I’ve been following the IPCC reports on climate change from the beginning, and the criticism made against the IPCC was that due to its strict need for only unilaterally agreed science to make the official report, it was always underplaying the urgency and severity of the climate crisis.
There was always a section in each report where the science was presented that wasn’t universally accepted but included to show the reach and scope of debate.
Increasingly over the years, the worst case scenarios in the IPCC are playing out in real time.
The scientists were wrong, but only in their optimism.
You understand that each year that passes now will get worse or remain as starkly bad as they are now right?
You get that it doesn’t go back to normal after this right?
The extreme weather will get worse and worse.
More extreme than these extremes now.
Consider this baseline extreme normal now.
Sure the war run Ukraine is hurting food prices, but that’s damage on the baseline reality of a mega drought that has interrupted the agricultural calendar of major food producers.
The radical adaptation required to get us ready for what’s coming will splinter the political spectrum whether we like it or not.
Why shouldn’t we have our own basic pharmaceutical industry?
Engineering industry.
Industrial industry.
The supply side shocks caused by Covid and war are not going away, and they are being compounded by catastrophic climate change.
Radical adaptation and communal community resourcing alongside a Big State approach to lynchpin infrastructure for basic self-reliance as an Island country facing enormous economic shockwaves is the only means to build the muscle mass to respond to the ever intensifying external disruption of late stage capitalism.
The need to increase military spending to 3% alongside the new costs for this infrastructure must be funded via new taxes aimed at corporations and banks.
A financial transaction tax and windfall profit tax would take the yoke of taxation off working people and place it upon the shoulders of the wealthy.
National and ACT see mass immigration as a means to create fake growth at a time when we should be focused on de-growth.
Climate Crisis is here and adaptation is now.
We need to start rethinking Isolationism as a strength and Think Big as Economic Sovereignty.
The geopolitical shock waves are only getting more intense.
If you think being carbon neutral by 2050 is the solution, you are the problem.
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Once again, Martyn — look at the location of those extreme temperatures — airports! Black, hot tarmac — hot exhaust fumes increasing the temperatures…Auckland/Wellington/Christchurch temperatures would skyrocket during Summer if our temperatures were taken at their airports…
That’s a joke surely?
Taking airport based temperatures is wrong…the local temperature recordings outside those airports by the local communities were 10 degrees lower, still very hot…but not 40/43 degrees
That only partially explains tarmac temp. Just a hundred metres south of the air port it’s at least 5 degrees lower cause it’s a massive harbour. That’s why we take an average national temperature over time. These aren’t hard concepts to grasp.
no. he is actually this stupid.
So, the laws of physics simply do not work in your life standalonecomplex?
temperature readings have been taken from airports around the world for over half a century, so your argument is ridiculous, the tarmac isn’t getting hotter year after year, the planet is.
Explain why we don’t include our natural greenery carbon sink in the ETS scheme Standalone…..you are the expert it seems….
What the f*ck does that have to do with saying temperature extremes are all to do with putting the readers at airports ffs.
i’m not an expert on ETS, but i know stupid when i see it, and rob, you are pretty fucking stupid.
Thank you for your reply standalone…..most appreciated…..A simple answer or explanation to my question would have done….maybe my question is to low brow for the you intellect type…..but I will keep on asking until I get a sensible answer….
you are welcome.
nate previous figures were also presumably taken in the same place so a temperature rise is a temperature rise is a temperature rise, before you say ‘1976’ max temp then was 36, now 40…that’s 4 degrees in my lifetime….now take your denialist talking point and do what seems appropriate with it.
Yeah well…
We already have our own gargantuan market garden feeding [far more] than 40 million. Oh! And then there’s the wool. But we love polypropylene’s don’t we? 100% plastic. None of your natural rubbish.
We already have our own hydro electric dams sending electricity to the beautiful people in the logical fallacy cities.
We have a medical university in Dunedin where brilliant, young, world class med students are scourged by poverty and forced to live in pre glasnost Russia like hovels but hey! So long as the landlords and bankers are making massive profits for sitting on their fat arses, right?
RNZ
https://www.rnz.co.nz/programmes/the-detail/story/2018850869/calling-time-on-flat-out-frightful-student-living
We already have one of the largest exclusive fishing zones in the world but so long as Tallys and Sea Lord exclusively make gasp inducing profits for a fush they just need to pull out of the water while never having to worry about nurturing the fush while 200,000 thousand Kiwi kids lose their front teeth, and lives, eventually, due to poisonous diets of sugar and fat then we’re sweet, right?
I think part of our problem is that early on we were bashed by pious, God Botherer coloniser parents into thinking that hardship and exploitation was next to Godliness. Aye Mistress?
We’re beyond lucky. We’re where there is no word to describe just how lucky we are in these heady times.
And yet? We’re bullied and subjugated by evil entities within banking and politics into believing we’re unworthy and undeserving of having our money, that we earned, to spend on ourselves while enjoying the political governance we deserve who’s primary focus is on those who are most vulnerable and at risk FIRST! fuckers!
You’re right Martyn Bradbury. The world is in fire and it’s the fault of human perversions exploited by bankers and politicians who are without soul and intelligence and there’s now fuck all we can do without a change in direction that’s almost beyond imagination for it’s likelihood of augmentation.
We AO/NZ’ers should close down the foreign owned banks and return their cash assets to those most in need. Billions and billions of dollars that’s been disappearing off-shore in NET profits annually coming back should make an impact on those 200,000 AO/NZ kids living in poverty, right?
De establish the government. Lets be honest. What a pack of useless cunts. They get paid massive money to mince about with their vowels stuck out. Glittering little spectacles sucking on the shrivelled old tit of the public.
Instead? We’d be better to simply employ staff to manage our country as a business. Isn’t that what they’re already doing? It’s just that under current management, it’s the rich who suck on the public titty. Not us. It’s the crooked rich who get the tax breaks because they lobby the gubbimint to make it so! They can afford private health care, they can afford petrol and electricity. They can afford their kids. They don’t have to cry in private agony because their kids are going off the rails due to poverty. IN A RICH COUNTRY DUMB ASSES!
We’re fucked. Lets be honest. This, all of this, isn’t working. Is it?
We’ve had socialism within a democracy and that worked well enough. We’ve had a traitorous deviation into the literal madness of the mantra, ‘Greed is Good’ and that’s fucked us. And now? We still have an albeit dialled back version of neoliberalism but it’s still neoliberalism and it’s failing most of us alarmingly in dire times.
The new rich, however, are loving it. All they’ll see is opportunities as they go up in flames. I might start importing fire extinguishers!
The burning dining table got me.
The Guardian.
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2022/jul/29/the-week-around-the-world-in-20-pictures
CB for PM
Nathan I don’t know why you come here because you don’t want to learn anything, use your time to prepare for the future and help others work out ways to do so. If you just want to deny the concerning things discussed, then you take a superior position as if you were the know-all and we are children. Don’t waste your time.
I came here from The Standard because there is far too much time spent there discussing whether we need deck chairs, or where to place them, instead of thinking about the real problems. The discussion tends to get circular, and the result is implosion or…? Informed wide thinking discussion is needed – why don’t you do an on-line study course on something like Khan Academy on a skill or topic that you do want to know about. That would be useful to you and to all of us who are trying to make the transition to knowing, helping themselves and those close, and also the wider
community.
In my internet random education I have learned that if I want to know the thinking of simple, direct minds of males I should look at ‘urban dictionary’, remembering that they are usually sex-oriented. One entry for going in circles, I won’t pass on. But this quote covers what I fear from useless and futile argument and I think in future I should go to The Free Dictionary first!
circle the drain
To be in a state of severe deterioration such that one is approaching inevitable ruin, failure, or death. Usually used in the continuous form. The company’s closure was inevitable, as it has been circling the drain for the last six months.
Circling the drain – Idioms by The Free Dictionary
https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com › circling+the+drain
Why stop at 40 on the hypothetical forecast? Take it up to 100 so it really scares people.
Greywarbler – start your own blog…then invite your mates to it — here is some possible names for your new blog
1. Fuckwit, and friends
2. Knobheads Society
3. The Standard – lite
By the way, your one hand typing is coming along…have a nice day
ohhhh nate nasty, but why would grey want to use names you’ve already copyrighted for your own efforts.
nathan lacks friends. lacks female companionship, and is frustrated that he can’t progress further than “team leader”. so he is picking on grey. poor nathan…
Judging by some of these comments, our fate is sealed.
George Carlin said, “Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.”
‘Airport tarmac’………Jesus wept.
Yes, I agree it’s time the ‘scientists’ start being honest, especially about who’s paying them. It’s time the media started with some honesty, about who’s paying them too. Private jets and waterfront estates anyone?
Go away conspiracy theorist bottom dweller. If scientists were as corrupt as you claim and out chasing the dollar then they wouldn’t be scientists. Every PhD I’ve met is motivated by the quest for knowledge and if you knew anything about science you would understand that they are always out to falsify their own theory because that leads to new theories with greater explanatory power and therefore greater knowledge.
You know about the poor returns from poverty and climate posts in the age of accessible comfort. Democracy is about what troubles you now and our troubles are all over the hill a bit.
Getting people out of poverty is the best chance of starting to have any impact of man made climate change.
Imagine if you’re struggling to feed your family, who cares what Greta is going on about, because your family is starving. Studies have shown that once a person starts earning a certain amount per year, that their preoccupation of only living hand to mouth changes and they become more aware around their environment. This makes sense.
So if the climate change activist really want to reduce human impacts on the planet, then they need to first start getting those in poverty, out of their predicament. The problem however, is that history had shown that capitalism is the most efficient way to do this, and most climate change activists follow socialist principles, bordering on Marxism.
So nothing is going to happen
Hei where’s the moderation? Some totally immature and derogatory comments here.
who is in charge of this site ?
Fully agree with you Jeromeco
‘Soon it will be unrecognisable’: total climate meltdown cannot be stopped, says expert
And this is just the beginning, insists McGuire, who is emeritus professor of geophysical and climate hazards at University College London. As he makes clear in his uncompromising depiction of the coming climatic catastrophe, we have – for far too long – ignored explicit warnings that rising carbon emissions are dangerously heating the Earth. Now we are going to pay the price for our complacence in the form of storms, floods, droughts and heatwaves that will easily surpass current extremes.
The crucial point, he argues, is that there is now no chance of us avoiding a perilous, all-pervasive climate breakdown. We have passed the point of no return and can expect a future in which lethal heatwaves and temperatures in excess of 50C (120F) are common in the tropics; where summers at temperate latitudes will invariably be baking hot, and where our oceans are destined to become warm and acidic. “A child born in 2020 will face a far more hostile world that its grandparents did,” McGuire insists.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/jul/30/total-climate-meltdown-inevitable-heatwaves-global-catastrophe
You said If you think being carbon neutral by 2050 is the solution, you are the problem. No. China is the problem. Building evermore coal fired power stations
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