MEDIAWATCH: Wow, Andrea Vance says what TDB told you 12 months ago


Yes, that’s right. Economic Left is where voters are most likely to come together!

Like TDB has been pointing out over the last 3 years, Broadchurch policy over pure temple politics is the only way the Left win.

Not the alienating identity politics…

Values vs policy: How a new ‘luxury belief class’ is changing politics

Two of the biggest groups were Proud and Patriotic State and Common Sense Solidarity, and shared a desire for left-wing economic policy, such as renationalisation of industries and wealth redistribution. But they were fundamentally divided on immigration and multiculturalism. And that put them on different sides of the Brexit debate.

…an economic depression generated by geopolitical friction beyond our control is going to swamp us with enormous social damage and political carnage.

We need less alienating pronoun policing on the Left and more focus on universal services that provide material well being to people who are hurting right now and will be suffering in 6 months.

We need to remove the yoke of taxation from the 90% and reset it to the 10% richest.

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The minefield of social justice and its never ending pure temple deplatforming of everything that triggers it will only drive people further from the Left in an intense economic downturn because you can’t eat virtue signalling aesthetics.

We need material solutions and we need them now!

1: Feed every kid in NZ a free nutritious and healthy breakfast and lunch at every school using local product and school gardens with parents paid to come in and help. The slow incrementalism touted by favourite public sector for dragger apologist Max Rashbrooke isn’t good enough because the lower middle classes are feeling the same pinch thanks to mortgage rises and universal school lunches and breakfasts would help them as well. 

2: 50 000 State Homes for life built using the best environmental and social architecture standards using the public works act to seize land and immediately start building satellite towns using upgraded public transport hubs plus Renter Rights – (rent freezes, end accomodation payments, long term tenancy arrangements) 

3: Free public transport plus vast infrastructure upgrade for climate crisis.

4: 30% stake holder in a new Government backed supermarket operation run to provide lower food prices for kiwism better prices for supplies and better conditions for workers.

5: GST off fresh fruit and vegetables and essentials like tampons, toilet paper, condoms, oral health plus a sugar tax.

6: Free Dental services for everyone through public health.

7: Fair Pay Agreements that allow unionisation and real collective bargaining power for workers outside the tiny public service clique they currently cover.

8: Taxation focused on corporations and banks  like financial transaction taxand first $20 000.

9: Offer nurses, teachers and Drs free education and living allowances in return for bonded time in our health and eduction systems. 

10: Properly funded public broadcasting with TVNZ advert free and merged with RNZ alongside properly funded journalism through NZ on Air with more money for the Arts and Science. If you can’t have good public journalism, the right wing media will destroy these other 9 advances. 

The geopolitical shockwaves that are about to push NZ into a steep economic recession require the State to step in and run fundamental services for social cohesion by removing the tax yoke off workers and placing it on the corporations and wealthy.

We need to be kinder to individuals and crueller to corporations.

We urgently need Left wing political solutions, not more middle class virtue signals.

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  1. On this subject it was very interesting to read from Andrea Vance that Simon Bridges and astoundingly Jonathan Coleman of all people believed social spending in certain areas more important than Nationals broken record priority of tax cuts and accelerated lowering of government debt.

    I think Turner is right about meeting candidates or at least seeing them in person. Mike Moore was immensely likeable in person as he was in public. In another time he would have made a good PM. Andrew Little on the other hand was about as inspiring as a cardboard box with a manner of sober charted accountant at a cardboard box assembly conference. And that has proven accurate in actions as well.

    And good to see Turner’s view that social media is fading in it’s influence!

    Hard to say what is the left is but the gooey mushy Greens is more of an urban liberal middle class feminist gig and make Muldoon’s National look seriously left. Labour a degree left of National on the right side of the spectrum.

    We are screaming out for an alternative on the left. What there is, is deeply uninspiring!

    • Jonathan Coleman is the worst health minister in history. At a time Doctors and nurses were crying out for increasing in staffing numbers in 2014, Coleman and National looked the other way. We are where we are today because of Coleman and Nationals inaction, not Little and that has proven accurate. I find your comments about as boring as watching a rock grow.

      • Hey Bert.

        It’s from research from Andrea Vance. Coleman got overridden. If you find that boring I am sad for you and your weirdness and unquestioning love for Labour.

      • All this shows is that between N and L healthcare is equally unaffordable, inaccessible, a huge waste of taxpayers money for the service they don’t provide, with staff – nurses, doctors, janitors etc – underpaid, undervalued and rubbished by both Coleman and Little.
        If one would not know better, one could thing that neither party is here to provide a health system that works for Joe and Jane Kiwifruit.

    • “…….Jonathan Coleman of all people believed social spending in certain areas more important than Nationals broken record priority of tax cuts…….”
      Maybe he had one of those epiphany things. More likely he put his licked finger in the air to see which way the wind was blowing.
      Bloody shame he didn’t have another over his part in creating that bugger’s muddle that romps around gummint under the brand name MBIE

  2. How much extra would be made if we taxed every multi national company on actual profits made in NZ before any license fee or any such payment was made to their parent body overseas. Make Google pay tax on its advertising income before it creates a NZ loss by transferring the money to some tax haven.
    Would 50,000 state of art state houses cost less than $1m each especially if you have to create a new community around those houses?
    My German visitor was dumbstruck that dental care isn’t included in our health system. If you want to nationalize anything why not nationalize health and seize all private hospitals. How often are people told by a surgeon that the wait at public hospital will be months but they can do it privately tomorrow. End yhis extortion.

    • Maybe the fact that private healthcare is able to respond so quickly and with better care (in most cases) suggests you’ve got things back to front? What is it that assists the private sector to be so successful whilst the public / state continues to fail?

      • Yeti where do think those doctors in private come from? In areas such as oncology for example they all work in public, receive CME grants from the public system, and then make a killing in private. There may be surgeons who operate exclusively in private but not many oncologist.

        It’s laughable when people go on about “big bad pharma”. Even when unfunded medicine is not as expensive the private centres ( in Auckland at least) will charge you a fortune to administer it when it’s intravenous.

        Of course private responds well when patient volumes are lower and they charge a fortune for their services. You either need loads of cash, or expensive private insurance. You can make insurance cheaper by excluding loads of cover but then you better hope you insured for the right thing

      • yeti also maybe it’s because private hospitals ponce off the state sector for scanners etc that they don’t invest in themselves…whatcha think?

        • And the private sector take public money to help clear the backlog of elective surgeries.
          That’s what coward cabbage told me.

  3. Free this and free that is all fine and dandy but at the end of the day it’s the taxpayer footing the bill. Who, in a time of real struggle, is going to want to vote for anyone talking about raising taxes to pay for “free” things?

    That shit aint gonna fly

      • no, but it does not increase the taxes.
        There is a point to it. That money that pays for this shit needs to come from somewhere.
        N is quite open about the fact that they simply won’t provide all or most services. Get a job and survive peasant is their motto.
        Labour however has an issue with spending a whole lot of money, not achieving anything, this resulting in services being cut or cancelled for lack of money and saddling everyone who is not in their income bracket and thus can’t avoid paying taxes. But then they won’t advertise that.
        And the issue is not that they spend money, but that the money spend never seems to trickle anywhere near where the need is, but seems to fun a whole lot of PR types, reports, reviews, and the likes. I.e. the money goes to their ilk. Useless feeders all of them. Now you however must wait a few month before you can have that surgery that will make your life painfree again, or may even keep you alive.

  4. The Greens are beyond saving and Labour is getting there.
    To many people they are becoming more unpalatable than the Conservative Party.

  5. These policies were all found out and discarded by the 1980s.
    I’ve lived in countries with nationalised everything. They start with a flurry but eventually descend into disrepair and incompetence.
    I’ve lived in a country where most of the taxes were derived from the wealthiest 10%. That 10% departs, taking their money and skills with them. The tax base collapses and the ruin is the result.


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