then tells us that our exploitation is important for the economy!

This country has two secrets to our ‘economic growth’ – steal land off Māori and never pay it back and open the floodgates to cheap lazy immigration to create the sense of growth with none of the planned building of infrastructure to cope with that mass immigration.

We have learned nothing from Covid and are rapidly trying to recreate our low wage economy again.

Watching the hyper tourism industry that has abused us so badly now beg us is joy.

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31 COMMENTS

  1. Which is an acceptable argument IF you have another industry in the wings capable of earning 20-odd Billion.

    If you don’t it is at best a pyrrhic victory at worst economic self mutilation.

    Sri Lanka, South Africa, Zimbabwe thought they knew best. We might add New Zimbabwe to that list if we continue on the current trajectory.

    • funny panzerboi how your ‘bad examples’ always refer to african countries, still some residua; boer angst….

      by all indices the US is a ‘failing state’ as is the UK, strange you don’t use those exemplars innit?

      • Lol. I don’t see a collapsed health system, 50% of school aged children not attending nor large scale housing inequality in either of those 2 examples where the average salary is far in excess of New Zimbabwe. And last time I checked Sri Lanka wasn’t in Africa.

        Nice try Gargar.

        • try the health system in the low tax states of the southern us and the homeless vets oh and the poverty wages and ‘middle class’ yanks living in cars…
          why did a british guy now dead found a portable hospital with volunteers expecting to do disaster relief in the 3rd world only set up shop in the welfare queen states exclusively

          I really don’t have to try very hard panzerboi.

    • Maybe you are right Frank – but at least we could charge the buggers for their jet emissions (which are massive). Currently we don’t but we are quite happy to knobble our own domestic industry and farmers on this.

  2. I may be wrong but the overarching impression I have of this government is NOT to return to hyper tourism or cheap migrant labour exploitation and it appears genuine. I mean, we propped up our public transport systems exploiting migrant workers because psuedo slavery was the only option left to make it work!

    Like anything cheap, it comes at a far greater hidden cost!

    So well done Labour! Stick with it.

    • I would agree xray except for the plans to increase capacity at wellie airport….what’s that for a drastic influx of korean business investors…or is the ‘high value tourist’ another red herring? a reduction in scandi backpackers and japanese snowboarders means a fair few businesses that exploit them will have to go…does any NZ govt have the guts for that.

      my personal view is less shit on the road verges would be a good thing but can an NZ govt grasp the nettle…well going by the past performance of both sides…………………

      • Not against tourism at all but it was so bad here workers in Queenstown were renting room space, not a whole room mind, but a bit of a room such was the shit money vs exorbitant overheads and blatant greed. All the while plenty of these workers were on with visas.

        Welcome to Aotearoa suckers!

        • yup the q-town employers are arseholes…no servants = no business there are any number of dead former resorts in europe and the us to make the point….but a quid today and fuck the future is the short term mindset of kiwi business

          simply rip em off now and forget ‘repeat business’

  3. Like Frank said, if not tourism then what?

    We need to pay the bills and unless we start selling our coal and other mineral resources we’ve got what? Milk and, er, milk?

    • If good for our economy includes driving down wages, driving up rents, despoiling our environment, competing for our resources, wearing out our tatty infrastructure, clogging up our parks and reserves and generally getting in the way then yes.

        • I do apologise.
          Lining the pockets of multinational tourism investors, supermarkets, chain hotels, petroleum companies and others who exploit workers on minimum wages and poor conditions notwithstanding.
          Whos economy is benefited is the question

    • If good for our economy includes driving down wages, driving up rents, despoiling our environment, competing for our resources, wearing out our tatty infrastructure, clogging up our parks and reserves and generally getting in the way then yes.

    • I diagnose myopia. Bob has no idea of how our abuse of this planet is about to cause us all to be swept off it. Nor does he have the vision to conceive of it happening.
      Never mind, he can keep on cuddling up to what he thinks is good for the holy, sacred Economy.
      Sorry, Bob – you will eventually find out that the Greens were right..

      • You may be correct In Vino but my faith in humans is such I believe we will solve the environmental issues.
        Technology is exponential.

  4. A big part of the problem with this industry is a huge amount of the profit flowed back overseas as many tourism companies are foreign owned. Fools gold.

  5. ” We have learned nothing from Covid and are rapidly trying to recreate our low wage economy again ”

    Covid only temporarily interfered with the neo liberal economy just long enough for the capitalist’s to work out how to respond and sell Covid as an opportunity until the neo liberal settings could be reapplied and enhanced by their supporters and enablers particularly the front bench in the current government.

  6. “Before Covid-19, tourism was New Zealand’s largest export, generating $41 billion for the New Zealand economy in 2019 alone. ”
    “Lies, damned lies, and statistics”.
    No disrespect, but I’m calling bullshit on that.
    Our politicians? Liars. Our urban b

    • Damn right @ CB. Protein has always been our number 1 export.
      The myth that tourism was our number 1 income is pure and simple bullshit, as the figures does not differentiate between domestic and international visitors, and was bandied about by Air NZ and Tourism big wigs wanting to make there jobs and themselves look important.
      Behind every successful third world country lies a prosperous tourism industry!

  7. “Before Covid-19, tourism was New Zealand’s largest export, generating $41 billion for the New Zealand economy in 2019 alone.’
    I say prove it.
    Lies, damned lies, and statistics.”
    No disrespect but I’m calling bullshit on that one.
    Politicians = liars.
    MSM= liars
    Banks=liars
    local government= liars
    RBNZ=liars
    IRD=liars
    And yet, suddenly, the above stat is supposed to be true. Yeah, right.

  8. So the 27,000 homeless motel people will be in need of bridges to live under to free up rooms for tourists.

    Good plan! FFS!

  9. Tourism – how should ours be structured if to be? Gordon Campbell makes cogent points.

    https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL2208/S00034/on-why-big-spenders-are-not-our-tourism-salvation.htm

    I am against masses of poor tourists – Venice had to restrict the numbers of young tourists the place abounded with. But I am all for young people on short working holidays who return home – my local Italian restaurant has young people from all over – very pleasant. And the woofers working for bread and board and some money must have space in the immigration portals – such an excellent way for young people to learn about the world.
    Then there are the seasonal ones that followed winter’s snow around the world, they were necessary for that business here, and they like our outdoor life – what next for them? Can we have a properly structured system that is run well efficiently and without too much whim, or charging high and delivering low; Immigration gets too big for its boots in every country I think, petty tyrants with power.

    We are a little overbalanced in their favour at present and again most are very pleasant and my friends from the fish and chip shop have sold to Chinese people and I will give them some free lemons to welcome their debut. Building good relations. I will probably go to a ceremony connected with local Maori on Sunday, and get some Turkish ishkender on the way home, so some of my good acquaintances are from abroad. But enough for now.

    I feel that Labour ministers have to have a meeting and vow to each other that they are going to say no or yes to certain practices that will make change for the better, that they would like to usher onward for the good of the country. That would be very enhancing for the Party at this stage with opportunity for things to start happening before the election, thus regaining some of their lost credibility.

  10. Bomber – what about the global warming impact? You forgot to mention the huge emmissions on all international jets that fall into a regulatory ‘black hole’ so no-one gets charged or is held accountable – most unlike you to overlook this. Why does nobody seem to get this? The hypocrisy of a government wanting to on the one hand charge it’s own farmers for short-term methane gases but blithely encouraging rampant in-bound tourist long-lived CO2 emmissions – knows no bounds.

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