The National Party are nothing more than a front for Chinese Business interests, so John Key who engineered our ‘all our cows in one Chinese paddock’ strategy is on explaining why we should suck up to our Chinese Overlords.
He blames Trump for the change in China narrative rather than the domestic working classes being burnt by neoliberal free market economics that exported jobs to the deepest, darkest most de-unionised parts of China thanks to global supply chains.
Key needs to defend China’s authoritarianism and down play it because National is riddled with Chinese compromise.
Key is right that Pelosi’s visit to Taiwan was dangerous and provocative at a time when we urgently need to de-escalate the growing frisson between Washington and Beijing but his total acquiescence to China shows you just how far National will bend over backwards to China if they take power in 2023.
Chairman Key’s mass surveillance state loves Chairman Xi’s mass surveillance state and his apologist position towards China is cringe worthy.
The manner in which he shrugs off the organ harvesting, cultural genocide, territory taking, investment debt traps, geopolitical posturing, spying and brutal authoritarianism and vast human rights breaching just because he sees a chance to make money in China is just so venal you can actually see the glow in his eyes when he thinks about the profit margins.
It’s just amazing to watch him show us what he is with no self awareness whatsoever.
It’s so good to see the master at work.
He argues that we need to cherish our new Chinese Overlords and ‘achieve change’ by showing respect.
One would argue that we need to remain independent rather than craven, but no one does craven like John.
Jack reminds Key about calling NZ a smug hermit kingdom when China have continued with zero tolerance, and asks if after all the praise Key heaped on China, does that criticism extend to China?
Key laughs and says it is a very large smug hermit kingdom.
He gives Luxon 10 out of 10 which seems ludicrous.
This interview is hilarious because it happens while the legal case against Chinese Business Interests attempting to buy Labour and National is being debated in Court right now!
Sylvia Wood has been appointed the new Party President. The manner in which Goodfellow set up her coronation is still being challenged but the extraordinary insight was Luxon’s ignorance that the youth benefit he has been so angrily denouncing includes young people with illness, sickness and disability!
Wow!
WOW!
He wants to bash young people on benefits BUT DIDN’T KNOW those numbers included the disabled, the sick and the ill?
That, that’s amazing.
That is such jaw dropping ignorance of the people he’s trying to bully, it’s like attacking a Hindu for 9/11.
How on earth is Luxon being this poorly advised?
The never ending issue of the bloody port is being debated again.
Efeso is passionate.
Vic didn’t seem to know she was being interviewed.
Wayne Brown seemed confused.
Leo Molloy’s casual acknowledgement that he will hand over the keys for the Stadium he’ll build in the 12th year of his Mayoralty was very funny.
Nothing will ever happen. Ever.
Ever.
Ever.
I will die before anything ever happens to that bloody Port.
Oscar is on. He’s just the best and news he is joining local politics is a blessing because he’s such a legend.
Our legacy of treating Pacific People poorly is never talked about enough and the climate crisis demands a new way of interacting with our Pacifica Whānau.
His intelligence and his depth matter.
His defence of his art in these dreadfully woke times also matters.
Jack does an excellent job of exploring Oscar’s values and thoughts, we would be blessed getting him into Politics!
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a Q+A during conference weekend where the Leader didn’t appear. Luxon is wobbly.
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It was a Democrats party stunt! Theyre worried about the midterm elections. Pelosi went to Taiwan and Biden killed someone in Pakistan. Meanwhile they fund a War in the Ukraine and the American people have had enough of the Dems. A bit like here in NZ. We’ve had enough of a bs labour government!
National Party is a front for the Chinese Communist Party, not just the Chinese Business Community…
Key sucking up to China and Tame sucking up to Key. Tame seems to be much nicer to Key than Jacinda and why is that.
National is a front for the Chinese Communist Party as well as Chinese Business
You need help.
It’s absolutely no coincidence that this interview is aired, while National Party conference is being held in Christchurch.
Simon Power is in charge of TVNZ. Key is Simon Power’s BFF.
There’s no way that Luxon has the mental acuity to have given Key’s ‘chilling insight to National’s acquiescence to Beijing’ without Luxon backflipping and trying to mansplain himself, while blinking, fluffing and sweating.
John Key supports Luxon 10 out of 10, in the same way that Jim Henson supported the muppets. Key’s interview on Q&A, kneecaps Luxon, and effectively brings forward the date of Luxon’s departure by months. Luxon won’t be fired, but he will leave “for personal reasons”
It will be a Key moment in the fate of the National Party. Who replaces Luxon and will it be in 4 weeks, or 6?
Jack Tame is no fool. He knows better than most that the best way to get honest (and revealing) answers out of Key is to stroke his ego. Key can provide evasive answers to tough questions all day long (far better Luxon ever could). His biggest weakness is his enormous sense of self-worth and the fact that he holds himself in the highest regard. Play up to his belief in his own importance and he can’t help but wax lyrical about what he really believes.
Gosh how do you know that?
Four words – Simon Power!
Simply Key commands more respect.
ponytail pullers command respect?
Hahahaha!
Yep going into business with the prostitute brothers demands respect,
Bahahahahaha.
Simple reason. John Key is not a current MP. It would be exactly the same if Helen Clark was being interviewed. Former PM’s are accorded a degree of respect by virtue of the office they have held.
“Former PM’s are accorded a degree of respect by virtue of the office they have held.”
And I take it @ Wayne that you agree with that huh?. EVEN IF they’ve been completely fucking useless and done nothing of merit.
I guess that’s something we should aspire to eh.
As it happens, my reckons are you were more deserving of a Swayne than Key deserved a Sjohn.
At least you’ve got your little retirement plan worked out as a media boffin commentator. Big question is going to be whether the plebs ekshu;ly give a fuck.
So far ….. What are your thinkings ins this space, going forward?
Yes Wayne but one of these PMs quit the other got the boot has any NZ PM ever quit?
Martyn,Please have a listen to “Country life” natrad this week,I heard 5th,Friday night.Massive racial slur on PI people and an attack low wage works,the segment was about Kiwi fruit pickers,forgive me but my linking skills a sorely lacking,regards Al
Oh yeah more like cuntry life au!
That’s an indication of who you are.
Anti-China memes ‘spying and brutal authoritarianism and vast human rights breaching’? Sounds like the NZ Police and the Correctional Officers manning our Prison population. Its amusing that western journalist repeat the same western narratives of China HR abuses and make outrageous claims of genocide and cultural annihilation without real informed evidence but what CNN or FOX, SKY…. keep pushing. I have no doubt that China isn’t squeaky clean but accusation of genocide without hard evidence is another Iraq / Afghanistan/ Yemen/ Somalia/ moment to name but a few.
China hasn’t invaded countries (Taiwan & Tibet) are Chinese, like western powers it has remained largely peaceful to its neighbors and the rest of the globe. Remembering this co-governance meritocracy system we call communism had lifted 100s of millions out of poverty so how could they be accused of genocide when the opposite and quality of life has improved significantly for Chinese people across the board.
John Key mentioned a population can remove a government by an Arab Spring type of protest, in lieu of democracy. That’s not an acceptable, ordinary way of removing an autocratic government. The CCP would be facing an immediate existential threat and start killing people left, right, and centre to stop it. The CCP also effectively prevents huge protests from happening by controlling social media
And showing respect to achieve change, that’s laughable. CCP supporters are like extremely stubborn cult followers, and the CCP is their leader. They’re not going to change, period
Does this mean that in his eyes Aotearoa New Zealand is still John Key’s personal fiefdom ?
Isn’t it?
“,,,so John Key who engineered our ‘all our cows in one Chinese paddock’ strategy is on explaining why we should suck u”p to our Chinese Overlords”
LOL! And would Labour have come up with any different strategy? In fact why have they not already after 5 years in power?
They don’t do strategy only promises which they never keep.
National don’t do strategy Bob?
You are finally getting it.
“He blames Trump for the change in China narrative rather than the domestic working classes being burnt by neoliberal free market economics that exported jobs to the deepest, darkest most de-unionised parts of China thanks to global supply chains.”
Who cares about the American working classes – the foot soliders of imperialism
Further the American working classes, as with all Western working classes got rich off the plunder of the East by the West.
Fuck the US working classes
Key may have a glow on when he talks profit margins but he has cold dead dolls eyes covered by blinkered drooping eyelids on almost everything else. The ports of auckland issue has been a longtime coming and as you say will be a longtime going. I thought we had moved on from the Manukau, firth of thames options, rather than needing a $40 m review (did I catch that right) whangarei / northport makes the only sense really with bulk cargo rail frieghted. Rather than a stadium let’s get an entry portal for a rail Harbour tunnel through to bayswater/ akoranga dr. The Oscar interview was quite moving in his candid responses to critique on his creative endeavors and deep and important issues in the future of NZ engagement with the Pacific nations. It got me thinking also followed by waka huia how pakeha are also looking for a cultural role beyond the past of ‘building a better Britain’ and the (deserved) colonising label. I wonder if culturally pakeha are caught between the past and the future.
Jacinda is our leader and she is hardly vocal in dishing China . There are many things that most do not like happening in China but principles do not buy health or education for those that cannot afford to pay a premium so we just have to suckling it up and look the other way. Both parties do it .
Honesty Trevor thanks.
Snore!
Hang on Bomber. in the blog preceding this one you quite rightly damned Alex Jones for having “done more to damage the mental sanity of this planet than most individuals, with hate-drenched rhetoric playing to the worst aspects of masculinity, and for undermining the rational thought of those who tuned into him.” And then, in this blog, you embark on a similar rave, alleging China’s involvement in “organ harvesting, cultural genocide, territory taking, investment debt traps, geopolitical posturing, spying and brutal authoritarianism and vast human rights breaching.”
Which begs the question Bomber, if you were arraigned before a judge to justify such claims, as Jones was, would you fair any better than him, or would you too be lumped with a multi-million dollar fine for publishing unsubstantiated hearsay?
Remember when JK couldn’t remember his stance on the springbok tour
Remember when John key couldn’t remember one of his big investments and we are not a tax haven nek minute how many investors did the runner.
Didn’t know he was in politics then?
You don’t know anything so no surprise there.
What was yours?
And jk is more bent over forwards
Can you remember your stance on the All Black Romanian and Argentine tours in 81 and 85?
Oh fuck no! A comedian in politics! Oh hold on a minute? Well I suppose he’ll be in good company with a bunch of clowns if he gets elected into council. Will he be another labour party token?
Er just the day you wrote that Brilliant Chairlady Jacinda was sucking up to China and it was sickening. Make up your fucking mind.
That’s what I thought SK?
You had a thought Bob?
Agree SK it’s a goose and gander game.
That’s an authoratTive term command bob
It comes down to if we would rather be violated by Biden or Xi. I personally think we need to lower our dependence on both. If there is a literally hot war between the US and China, I would attempt for NZ to remain completely neutral, regardless of sanctions from either country (which I’m pretty sure the US will be first to implement in this scenario because that’s how they roll). That tactic certainly worked out well for both Sweden and Switzerland in WWII.
Smart observation Nitrium. I don’t really give a toss about National because they aren’t in power and it’s all posturing. What worries me is Jacindas running around looking like a WEF talking head with inclination towards a losing fading empire who don’t do us any trading favours. Time for a truly neutral stance where we trade to get the best deal for NZ.
Recently, I’ve been QI (that’s Quite Interested) in the definitions of what makes a Sociopath and what makes a Psychopath – and usually both subscribe to narcissistic tendencies. Empathy AND THE CAPABILITY TO FEEL EMPATHY figures large
The more we see of the likes of Key, and Luxon, and others, the more the ammunition towards the differences.
In some ways, I have more sympathy for the psychopath (The Putin, for example – incapable of any form of empathy)
The likes of Key and Lex Luxon – empathy is a tradeable commodity, to be activated if it doesn’t affect their own best interests.
The best thing to be said about the pair of them is “Ew”
Worse still, there’s another little munter on the horizon – a failed knock-kneed d-d-d-d-DJ we;re probably going to have to learn to stomach in the not too distant.
And the funniest thing is that they actually think I could give a shit about their egotistical advances – they put the brand technicians in place a long time ago that gave their opponents labels like “haters” and various other things. Fuk ’em and all who sail in them.
God strewth!!!! we even called Key charismatic not that long ago. He was always about as charismatic as Krus Luxon and as genuine as a Nick Leeson $US! bill.
It amazes me why we keep indulging these people (and I use the word ‘people’ because I can’t think of another)
Ew
Gosh you have more insight than everyone in the world OWT you write with such authority.
Must be a burden for you.
And you write like a two year old with crayons Bob, whilst learning to tag others articulate writing at the same time.
Make no mistake. Key still has his withered hand on a lever of the National Party and it’s courting of Chinese money and influence.
He proved that on Q and A this morning.
Yes Wayne but one of these PMs quit the other got the boot has any NZ PM ever quit?
No Sir John an honourable man.
Honorably pulls ponytails and starting up businesses with brothel owners, you do set your Honorably levels very low Bob but that says more about you than.anything else. Grubby little man.
Stupid
Yes, yes you are Bob
I agree NZ should maintain an independent position but this Labour government has essentially fallen in behind the neoconservative US position and at least John Key recognises that China is not the biggest bogeyman throwing their weight around the word.
Well said Malcolm.
How many tomes did Creepy visit China at their behest, 8,9,10 times?
Those that follow the dubious deals and strategies of the CCP Chinese Criminal Party, know that such trips are more about foreign influencing and currying special political inroads for the CCP’s ambitions. It is also well known, that this entails ‘financial benefits.’ This may take, a multitude of forms, from hard cash, to promises of well paid future positions to business deals. With the number of times Key made trips to see his ‘Best Friend,’ one has to wonder, what kind of benieficial arrangements were made behind the scenes?
Doesn’t anybody think that, while not innocuous at the time, that a unknown Chinese entity bought Key’s mansion for a higher than its value is more than unusual. Even more so, ever since the property was purchased, nobody has ever seen the owner, and it remains unoccupied to this day.
Don’t forget all the dirty Chinese money that flowed in while John was our boss.
BM
Don’t believe you can make this stuff up,do you hold meetings with yourself?
What the fuck are you on about keyboard troll Bob?
It’s time to reestablish pioneer spirit DIY suburban and rural industry in ways Maori, Pasifika and emigrant origins. Get pride of peoples back, diverse yet integral through goodwill, appreciating each other’s culture. Solve the 501s crime stain by legalising cannabis in home vege gardens. But ban China’s lucrative supply of soul-destroying chem drugs. Rehabilitate and incentivise 501s. Have 1970s-style national service military work camps instead of prisons. Turn gang sergeants at arm’s into Rangitira NCOs, for leading men in the Kiwi jungle warfare we’re going to need when our country is invaded from the North via Solomon Islands. Which they’ll do in my lifetime. I’m 75 yo and keen to help fight NZ spread of debilitating critical theory, too, by NZ university-trained fifth columnists mesmerised by globalists.
It’s time to reestablish pioneer spirit DIY suburban and rural industry in ways Maori, Pasifika and emigrant origins. Get pride of peoples back, diverse yet integral through goodwill, appreciating each other’s culture. Solve the 501s crime stain by legalising cannabis in home vege gardens. But ban China’s lucrative supply of soul-destroying chem drugs. Rehabilitate and incentivise 501s. Have 1970s-style national service military work camps instead of prisons. Turn gang sergeants at arm’s into Rangitira NCOs, for leading men in the Kiwi jungle warfare we’re going to need when our country is invaded from the North via Solomon Islands. Which they’ll do in my lifetime. I’m 75 yo and keen to help fight NZ spread of debilitating critical theory, too, by NZ university-trained fifth columnists mesmerised by globalists.
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